I think only people who are residents in Amsterdam are allowed to make purchases from the coffee shops nowadays. They were trying to discourage drug tourists.Alexandra wrote:How, when? Did it work?Miguelito wrote:Even Amsterdam had to curb their laws to stop the wrong types of tourists.
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Big police fines for smoking joints?
That doesn't make much sense to me at all. That would just result in street pushers monopolizing tourist customers and Amsterdam being reminded of one of the strongest arguments for legality. I don't believe tourists have a hard time scoring grass in Amsterdam.
Could it have been neighbouring countries who pressured them into that because they thought it would limit imports?
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Could it have been neighbouring countries who pressured them into that because they thought it would limit imports?
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Thought it may have had something to do with the EU set up i.e. instead of member countries adopting Holland's stance on pot, the Dutch amended their laws. I recall that non Dutch people are not allowed to own/run cannabis cafes anymore.
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I should have said The Netherlands, and not specified Amsterdam, as cities around the country have been trying to address this for years. They started using a "weed pass" policy, which could either mean no foreigners, or only people from within a certain distance (say, maybe 150 km from the city). They also lowered the number of grams from 30 to 5 that people could buy; this had a terrible effect as it just caused people to go from one cafe to another, causing traffic and parking issues. They've also forced a number of coffee shop closures, which just causes those that remain open to be overcrowded.
I do not believe the EU can be blamed for their policies, which seem completely domestic and ebb and flow over time along with their general tolerance. Portugal, on the other hand, decriminalized the use of all drugs (even heroin) in 2001, and I believe it has been shown to be a successful initiative from a public health point of view.
I do not believe the EU can be blamed for their policies, which seem completely domestic and ebb and flow over time along with their general tolerance. Portugal, on the other hand, decriminalized the use of all drugs (even heroin) in 2001, and I believe it has been shown to be a successful initiative from a public health point of view.
Anyone 18 and over can buy weed in A'dam coffee shops.Harold wrote:I think only people who are residents in Amsterdam are allowed to make purchases from the coffee shops nowadays. They were trying to discourage drug tourists.Alexandra wrote:How, when? Did it work?Miguelito wrote:Even Amsterdam had to curb their laws to stop the wrong types of tourists.
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Miguelito wrote:I should have said The Netherlands, and not specified Amsterdam, as cities around the country have been trying to address this for years. They started using a "weed pass" policy, which could either mean no foreigners, or only people from within a certain distance (say, maybe 150 km from the city). They also lowered the number of grams from 30 to 5 that people could buy; this had a terrible effect as it just caused people to go from one cafe to another, causing traffic and parking issues. They've also forced a number of coffee shop closures, which just causes those that remain open to be overcrowded.
I do not believe the EU can be blamed for their policies, which seem completely domestic and ebb and flow over time along with their general tolerance. Portugal, on the other hand, decriminalized the use of all drugs (even heroin) in 2001, and I believe it has been shown to be a successful initiative from a public health point of view.
"After a very Dutch debate on the pros and cons of the plan, the government rewrote the law, leaving it up to each city to decide on the rules. Amsterdam scrapped it, while Maastricht, on the border with Germany and Belgium, left the ban in place and imposed fines on coffee shop owners defying the ban on pot sales to foreigners.
So, to recap: No cigarette smoking in public; yes to pot in small quantities, but not in Maastricht, and mushrooms are OK in very small quantities."
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They can't do that as it would break the freedom of movement EU laws.kinard wrote:Thought it may have had something to do with the EU set up i.e. instead of member countries adopting Holland's stance on pot, the Dutch amended their laws. I recall that non Dutch people are not allowed to own/run cannabis cafes anymore.
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No cigarette smoking in public indoor places, anywhere outside is fine except on railway platforms.Stramash wrote: "After a very Dutch debate on the pros and cons of the plan, the government rewrote the law, leaving it up to each city to decide on the rules. Amsterdam scrapped it, while Maastricht, on the border with Germany and Belgium, left the ban in place and imposed fines on coffee shop owners defying the ban on pot sales to foreigners.
So, to recap: No cigarette smoking in public; yes to pot in small quantities, but not in Maastricht, and mushrooms are OK in very small quantities."
Pot is fine but be prepared to have it confiscated when they stop you for any other violation.
Mushrooms have been illegal in Holland since 2008.
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Visser wrote:No cigarette smoking in public indoor places, anywhere outside is fine except on railway platforms.Stramash wrote: "After a very Dutch debate on the pros and cons of the plan, the government rewrote the law, leaving it up to each city to decide on the rules. Amsterdam scrapped it, while Maastricht, on the border with Germany and Belgium, left the ban in place and imposed fines on coffee shop owners defying the ban on pot sales to foreigners.
So, to recap: No cigarette smoking in public; yes to pot in small quantities, but not in Maastricht, and mushrooms are OK in very small quantities."
Pot is fine but be prepared to have it confiscated when they stop you for any other violation.
Mushrooms have been illegal in Holland since 2008.
Yeah, had forgotten the mushroom bans of 2008 (dried) and 2009 (fresh)
Truffles and peyote still available though
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I'll never understand why people want to smoke that shit.
Once, long time ago, when returning to Holland, to my surprise I saw a sign at Schiphol Airport that said people were allowed to bring in up to 3kg of whatever shit.
Never saw that sign again... lol.
Once, long time ago, when returning to Holland, to my surprise I saw a sign at Schiphol Airport that said people were allowed to bring in up to 3kg of whatever shit.
Never saw that sign again... lol.
It's gotten a lot more technical these days....
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More new strains than my lungs can handle too.ricecakes wrote:It's gotten a lot more technical these days....
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