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They sound like incredibly dumb robbers. Who in their right mind would start throwing acid around in an enclosed moving vehicle? At best they would be coughing their guts up.
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And what are the rape statistics?Bubble T wrote:I don't get it. In every country that has reliable crime statistics with zero exceptions that I'm aware of, men vastly outnumber women as victims of violent crime. Being a woman makes it statistically less likely you'll be violently robbed, not more likely.Miguelito wrote: And I completely agree that it is different if you are a woman traveling alone; in a foreign culture or even in the West. But it's frustrating sometimes because I hear so many stories like "I know I shouldn't have done that as a solo female traveler". Oftentimes I hear of women who think they can protect themselves, and play a strong woman, but only after something has happened do they realize how vulnerable they are.
Well, as others mentioned, you would have been able to tell someone where you were, perhaps send them the pic of the license plate and car. For instance, if I ever sent a girl home at any point in the night in a taxi (in the West), I would take a photo of the car (and try to make sure the driver sees me doing that), and then text her later to make sure she made it home safe. In this situation, between the coughs it sounds like she should have had enough time to call someone. In other instances, if the car broke down in the middle of nowhere, if she had to run away, or a million other reasons, I think a phone could help.Alexandra wrote:I don't think having a phone would help at all. Just one more lost item. Who would you call, 911? And when? Sorry robber, before you throw that acid in my face can I just call someone? Then what? Hi I'm in a car somewhere with someone, send help?
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Depends on the country and whether you include the prison population (in America men constitute the overall majority of rape victims due to prison rape culture and massive prison population). However in the context of this thread it isn't relevant, we aren't talking about rape.Miguelito wrote:And what are the rape statistics?
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You’d then need an insider in every bank. Again not really the method of a taxi shake down crim.Alexandra wrote:Via transaction or bank insider.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote:How could someone check a balance with only the card number (not the account number) and a PIN?
I wouldn’t know how to do it.
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If via transaction then surely pretty easily traceable to the merchant in question. Would need more info than just card number and PIN though.
The part about them checking bank balance over the phone with card number and pin simply isn't believable, sorry. I'm inclined to believe Violet genuinely thought that's what happened and isn't being deliberately dishonest, but was somehow mistaken about that part of the story. It just isn't feasible.
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I was simply saying that when a solo female traveler enters a car with four strangers, there is that possibility and it is something that, if I were a woman, I would be concerned and worried about, and would take precautions to limit my personal risk factor.Bubble T wrote:Depends on the country and whether you include the prison population (in America men constitute the overall majority of rape victims due to prison rape culture and massive prison population). However in the context of this thread it isn't relevant, we aren't talking about rape.Miguelito wrote:And what are the rape statistics?
Also, with her scared about acid and machetes and etc, she is fortunate that all she lost was money and valuables. It doesn't diminish how terrifying it could be, or how much it sucks, but it's certainly not the worst case scenario.
I don't know what the statistics are of getting raped in a car with two other women, but it doesn't seem like something that would happen on a regular basis. Idk how you even turned this into being about rape, lets try to stay on topic....Miguelito wrote: I was simply saying that when a solo female traveler enters a car with four strangers....
very trippy indeed.kinard wrote:I think 'acid' is the clue to this mystery.
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Bubble T wrote:I don't get it. In every country that has reliable crime statistics with zero exceptions that I'm aware of, men vastly outnumber women as victims of violent crime. Being a woman makes it statistically less likely you'll be violently robbed, not more likely.Miguelito wrote: And I completely agree that it is different if you are a woman traveling alone; in a foreign culture or even in the West. But it's frustrating sometimes because I hear so many stories like "I know I shouldn't have done that as a solo female traveler". Oftentimes I hear of women who think they can protect themselves, and play a strong woman, but only after something has happened do they realize how vulnerable they are.
Perhaps women in general have modified their behavior to negate this.
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Well if those stats are true, it's because men piss off other men, and dudes end up fighting with each other, or men attack other men for "disrespecting" them or flirting with their girlfriends, or selling drugs on their turf, etc.Fight Milk wrote: I don't get it. In every country that has reliable crime statistics with zero exceptions that I'm aware of, men vastly outnumber women as victims of violent crime. Being a woman makes it statistically less likely you'll be violently robbed, not more likely.
I don't think a woman walking down the street minding her own business is less likely to be robbed or attacked than a man.
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I wasn't trying to "turn" it into anything. I was mentioning, perhaps highlighting even, a safety concern that women need to take into consideration. Being careful about getting into a car of four strangers is pretty high up on the list, right around "watch your drink at Arcadia".Bubble T wrote:I don't know what the statistics are of getting raped in a car with two other women, but it doesn't seem like something that would happen on a regular basis. Idk how you even turned this into being about rape, lets try to stay on topic....Miguelito wrote: I was simply saying that when a solo female traveler enters a car with four strangers....
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My original thought was that they'd stopped and given the card for someone to go try a withdrawal... However thé moving car obviously means that's not the case. Bank insider is the only possibility, but that means having an insider at every single for bank, which isn't probable at all.Bubble T wrote:The part about them checking bank balance over the phone with card number and pin simply isn't believable, sorry. I'm inclined to believe Violet genuinely thought that's what happened and isn't being deliberately dishonest, but was somehow mistaken about that part of the story. It just isn't feasible.
I honestly also think many things happened in violets mind rather than reality. As in the typical "Oh, that's a really nice watch, how much did it cost you?" spiel being interpreted as a robbery... Notre to that extent, but she probably misread several events. The water bottle thing was probably more of a "here, have a drink". I think the whole acid thing is what her brain related to make sense of what she wasn't understanding. She speaks no Khmer and was in a high stress environment, so it's not unusual for the brain to fill in the gaps on its own in such situations.
As for the phone, it's always useful. I'm not talking about carrying and iPhone X while travelling, but even a $60 phone will have Google maps and GPS. Never tell people it's your first time in the country to the taxi drivers at a port of entry. I made that mistake only once (in India, of all places to keep ones guard down) and it ended up with me getting out in the middle of a roundabout in New Delhi with the scammer driver shouting at me and almost ended up in a punch up. Still, the phone with preloaded maps allowed me to know I was being diverted time and time again from the destination and put an end to his bullshit (basically claiming hotel was closed and refusing to bring me there, festival this and that, etc etc). Usually the trick is to walk with a determined pace, say you've been there before and then pull out the phone now and then for navigation.
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I think it's unlikely there is the levels of sophistication here about the card and them contacting any bank.
What is more plausible and reasonable to guess what happened with the card they called up someone and ask them to make a purchase of something, be that online or in a shop (where the pin was needed). This case reportedly happened in Siem Reap where someone had a card stolen at the temples and several large transactions were attempted ($3000 plus) all at the Large Duty Free Shop, clearly by an employee (all were declined). As Violet said there was only $20 on that card so any transaction over that would have been declined leading them to complain there was no money on the card.
Horrible as all this sounds and not wishing to call this incident into too much question or dispute it happened as Violet recalls, Poipet is full of scumbags. However having made that journey many time myself (in a pre-booked taxi seat) I find it quite odd that during an 8 hour (approx Poipet>Phnom Penh) journey took place with all this going on. Not once did they stop? These are Khmers they can't survive beyond 2.5 hours without needing to stop to eat. If they did stop what prevented you from escaping or removing yourself from their company? Also baffling why they wouldn't just get all your cards and money etc. and just drop you an hour outside of Poipet in Sisophon or something instead of going all the way to Phnom Penh.
What is more plausible and reasonable to guess what happened with the card they called up someone and ask them to make a purchase of something, be that online or in a shop (where the pin was needed). This case reportedly happened in Siem Reap where someone had a card stolen at the temples and several large transactions were attempted ($3000 plus) all at the Large Duty Free Shop, clearly by an employee (all were declined). As Violet said there was only $20 on that card so any transaction over that would have been declined leading them to complain there was no money on the card.
Horrible as all this sounds and not wishing to call this incident into too much question or dispute it happened as Violet recalls, Poipet is full of scumbags. However having made that journey many time myself (in a pre-booked taxi seat) I find it quite odd that during an 8 hour (approx Poipet>Phnom Penh) journey took place with all this going on. Not once did they stop? These are Khmers they can't survive beyond 2.5 hours without needing to stop to eat. If they did stop what prevented you from escaping or removing yourself from their company? Also baffling why they wouldn't just get all your cards and money etc. and just drop you an hour outside of Poipet in Sisophon or something instead of going all the way to Phnom Penh.
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