Government eliminates fees? Marriage certification?
Government eliminates fees? Marriage certification?
Just wondering. I was reading something on ThePhnomPenhPost earlier about the government eliminating fees. I didn't think much about it because I thought it only applies to Khmers. But now my wife (well, ceremony wife, no papers) picked something up on facebook, it's a record of TV news, where they say it also applies to Barangs marrying Khmers.
So, yeah, I still doubt it somehow, because my experience is: Nothing is for free, especially not as Barang!
Does anybody know something about it? Can I get married officially?
And please don't tell me to ask my embassy. They are as helpful as my sleeping cat regarding things like that. Whenever I ask them something they don't explain anything but give me five papers in bureaucrazy language and tell me to figure it out myself.
So, yeah, I still doubt it somehow, because my experience is: Nothing is for free, especially not as Barang!
Does anybody know something about it? Can I get married officially?
And please don't tell me to ask my embassy. They are as helpful as my sleeping cat regarding things like that. Whenever I ask them something they don't explain anything but give me five papers in bureaucrazy language and tell me to figure it out myself.
Eliminating fees for things like ID cards and family books to win hearts and minds in the upcoming commune elections. Don't recall wedding fees being part of that, but I haven't read much.
If you're under 50 and earn more than 2,500/month, yes you can get legally married... Why not just pay the fees?
If you're under 50 and earn more than 2,500/month, yes you can get legally married... Why not just pay the fees?
Forgot to add the PhomPenhPost post. http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/g ... inate-fees
Why paying fees if there is another way?
Also I can't affort sh*t.
I am under fifty and earn less than half a grand a month.
Why paying fees if there is another way?
Also I can't affort sh*t.
I am under fifty and earn less than half a grand a month.
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The official fees for most of these papers is trivial anyway (other than late fees which can quickly add up).
Getting someone to actually do anything about it has likely just gone up in cost.
Getting someone to actually do anything about it has likely just gone up in cost.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
The official fees for the marriage license are less than $300, not that expensive.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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Too bad it costs a few grand in reality. Our friends, who just got married, are getting seriously jammed up on the paperwork.PSD_Kiwi wrote:The official fees for the marriage license are less than $300, not that expensive.
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Yes. I'm also not afraid of the official fees. But you need to gather documents, get them translated, travel probably several times to PP, stay there, eat there, ... I know a guy got married for less than a grand. In 2009. I know another couple planned to marry. Expected cost: Around a grand plus. In 2014. Now it's 2017.
But I just realize that's an answer to myself already. Even if the fees got dropped for a Barang marrying a Khmer I still have to translate documents and travel back and forth to PP.
But I just realize that's an answer to myself already. Even if the fees got dropped for a Barang marrying a Khmer I still have to translate documents and travel back and forth to PP.
And then you still have to scratch together the money to pay for a wedding ceremony an party for 400 guests.C-Mon wrote:Yes. I'm also not afraid of the official fees. But you need to gather documents, get them translated, travel probably several times to PP, stay there, eat there, ... I know a guy got married for less than a grand. In 2009. I know another couple planned to marry. Expected cost: Around a grand plus. In 2014. Now it's 2017.
But I just realize that's an answer to myself already. Even if the fees got dropped for a Barang marrying a Khmer I still have to translate documents and travel back and forth to PP.
Are your friends following the guide I posted on here? In the last 2 months I have been contacted and thanked by 2 couples who successfully received their marriage certificates, paying only the official fees, by following my guide.Felgerkarb wrote:Too bad it costs a few grand in reality. Our friends, who just got married, are getting seriously jammed up on the paperwork.PSD_Kiwi wrote:The official fees for the marriage license are less than $300, not that expensive.
Yes, obviously there are other costs involved (medical, translation and certifying of documents, travel and accom if you don't live in PP, etc.), but definitely shouldn't cost anywhere near even a thousand dollars.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
Fortunately I have done this. That's one reason why I can't afford much else anymore. It's been a year but starting at zero it's hard to earn cash in the KoW.epidemiks wrote:And then you still have to scratch together the money to pay for a wedding ceremony an party for 400 guests.
Can you provide a link to your guide? Sounds really interesting!PSD_Kiwi wrote:Are your friends following the guide I posted on here? In the last 2 months I have been contacted and thanked by 2 couples who successfully received their marriage certificates, paying only the official fees, by following my guide.Felgerkarb wrote:Too bad it costs a few grand in reality. Our friends, who just got married, are getting seriously jammed up on the paperwork.PSD_Kiwi wrote:The official fees for the marriage license are less than $300, not that expensive.
Yes, obviously there are other costs involved (medical, translation and certifying of documents, travel and accom if you don't live in PP, etc.), but definitely shouldn't cost anywhere near even a thousand dollars.
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I will have them take a look, maybe they messed something up along the way. /shrugPSD_Kiwi wrote:Are your friends following the guide I posted on here? In the last 2 months I have been contacted and thanked by 2 couples who successfully received their marriage certificates, paying only the official fees, by following my guide.Felgerkarb wrote:Too bad it costs a few grand in reality. Our friends, who just got married, are getting seriously jammed up on the paperwork.PSD_Kiwi wrote:The official fees for the marriage license are less than $300, not that expensive.
Yes, obviously there are other costs involved (medical, translation and certifying of documents, travel and accom if you don't live in PP, etc.), but definitely shouldn't cost anywhere near even a thousand dollars.
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
First of all, you will need to go to the MoFAIC in Phnom Penh and meet and speak to Mr Ung Vantha in the Legal & Consular Department, this man will give you the application forms and lists of required documents, he will not accept any money. Do not deal with anyone else, as they will all ask for ridiculous sums of money. Mr. Ung Vantha's (MoFA) phone number, 016608586.
You will need to present the following to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs;
1. "Application for foreigner to marry Khmer citizen" (provided by MoFAIC)
2. Certificate of non-impediment/single status/divorce certificate (if applicable)/ex-spouses death certificate (if applicable)
3. Criminal record check from your country of citizenship
4. Passport with valid E type (Ordinary MEEV) visa, minimum 6 months validity
5. Letter of employment/proof of salary minimum $2500USD p/m (Male only). Work permit/work book/business license if employed in Cambodia.
6. Letter from your Embassy - permission/consent to marry
7. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
8. 2x passport photos
NOTE: Foreign males must be under 50 years old to legally marry a Cambodian citizen in Cambodia.
All above documents must be notarised/certified from your nearest Embassy except 1,6 and 7.
Khmer partner will need to present;
1. "Certificate of celibacy, widowhood, divorce" (single status) from Sangkat
2. National ID card
3. Birth Certificate
4. Family Book and/or Carnet de Residence
5. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
6. 2x passport photos
Note: The blood tests are for HIV, Hepatitis, and a few other diseases, chest x-ray is for TB. Cost from Calmette for the blood tests, x-ray and medical certificate is $120 per couple ($60 each). You will need to take your passport/national ID card, as well as 1x passport photo per person.
Once the MoFA processes the documents which takes about 1-2 weeks, you will be issued a letter which you must submit with all of your documents to the Ministry of Interior. You will both be interviewed by someone in the MoI, and if they are satisfied it will take approximately another 2+ months for them to issue an authorisation to marry letter, which you will then need to submit to your partners Sangkat, who will then issue you with your marriage certificate.
MoFAIC:
I'm not great at explaining directions, but I hope this helps...
When you go to the MoFA, enter the compound via the side entrance, do not go to the large main entrance on the riverside. There is a guard hut where you and your partner will have to show ID, and they will give you a visitors pass. Walk straight ahead to the large building straight ahead and to the right, and enter via the first side entrance.
As you enter, immediately on your left you should see a sign for e-visa on your right hand side, continue walking straight down the corridor. The 3rd or 4th door on the right hand side is Vanthas office. As you look at his office door, there should be a small alcove with a Buddhist statue to the left of his door, this is how you will know which office is his. Remember that this is a Cambodian Ministry, and they keep strange working hours...I think they take lunch from about 1100 - 1400.
MOI:
Do not go to the Main MoI compound. You need to go to an office called “National Committee to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children” (S.T.S.L.S), which is at the General dept of Identification building at this location…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gen ... 04.9550942
Take all of your completed documentation and letter from the MoFAIC with you and try to arrive early (by 0900hrs at the latest). There all of your documentation will be checked, and if anything is not in order they will inform you of what you need to fix.
Once everything is in order, you will pay the official $200 fee, which you will receive a receipt for, and then be interviewed by several people, mostly regarding things like how you met your partner, how long you’ve been together, have you travelled together on holiday, how long have you lived/been travelling to Cambodia, what is your job, family members names and contact details, what are your plans, do you plan to take her overseas and exploit her, etc…Its not as daunting as you may think. Your partner will be near you the entire time, so if there any language barriers, ask her to translate for you.
Once everything is in order, it can take anywhere up to 4 months before you receive the letter of permission to marry from the MoI, which you then take to your partner's Sangkat in order to be issued your official marriage certificate. There is no requirement for a wedding ceremony in order to be issued a marriage certificate.
For foreigners marrying a Cambodian citizen, the only official fees payable are;
- $200 fee paid to the 'National Committe to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children (S.T.S.L.S)' , which is a department of the MoI. The fee covers admin, interviews and background check costs. An official receipt is issued.
- $20 fee paid to the Sangkat which issues the official Marriage Certificate. An official receipt is issued.
(Note: The interviewers at the MoI expect a small "donation" each, about $5 each covers it...probably a good idea to just pay this to ensure your application is approved)
Many people no doubt end up dealing with the wrong people and/or fixers and end up getting fleeced purely because the information on the whole process is not readily available and can be confusing.
You will need to present the following to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs;
1. "Application for foreigner to marry Khmer citizen" (provided by MoFAIC)
2. Certificate of non-impediment/single status/divorce certificate (if applicable)/ex-spouses death certificate (if applicable)
3. Criminal record check from your country of citizenship
4. Passport with valid E type (Ordinary MEEV) visa, minimum 6 months validity
5. Letter of employment/proof of salary minimum $2500USD p/m (Male only). Work permit/work book/business license if employed in Cambodia.
6. Letter from your Embassy - permission/consent to marry
7. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
8. 2x passport photos
NOTE: Foreign males must be under 50 years old to legally marry a Cambodian citizen in Cambodia.
All above documents must be notarised/certified from your nearest Embassy except 1,6 and 7.
Khmer partner will need to present;
1. "Certificate of celibacy, widowhood, divorce" (single status) from Sangkat
2. National ID card
3. Birth Certificate
4. Family Book and/or Carnet de Residence
5. Pre-nuptial Medical certificate from Calmette Hospital (no older than 3 months)
6. 2x passport photos
Note: The blood tests are for HIV, Hepatitis, and a few other diseases, chest x-ray is for TB. Cost from Calmette for the blood tests, x-ray and medical certificate is $120 per couple ($60 each). You will need to take your passport/national ID card, as well as 1x passport photo per person.
Once the MoFA processes the documents which takes about 1-2 weeks, you will be issued a letter which you must submit with all of your documents to the Ministry of Interior. You will both be interviewed by someone in the MoI, and if they are satisfied it will take approximately another 2+ months for them to issue an authorisation to marry letter, which you will then need to submit to your partners Sangkat, who will then issue you with your marriage certificate.
MoFAIC:
I'm not great at explaining directions, but I hope this helps...
When you go to the MoFA, enter the compound via the side entrance, do not go to the large main entrance on the riverside. There is a guard hut where you and your partner will have to show ID, and they will give you a visitors pass. Walk straight ahead to the large building straight ahead and to the right, and enter via the first side entrance.
As you enter, immediately on your left you should see a sign for e-visa on your right hand side, continue walking straight down the corridor. The 3rd or 4th door on the right hand side is Vanthas office. As you look at his office door, there should be a small alcove with a Buddhist statue to the left of his door, this is how you will know which office is his. Remember that this is a Cambodian Ministry, and they keep strange working hours...I think they take lunch from about 1100 - 1400.
MOI:
Do not go to the Main MoI compound. You need to go to an office called “National Committee to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children” (S.T.S.L.S), which is at the General dept of Identification building at this location…
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gen ... 04.9550942
Take all of your completed documentation and letter from the MoFAIC with you and try to arrive early (by 0900hrs at the latest). There all of your documentation will be checked, and if anything is not in order they will inform you of what you need to fix.
Once everything is in order, you will pay the official $200 fee, which you will receive a receipt for, and then be interviewed by several people, mostly regarding things like how you met your partner, how long you’ve been together, have you travelled together on holiday, how long have you lived/been travelling to Cambodia, what is your job, family members names and contact details, what are your plans, do you plan to take her overseas and exploit her, etc…Its not as daunting as you may think. Your partner will be near you the entire time, so if there any language barriers, ask her to translate for you.
Once everything is in order, it can take anywhere up to 4 months before you receive the letter of permission to marry from the MoI, which you then take to your partner's Sangkat in order to be issued your official marriage certificate. There is no requirement for a wedding ceremony in order to be issued a marriage certificate.
For foreigners marrying a Cambodian citizen, the only official fees payable are;
- $200 fee paid to the 'National Committe to Lead the Suppression of Human Trafficking, Smuggling, Labour Exploitation and Sexual Exploitation in Woman and Children (S.T.S.L.S)' , which is a department of the MoI. The fee covers admin, interviews and background check costs. An official receipt is issued.
- $20 fee paid to the Sangkat which issues the official Marriage Certificate. An official receipt is issued.
(Note: The interviewers at the MoI expect a small "donation" each, about $5 each covers it...probably a good idea to just pay this to ensure your application is approved)
Many people no doubt end up dealing with the wrong people and/or fixers and end up getting fleeced purely because the information on the whole process is not readily available and can be confusing.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
There's a bunch of threads about marriage, here's just a few, a search will give you more to read.
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... n+Cambodia
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... +Singapore
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... ia#p798961
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... n+Cambodia
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... +Singapore
http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... ia#p798961
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
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Hi PSD_Kiwi
Thanks for your help I have a couple of questions I was hoping you could help me with. I am a British woman wanting to marry my Khmer Boyfriend in Cambodia.
1. Do you have to be in Cambodia for the full duration of the decision making process?
2. If we decide to get married in the UK can we still get the certificate of no impediment in the local Sangkat?
Thanks for all your help it’s certainly cleared up the process.
Jo
Thanks for your help I have a couple of questions I was hoping you could help me with. I am a British woman wanting to marry my Khmer Boyfriend in Cambodia.
1. Do you have to be in Cambodia for the full duration of the decision making process?
2. If we decide to get married in the UK can we still get the certificate of no impediment in the local Sangkat?
Thanks for all your help it’s certainly cleared up the process.
Jo
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