You forgot blacks. Junkies, queers and blacks. Everyone knows that.Gin&Tonic wrote:Show that I am wrong
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HIV among Cambodian Sex workers article
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You can still get all of that covering up. But best to do so to avoid unwanted carry over. I was just remarking about HIV, not unprotected sex in general.scobienz wrote:Does this inability to transfer HIV from hooker to hapless punter apply also to herpes, syphillis, genital wards, hepatitis, gonorrhea and other delights?
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
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The subject is HIV.scobienz wrote:Does this inability to transfer HIV from hooker to hapless punter apply also to herpes, syphillis, genital wards, hepatitis, gonorrhea and other delights?
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Gin&Tonic wrote:The subject is HIV.scobienz wrote:Does this inability to transfer HIV from hooker to hapless punter apply also to herpes, syphillis, genital wards, hepatitis, gonorrhea and other delights?
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The subject is whatever random direction random posts take a thread.
When you post that you have had years of unprotected sex with SEA hookers, you can't really complain when someone brings up the possibility that you are likely carrying all sorts of other diseases as a result, whether or not you know it yet.
errrr, at what stage do you ask the hooker if she is on anti-retrovirals... before or after negotiating her rate?Felgerkarb wrote:I'm in this camp as well.LaudJohn wrote:I hate to say it
.. but I agree with G&T.
Very hard for a circumised male with no open wounds or STD to get HIV from an infected female. But it is still possible so covering up is the safest option.
Also I would sooner have unprotected sex with an HIV woman taking the anti-retrovirals than unprotected sex with a working girl who has not been tested.
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The Aids Healthcare Foundation (AHF) in conjunction with the MOH are doing quite a bit.jm91 wrote: The health care system in Cambodia is in such bad shape that contracting HIV in Cambodia will probably lead to an early death.
They operate 35 Pre-ART/ART clinics among a total of 65 clinics in country. Those 35 clinics are located in 16 provinces among the total 25 provinces in Cambodia.
AHF Cambodia currently serves 32, 256 People (Jan 2017) Living with HIV, which represent more than 50% of the total number of People Living with HIV countrywide.
AHF Cambodia works in partnership with the Ministry of Health through the National Center for HIV/AIDS, Dermatology and STDs (NCHADS), the Ministry of defense through the National Military Hospital and the Ministry Interior for prisoners.
AHF clinics provide free ARVs and care to all patients and free OI drugs, and some transportation allowance for patients with poor economic situation.
AHF Cambodia is reinforcing the capacity of physicians and counselors by conducting regular clinical case discussion calls and meeting at the clinic level.
AHF Cambodia provides free HIV testing, and HIV education, and distributes condoms for free at the clinics and during Campaign and events.
Health Stats
• Population: 15.4 million
• HIV prevalence: 0.6% (15-49 years old)
• Estimated number of PLHIV in 2016: 71,561
• Total number of PLHIV receiving ART: 55,648 by Q2 of 2016.
• Patients in AHF supported clinics:32,662 by Feb 2017.
• Patients receiving ART in AHF supported clinics: 32,070 by Feb 2017.
https://www.aidshealth.org/#/archives/countries/kh
Here's an option: don't be a depraved, amoral reprobate. That's probably asking too much from this crowd though…
Your snotty pronouncements notwithstanding, people have the right to fuck as they choose. You know like eating and sunbathing. They would be wise to take appropriate precautions in any of those activities and can be rightfully criticized for not doing so.
I know a number of bar girls that are far from Downtrodden victimized captives. They are people who has made the best choice 4 making a living and beyond that for being in an environment more interesting and enjoyable then other Alternatives available to them. They are far from lacking in a social support system as they usually have girls from their own village working with them and Providing a kind of family environment. Of course families have their problems and like any job it's not free of conflict. Most are pretty damn careful about the condom matter and about their personal safety. It is very rare, almost unknown comma 4 bar girls to have been seriously assaulted or mistreated by By Western Customers. There are ngos that provide free or low cost health Check 2 girls, some sending Representatives into the bars and Engaging well with the girls.
Many girls come from overcrowded rice Farms that are incapable of supporting anything like the number of people that are in their generation. Affection and support or simply not equally distributed in these families, or for that matter in any families and circumstances compel the entirely reasonable decision to leave. A large number of girls work in garment factories and guys work in construction. the girls that work in bars simply do better. Many
have worked in factories And are Simply tired of doing so and vow they never will again.
Your snotty pronouncements notwithstanding, people have the right to fuck as they choose. You know like eating and sunbathing. They would be wise to take appropriate precautions in any of those activities and can be rightfully criticized for not doing so.
I know a number of bar girls that are far from Downtrodden victimized captives. They are people who has made the best choice 4 making a living and beyond that for being in an environment more interesting and enjoyable then other Alternatives available to them. They are far from lacking in a social support system as they usually have girls from their own village working with them and Providing a kind of family environment. Of course families have their problems and like any job it's not free of conflict. Most are pretty damn careful about the condom matter and about their personal safety. It is very rare, almost unknown comma 4 bar girls to have been seriously assaulted or mistreated by By Western Customers. There are ngos that provide free or low cost health Check 2 girls, some sending Representatives into the bars and Engaging well with the girls.
Many girls come from overcrowded rice Farms that are incapable of supporting anything like the number of people that are in their generation. Affection and support or simply not equally distributed in these families, or for that matter in any families and circumstances compel the entirely reasonable decision to leave. A large number of girls work in garment factories and guys work in construction. the girls that work in bars simply do better. Many
have worked in factories And are Simply tired of doing so and vow they never will again.
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Many girls come from overcrowded rice Farms that are incapable of supporting anything like the number of people that are in their generation. Affection and support or simply not equally distributed in these families, or for that matter in any families and circumstances compel the entirely reasonable decision to leave. A large number of girls work in garment factories and guys work in construction. the girls that work in bars simply do better. Many
have worked in factories And are Simply tired of doing so and vow they never will again.
Yep, talking with many Khmers including working girls, this is my experience, especially the latter point.
It is part of the culture, the modern realistic culture, not the fantasy traditional culture that in reality exists no more.
Given that I am in Cambodia for the culture, I will say that I have witnessed the shift in cultural norms towards the situation as described above over the past 16 years.
In reality, unless you experienced Cambodian/Khmer culture pre the formation of k440 (mid 2003) you are IMHO unqualified to comment.
Note to self: Must be nice to morons.
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I'm still inclined to think only a damaged bar girl could enjoy having a different cock every night.
"I don't care what the people are thinking, i ain't drunk i'm just drinking"
Not true. There's ricecakes as well.spitthedog wrote:I'm still inclined to think only a damaged bar girl could enjoy having a different cock every night.
'I'm still inclined to think only a damaged bar girl could enjoy having a different cock every night.'
That's much too simplistic a view of the bar girl environment. First, a good number of the girls maybe 20% do not go out for sex with customers. They are there only as hostesses. they make money from a salary and chat with the customers and try to get them to buy lady drinks for them for which they get a lady drink ticket worth a little bit less than half the price of the drink. Second the girls who are available to go out of the bar with customers do not succeed in getting a customer every night. the ratio of girls to customers makes that impossible Of course those girls also get Commission on lady drinks too.
More on all this later.
That's much too simplistic a view of the bar girl environment. First, a good number of the girls maybe 20% do not go out for sex with customers. They are there only as hostesses. they make money from a salary and chat with the customers and try to get them to buy lady drinks for them for which they get a lady drink ticket worth a little bit less than half the price of the drink. Second the girls who are available to go out of the bar with customers do not succeed in getting a customer every night. the ratio of girls to customers makes that impossible Of course those girls also get Commission on lady drinks too.
More on all this later.
I had HIV 2 in England.
It meant I could drive a lorry with a 10 ton axle weight.
Or was that HGV2, I forget now...
I'm sure I didn't get it off some bird in a bar like.
It meant I could drive a lorry with a 10 ton axle weight.
Or was that HGV2, I forget now...
I'm sure I didn't get it off some bird in a bar like.
It depends on your definition of hard.LaudJohn wrote:I hate to say it
.. but I agree with G&T.
Very hard for a circumised male with no open wounds or STD to get HIV from an infected female. But it is still possible so covering up is the safest option.
Also I would sooner have unprotected sex with an HIV woman taking the anti-retrovirals than unprotected sex with a working girl who has not been tested.
I was an HIV counselor for years. Some people contract HIV after 1 exposure and some do no not contract HIV after multiple exposures. However, and this is from memory so I could be off a bit:
Being circumcised does reduce the risk of HIV transmission from female to male vaginal sex - the risk overall for female to male HIV transmission for vaginal sex is about 1 in 500 raw fuck session - no protection (I am more than willing to admit I am off if someone can provide a good reference.). On average if a group of men fuck HIV infected women ON AVERAGE there will be an HIV infection after about 500 vaginal fuck sessions. OK well now you look at Cambodia, not all the women are HIV positive, not all men fuck raw, some men are circumcised some are not, etc..Some of the HIV infected women might be on retrovirals which reduced the transmission rates...etc..
How you define hard to get..I don't know..but if I was a heterosexual male who was patronizing the bar girls and knew that HIV was prevalent in that population..I would not dismiss the risk of contracting a fatal and nasty way to die disease..as being hard to contract.
But hey I am a gay man who lived through the aids epidemic when most of my friends died nasty fucked up deaths...Don't let me put a dark cloud on your night time activities. LOL..a bit of dark humor here.
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What's never made sense to me is the strikingly low risk of infection:LaudJohn wrote:I hate to say it
.. but I agree with G&T.
Very hard for a circumised male with no open wounds or STD to get HIV from an infected female. But it is still possible so covering up is the safest option.
Also I would sooner have unprotected sex with an HIV woman taking the anti-retrovirals than unprotected sex with a working girl who has not been tested.
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/ ... viors.html
.... compared to stats that 20% of working girls are infected and the strong anecdotal evidence for a good percentage of bargirls succumbing to AIDS. I don't have any kind of angle I''m pushing here and I'm too lazy to do the math, but WTF?
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