A heated discussion about the safety of airlines here in S-E-Asia led nowhere but someone suggested this article:
http://www.askthepilot.com/questionansw ... ne-safety/
Does anyone here have anything to say about airline safety here in S-E-Asia?
"Safe" and "dangerous" airlines
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Flew from Kupang, Timor, to Jakarta in the mid nineties with the above airline (possibly that plane) and thought we wouldn't make it due to weather/turbulence. What made it worse, the cockpit door didn't lock/close so we would get snapshots of the pilots wrestling with the plane as the door banged open and shut.
AirAsia flight over the position where flight 8501 went into the Java Sea a week or two before (Dec 2014), the cabin crew turn down the cabin lights next to pitch black and start singing/crying and praying in Indonesian. Weird and spooky.
Flew from Kupang, Timor, to Jakarta in the mid nineties with the above airline (possibly that plane) and thought we wouldn't make it due to weather/turbulence. What made it worse, the cockpit door didn't lock/close so we would get snapshots of the pilots wrestling with the plane as the door banged open and shut.
AirAsia flight over the position where flight 8501 went into the Java Sea a week or two before (Dec 2014), the cabin crew turn down the cabin lights next to pitch black and start singing/crying and praying in Indonesian. Weird and spooky.
"That was probably Londo...He is always shitty." - Marvin
BA009, a BA 747 en route from KL to Perth in 1982, lost all four engines and no-one knew why. The captain announced to the pax, who were spooked by the eerie silence. "We have a small problem. All our engines have stopped and we are doing our damnedest to get them working again. I trust you are not in too much distress." Superb flying skills saved 263 lives. Contrast QZ8501 in which the Air Asia flight crew managed to fly a perfectly serviceable plane into the sea off Indonesia in 2014; 155 died. Not picking on Asian airlines, Air Canada has had several nasty incidents lately. Luckily no fatalities.
I fly Air Asia (who I think are as safe as most Asian airlines). One could fly thousands of times before flying skills actually made a difference. Lists of airlines with no fatalities since 1980 do not tell the whole story. Some airlines cover a lot more miles than others. The pprune website is a good source of insider comment.
I fly Air Asia (who I think are as safe as most Asian airlines). One could fly thousands of times before flying skills actually made a difference. Lists of airlines with no fatalities since 1980 do not tell the whole story. Some airlines cover a lot more miles than others. The pprune website is a good source of insider comment.
Serious candidate for the second category tends to be: Emirates&Flydubay.
See, a management letter to the pilots, admitting on recent items (Including an A380 at 100m above the ground, some 15km out from one of the Moscow airports):
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/59970 ... t-sim.html
Huge problem is the overworked & insufficient rest situation for their pilots as well as the middle east company culture, both largely being ignored by (higher) management.
It's the only airline group of size with 2 hull losses in the past 2 years.....
See, a management letter to the pilots, admitting on recent items (Including an A380 at 100m above the ground, some 15km out from one of the Moscow airports):
http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/59970 ... t-sim.html
Huge problem is the overworked & insufficient rest situation for their pilots as well as the middle east company culture, both largely being ignored by (higher) management.
It's the only airline group of size with 2 hull losses in the past 2 years.....
Turbulence is pretty uncomfortable, though does not bring down a plane. The plane is designed to withstand that.Londo wrote:.... thought we wouldn't make it due to weather/turbulence.
.....Weird and spooky.
Speaking with a pilot last year he told me that he was appalled by how the ground crew serviced the planes doing the cheapest trip from PNH to REP airports (forgot the name, that Cambodian owned company that charges half price for khmer passenger). He literally said they will be having a disastrous accident very soon, which coming from a guy with thousands of flight hours was quite ominous. Also he mentioned that more than once those planes lost some metal debris from the fuselage while taking off and landing as if it was absolutely normal.
I agree with you, it is worrying, though the statistics show, that "technical" failures are nowadays seldom the accident (or even hairy incident) causes. Biggest problem are the by far over-tired pilots, resulting in "bad-decision making". About all crashes tend to be pilot induced. Don't forget these planes are extremely well engineered and do have double or even triple redundancy on board.jackrossi wrote:Speaking with a pilot last year he told me that he was appalled by how the ground crew serviced the planes doing the cheapest trip from PNH to REP airports (forgot the name, that Cambodian owned company that charges half price for khmer passenger). He literally said they will be having a disastrous accident very soon, which coming from a guy with thousands of flight hours was quite ominous. Also he mentioned that more than once those planes lost some metal debris from the fuselage while taking off and landing as if it was absolutely normal.
You can better have a "drunk" pilot than an exhausted pilot.......
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