American Mark Alan Vandewater (from Florida!) arrested for extortion
If you are going to get involved in a pending criminal case, you might want to think twice about creating an imgur account using your real name. That's a classic dumb fuck move.
- bipolar bear
- I have some social problems
- Reactions: 24
- Posts: 587
- Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:27 pm
It's a bit of a classic.Marmite wrote:If you are going to get involved in a pending criminal case, you might want to think twice about creating an imgur account using your real name. That's a classic dumb fuck move.
Here are pictures of a man associating with a brass. The obvious question is, what the fuck did it have to do with Vandewater whether somebody was fucking somebody else? She wasn't being raped, was she? He hadn't roofied her up or hypnotised her, had he? She doesn't look remotely unwilling in any image.JohnSmith wrote:Here are pictures of Martin Desautels, from DFDL at "The Office" on street 118. These pictures were provided to Vandewater by the owners of The Office, Thida and Terry.Vandewater wanted to give these images to Martin Desautel's wife in Vietnam, in order for Desautels to stop his sexual involvement with Lyna (Thida's niece). Martin Desautels got Vandewater arrested for extorsion when Vandewater sent him a warning letter. If this had been an extortion racket, Desautels would have never found Vandewater, but the latter was not hiding since what he was doing was not illegal. Thida also borrowed 30k off Vandewater to redo the front of The Office, suggesting Vandewater is not in need for money and now Thida and Terry don't have to pay the debt. Vandewater is still being held at PJ prison fro a crime he did not commit.
And, by your own words, he is guilty of blackmail
It might not be blackmail for the purposes of extortion - i.e. dollars - but it absolutely is blackmail for the purposes of coercion and the offence is the same, it is only the desired outcome of the blackmail that differs.Vandewater wanted to give these images to Martin Desautel's wife in Vietnam, in order for Desautels to stop his sexual involvement with Lyna (Thida's niece)...Vandewater sent him a warning letter.
He sounds like he has been mugged off royally, not only into handing over $30k to bar whores in the first place but also by allowing himself to get involved in a really, really stupid blackmail. I wonder whose idea the scheme was? If it was the good ladies', he has been tucked up good and proper, as they say.
Without the financial element it is a civil case, not a criminal one. In a civil case the plaintiff could sue for damages, and that is about the extent of it. I am not defending Vandewater, I personally consider his actions a shit move, but if we went around locking up people for the odd shit move as opposed to crimes, the streets would be empty. The story I am trying to draw attention to though, is not whether Vandewater is, or is not a shitbag, but to the fact that Martin Desautels, the managing partner for DFDL fabricated evidence and is keeping a non criminal in prison over a civil matter.
That's quite a serious accusation. If you're going to make that accusation you better be damn sure of your case especially as you have revealed your true identity so casually. You might want to lawyer up. I would be expecting to hear from plaintiff lawyers soon.
Edit to add: ahhhh. You live in Shitsville. That explains your carelessness. You can't legislate for stupidity.
Edit to add: ahhhh. You live in Shitsville. That explains your carelessness. You can't legislate for stupidity.
- bipolar bear
- I have some social problems
- Reactions: 24
- Posts: 587
- Joined: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:27 pm
I couldn't give a fuck about the plight of Vandewater, he sounds like a right cunt. He got himself into this shit by pulling the tigers tail.JohnSmith wrote:Without the financial element it is a civil case, not a criminal one. In a civil case the plaintiff could sue for damages, and that is about the extent of it. I am not defending Vandewater, I personally consider his actions a shit move, but if we went around locking up people for the odd shit move as opposed to crimes, the streets would be empty. The story I am trying to draw attention to though, is not whether Vandewater is, or is not a shitbag, but to the fact that Martin Desautels, the managing partner for DFDL fabricated evidence and is keeping a non criminal in prison over a civil matter.
I don't give a fuck about the lawyer either, he's probably a sleazy, shitbag cunt. He's a lawyer, so it's a given. I don't know if he has fabricated anything or not but it wouldn't surprise me if he decided to defend himself robustly against a blackmailer who was threatening to leverage evidence of a peccadillo and/or demanding money.
What are you going to say? The defence against the blackmail was more immoral or illegal than the actual blackmail itself? That's what you seem to be "trying to draw attention to". That won't be squeezing my sympathy gland.
- Playboy
- 20,000 Posts; I need professional help !
- Reactions: 288
- Posts: 24827
- Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:30 pm
- Location: Hotel K: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
- Contact:
When you Google that particular, amusing little phrase, the first thing that comes up is something about squeezing puppies anal glands ...bipolar bear wrote: ... That won't be squeezing my sympathy gland.
Lawyers, Blackmailers, and the Anal Glands of Puppies ... the Internet is an even scarier place than Cambodia
"We, the sons of John Company, have arrived"
-
- Making Khmer girls cry since 2003
- Reactions: 130
- Posts: 21358
- Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:15 pm
"Your honor, my client couldn't have committed the crime, because he was found by the police."JohnSmith wrote: If this had been an extortion racket, Desautels would have never found Vandewater, but the latter was not hiding since what he was doing was not illegal.
"Your honor, my client could not have committed this crime, because he had money."Thida also borrowed 30k off Vandewater to redo the front of The Office, suggesting Vandewater is not in need for money and now Thida and Terry don't have to pay the debt.
These are bad arguments, man.
Follow my lame Twitter feed: @gavin_mac
Vandewater was attempting to get this girl "Lyna" out of a hard life of prostitution at "the office" bar. The owner of said bar "Thida", who also happens to be Lyna's aunty must have seen Vandewater as an easy target so they both sold him this story of desperate poverty and attempting to escape this dark industry. For a period of about 3 months, Vandewater was giving Lyna roughly 10000 USD a month, in an attempt to sort out her family situation. On top of that, he lent Thida 30000 USD to do up the bar. It is important to state at this point that at no time did Vandewater have sex or even a romantic relationship with any of the people involved.
Vandewater started to notice a regular client that Lyna had been involved with for over a year by the name of Martin Desautels, managing partner at DFDL. She had managed to keep this discreet for the prior three months, as Martin Desautels only works in the PP office five days a month, and during those three months Vandewater had been away for periods and not coincided with him.
The explanation from Thida and Lyna was that this was a very powerful customer, not to be messed with, and that although the didn't like him there was nothing that could be done. Vandewater hired a Vietnamese detective to find out if Martin had a wife in Saigon. The detective came back with an affirmative and her exact address, where she lives with her two children, and where Martin spends most of the month. Vandewater was offered images from the bars cctv to pressure Martin into cutting all ties with the bar. This is exactly what he did, with an anonymous letter, telling him to cut all ties with Lyna, or he would inform the wife, and also his company, DFDL.
Martin, realizing he did not have enough to go to the police, using the foundations that had already been laid by Vandewater, turned it into a criminal extortion case by switching the demand to a fee of 10000 USD, aided by Thida and Lyna who knew Vandewater's address, and would, among other things, not have to ever return the 30000 USD they had borrowed from him.
Attached is a link of the cctv images provided by Terry and Lyna from The Office showing Desautels and Lyna. At the bottom of the page you will also find evidence of the money transfer Vandewater made to Thida.
Vandewater started to notice a regular client that Lyna had been involved with for over a year by the name of Martin Desautels, managing partner at DFDL. She had managed to keep this discreet for the prior three months, as Martin Desautels only works in the PP office five days a month, and during those three months Vandewater had been away for periods and not coincided with him.
The explanation from Thida and Lyna was that this was a very powerful customer, not to be messed with, and that although the didn't like him there was nothing that could be done. Vandewater hired a Vietnamese detective to find out if Martin had a wife in Saigon. The detective came back with an affirmative and her exact address, where she lives with her two children, and where Martin spends most of the month. Vandewater was offered images from the bars cctv to pressure Martin into cutting all ties with the bar. This is exactly what he did, with an anonymous letter, telling him to cut all ties with Lyna, or he would inform the wife, and also his company, DFDL.
Martin, realizing he did not have enough to go to the police, using the foundations that had already been laid by Vandewater, turned it into a criminal extortion case by switching the demand to a fee of 10000 USD, aided by Thida and Lyna who knew Vandewater's address, and would, among other things, not have to ever return the 30000 USD they had borrowed from him.
Attached is a link of the cctv images provided by Terry and Lyna from The Office showing Desautels and Lyna. At the bottom of the page you will also find evidence of the money transfer Vandewater made to Thida.
-
- Making Khmer girls cry since 2003
- Reactions: 130
- Posts: 21358
- Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:15 pm
What is your factual basis for saying that Desautels fabricated the claim of a $10,000 demand? How did he fabricate that? Did he forge Vandewater's handwriting on a letter demanding the money? Did he clone Vandewater's phone and send himself a text? Tell me physically how he fabricated the evidence.JohnSmith wrote:Vandewater was attempting to get this girl "Lyna" out of a hard life of prostitution at "the office" bar. The owner of said bar "Thida", who also happens to be Lyna's aunty must have seen Vandewater as an easy target so they both sold him this story of desperate poverty and attempting to escape this dark industry. For a period of about 3 months, Vandewater was giving Lyna roughly 10000 USD a month, in an attempt to sort out her family situation. On top of that, he lent Thida 30000 USD to do up the bar. It is important to state at this point that at no time did Vandewater have sex or even a romantic relationship with any of the people involved.
Vandewater started to notice a regular client that Lyna had been involved with for over a year by the name of Martin Desautels, managing partner at DFDL. She had managed to keep this discreet for the prior three months, as Martin Desautels only works in the PP office five days a month, and during those three months Vandewater had been away for periods and not coincided with him.
The explanation from Thida and Lyna was that this was a very powerful customer, not to be messed with, and that although the didn't like him there was nothing that could be done. Vandewater hired a Vietnamese detective to find out if Martin had a wife in Saigon. The detective came back with an affirmative and her exact address, where she lives with her two children, and where Martin spends most of the month. Vandewater was offered images from the bars cctv to pressure Martin into cutting all ties with the bar. This is exactly what he did, with an anonymous letter, telling him to cut all ties with Lyna, or he would inform the wife, and also his company, DFDL.
Martin, realizing he did not have enough to go to the police, using the foundations that had already been laid by Vandewater, turned it into a criminal extortion case by switching the demand to a fee of 10000 USD, aided by Thida and Lyna who knew Vandewater's address, and would, among other things, not have to ever return the 30000 USD they had borrowed from him.
Attached is a link of the cctv images provided by Terry and Lyna from The Office showing Desautels and Lyna. At the bottom of the page you will also find evidence of the money transfer Vandewater made to Thida.
How do you now Desautel's not telling the truth and that Vandewater isn't lying and claiming "frame up" to try to save himself from a lengthy prison term?
Did Desautels confess to you that he framed Vandewater?
Or is this just "Well, I'm friends with Vandewater and I believe him when he says he never sent a financial demand."
Last edited by gavinmac on Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
Follow my lame Twitter feed: @gavin_mac
John Smith, you have released the beast.
Let the games begin.
Let the games begin.
"That was probably Londo...He is always shitty." - Marvin
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
-
Tampa, Florida lawyer Rugh James Cline arrested in Cambodia on child sex charge
by gavinmac » Wed May 22, 2019 7:25 am » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 368 Replies
- 91683 Views
-
Last post by nerdlinger
Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:54 pm
-
-
-
Top Bloke Kiwi benefits fraudster Mark Millin arrested for road rage assault in Siem Reap
by gavinmac » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:54 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 6 Replies
- 3549 Views
-
Last post by OffRoader
Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:13 am
-
-
-
Karl Von Boenninghausen, American fugitive from California child sex crime charges, arrested in Phnom Penh
by gavinmac » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:59 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 21 Replies
- 16864 Views
-
Last post by Jep
Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:59 am
-
-
-
American Shaun Earl Robinson, owner of Landing Zone Hotel in Siem Reap, arrested for kiddie sex stuff
by gavinmac » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:09 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 39 Replies
- 12160 Views
-
Last post by icular
Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:43 pm
-
-
-
Widespread Immigration extortion at airport SR
by chkai chgout » Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:03 pm » in Cambodia Speakeasy - 5 Replies
- 1744 Views
-
Last post by Hanno
Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:46 pm
-