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Would the US State Department cover up a bar fight involving an embassy staffer at Golden Sorya Mall?

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Post by Edwardo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:21 pm

Felgerkarb?
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Post by Playboy » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:22 pm

Obviously The Felgerkarb was not involved, the body count was too low

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Post by Edwardo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:33 pm

They should rename it the ROIA, the Redaction of Information Act.
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Post by QED » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:43 pm

Miguelito wrote:
QED wrote:I do not think it fair to describe GSM as a brothel.
Sex does not take place on the premises, as far as I know.
Merriam Webster defines a brothel as "a building in which prostitutes are available", while Oxford defines it as "a house where men can visit prostitutes".

I think the usage of brothel is apt.
American English. But I guess that's fair enough in this case. Except does GSM qualify as a building? I would suggest the open air bit does not so you fall on that point. The OED is using the word "visit" in a delicate way. Maybe you need to be English to get the point. Even MW may well be acting similarly when they say "are available ". You need to be American to answer that point.

Also, it seems a very broad definition if you extend the meaning of the word to any building where prostitutes are available to meet and take elsewhere. I think the world needs a specific word that describes a place where sex is available on the premises as opposed to a pick-up joint.
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Post by mateo222 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:47 pm

GSM would be off-limits to U.S. Embassy personnel?
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Post by Felgerkarb » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:06 pm

Playboy wrote:Obviously The Felgerkarb was not involved, the body count was too low

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Post by Playboy » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:08 pm

Felgerkarb wrote:
Playboy wrote:Obviously The Felgerkarb was not involved, the body count was too low

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The 'unexplained disappearance count' ??

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Post by Canadaman » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:25 am

PJC wrote:Minor point, but I read the Bayon Pearnik article as saying the fight was in a bar opposite GSM, not in GSM itself.
Correct,i was in GSM on that night,and indeed the incident did take place at a bar across from GSM.

Although when the Sheriff and his hound turned up,they did take a walk/sniff through the mall.The guy that was chased out of the bar,was a non caucasian.
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Post by Garry Crabtree » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:22 am

^ No wonder it was redacted.
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Post by bipolar bear » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:39 am

QED wrote:
Miguelito wrote:
QED wrote:I do not think it fair to describe GSM as a brothel.
Sex does not take place on the premises, as far as I know.
Merriam Webster defines a brothel as "a building in which prostitutes are available", while Oxford defines it as "a house where men can visit prostitutes".

I think the usage of brothel is apt.
American English. But I guess that's fair enough in this case. Except does GSM qualify as a building? I would suggest the open air bit does not so you fall on that point. The OED is using the word "visit" in a delicate way. Maybe you need to be English to get the point. Even MW may well be acting similarly when they say "are available ". You need to be American to answer that point.

Also, it seems a very broad definition if you extend the meaning of the word to any building where prostitutes are available to meet and take elsewhere. I think the world needs a specific word that describes a place where sex is available on the premises as opposed to a pick-up joint.
I've always understood the definition of a brothel to be the same, in principle, as a pub and their on-licence. Consumption is on the premises, at the point of sale, in contrast to an off licence where the consumption takes place other than where procured. In that sense, GSM is an off-licence, is it not?

I'll not mention the now almost archaic term "outdoor" as part of the analogy because most probably won't have a clue what the fuck I'm talking about. :lol:
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Post by PenhMan » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:33 am

mateo222 wrote:GSM would be off-limits to U.S. Embassy personnel?
^^^This. I think that any embassy would issue certain "guidelines" discouraging your visitations to certain establishments. Even if they didn't, a staffer would be well advised not to be found at certain establishments if you want to maintain decorum -- and your job.
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Post by gavinmac » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:37 am

PenhMan wrote:
mateo222 wrote:GSM would be off-limits to U.S. Embassy personnel?
^^^This. I think that any embassy would issue certain "guidelines" discouraging your visitations to certain establishments. Even if they didn't, a staffer would be well advised not to be found at certain establishments if you want to maintain decorum -- and your job.

There was a 2012 memo banning them from happy pizza places and advising them not to "frequent" places of prostitution. See the link in this discussion:

http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... 65#p815664
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Post by gavinmac » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:41 pm

Canadaman wrote:
Although when the Sheriff and his hound turned up,they did take a walk/sniff through the mall.The guy that was chased out of the bar,was a non caucasian.
I have reason to believe his name is Elmore. Because the clowns at the State Department sent me another letter updating me on the status of several of my FOIA requests, most of which deal with dead or extradited Americans. Next to each case number they wrote the name of the dead/arrested person I had inquired about. And next to this one they wrote "Elmore."

I don't think he was a diplomat/foreign service officer.
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