Lights out for The Post?
I'm looking forward to Mr Ganapathy writing a series of letter to the new Post under a number of assumed and unconvincing names.
“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.”
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It seems to me more like a load of old crap rather than a fair response.violet wrote:Benefit of the doubt. Some of this seems fair response to me.epidemiks wrote:The new owner responds, contradicting his own representatives who reportedly told staff the firing of the EIC had nothing to do with the story.
Where's my popcorn?
Readership of PPP might go up, in the short term at least as people form their own opinions of PPP under new ownership.
1. The name of the new owner isn't wrong. They just omitted the middle initial, exactly the same as Mr. Ganapathy did to someone else further down in the same letter. Unless there are a shitload of Sivakumar Ganapathy's knocking about in the Malaysian media sector then it's a very weird point to make first off.
2. The 'E' in CEO is a little clue here. The CEO is an executive of a firm by default. Another weird point to make.
3. He's done work directly for both the Cambodian and Malaysian governments. Whether it's 25 years or 5 minutes ago he's still linked to them. Another weird point.
4. Fair enough, but a bit of a moot point when it's the same individual that owns both companies.
5. Environmental groups have claimed that 90% of Sarawak's forests have gone:
https://www.economist.com/news/finance- ... licies-log
https://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com ... /31/17222/
https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/onli ... 3/logging/
6. Another weird point, and plain wrong.
7. The names weren't carelessly mentioned at all. Another weird point.
The bloke seems a bit unhinged, tbh, and the Post is all geared up to go exactly the same way as the Myanmar Times, with all of the journalists with any integrity leaving.
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Well there are actually quite a few Sivakumar Ganapathy's knocking about as a quick Google search reveals. I like the way he came in there guns-a-blazing, it's sure to endear him to the local staff.Unless there are a shitload of Sivakumar Ganapathy's knocking about in the Malaysian media sector then it's a very weird point to make first off.
The Post's story about the buy out seemed to copy a Tweet by Julia Wallace a day or so earlier almost to the letter.
https://twitter.com/julia_wallace?lang=en
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Nah, I'm guessing it stands for "See you in court motherfucker!"gavinmac wrote:What does the “S” stand for? Shithead?
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Phnom Penh Post sees mass staff walkout as new owner demands self-censorship
By: Thomas Brent, Tom O'Connell, Janelle Retka - Posted on: May 7, 2018 | Cambodia
Editorial staff stage a revolt at the newspaper’s office after the paper’s new owner calls for the retraction of an article alleging his ties to the Cambodian government
Cambodia’s last independent newspaper has had its editorial team gutted after its managing editor, web editor and two senior journalists resigned following a demand from the Phnom Penh Post’s new owner to take down an article reporting on the sale of the paper over the weekend. The Post’s editor-in-chief Kay Kimsong was then fired for his role in the article’s publication.
“I got fired by the new owner…because I’m the editor-in-chief and I allowed the printing of the independent story based on journalistic integrity,” Kimsong told Southeast Asia Globe shortly after he was dismissed. “I trust my reporters and my editors and I think that being journalists, we made the right decision. But it’s their business and they said, ‘Kimsong, you’re the editor-in-chief – and you made a big mistake.’”
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“I was asked to take down the story about the sale by a colleague, who characterised it as a direct order from the new management,” White told Southeast Asia Globe. “I didn’t feel like I could do that in good conscience, so I resigned immediately.”
The order was passed through the ranks, with each editor refusing to take down the story. Web editor Jenni Reid then refused and resigned, followed by the co-authors of the piece, business editor Brendan O’Byrne and senior journalist Ananth Baliga. CEO Marcus Holmes was the last to tender his resignation
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Considering the backgrounds of the owners a merger with Khmer Times might occur in the foreseeable future.
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I'm sorry, but I don't care what business you are in, doing a hatchet job on your new boss on the very first day is unprofessional to the highest degree and to be fair, outright petulant. I know absolutely nothing about the new owner or the EIC except what I've read in the Post article, but I can see he's a successful businessman who's not a young man, so it's a given that he absolutely knows that when running a business you can't let that kind of insubordination slide.
There's no point in nitpicking the details, it's pretty clear what happened, the EIC took a professional swing at the new owner and then got KO'd. The more interesting question is why he took a swing?
Did he honestly think that if there were business dealings relating to the new owner that might present a conflict of interest, that this wouldn't get reported through other channels? If he did strongly believe there was a conflict why didn't he just submit his resignation immediately?
If I were a gambling man, I would say that disclosure regarding the plans of the new owner were a condition of the sale or part of the negotiations, the EIC and other key staff weren't part of those plans and the previous owner told the EIC as a courtesy. The EIC then thought it would look better on his CV if he exited by falling on the sword of press freedom.
There's no point in nitpicking the details, it's pretty clear what happened, the EIC took a professional swing at the new owner and then got KO'd. The more interesting question is why he took a swing?
Did he honestly think that if there were business dealings relating to the new owner that might present a conflict of interest, that this wouldn't get reported through other channels? If he did strongly believe there was a conflict why didn't he just submit his resignation immediately?
If I were a gambling man, I would say that disclosure regarding the plans of the new owner were a condition of the sale or part of the negotiations, the EIC and other key staff weren't part of those plans and the previous owner told the EIC as a courtesy. The EIC then thought it would look better on his CV if he exited by falling on the sword of press freedom.
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Wait, you think the journalists at the Post should have written an article about the sale without mentioning that the new owner has ties to the regime? They should have ignored that, or suppressed it, and let other journalists inform the public about what is going on at their own paper? That would be laughable.starkmonster wrote:I'm sorry, but I don't care what business you are in, doing a hatchet job on your new boss on the very first day is unprofessional to the highest degree and to be fair, outright petulant. I know absolutely nothing about the new owner or the EIC except what I've read in the Post article, but I can see he's a successful businessman who's not a young man, so it's a given that he absolutely knows that when running a business you can't let that kind of insubordination slide.
There's no point in nitpicking the details, it's pretty clear what happened, the EIC took a professional swing at the new owner and then got KO'd. The more interesting question is why he took a swing?
Did he honestly think that if there were business dealings relating to the new owner that might present a conflict of interest, that this wouldn't get reported through other channels? If he did strongly believe there was a conflict why didn't he just submit his resignation immediately?
If I were a gambling man, I would say that disclosure regarding the plans of the new owner were a condition of the sale or part of the negotiations, the EIC and other key staff weren't part of those plans and the previous owner told the EIC as a courtesy. The EIC then thought it would look better on his CV if he exited by falling on the sword of press freedom.
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The article was the typical muck raking that characterizes the English language press here. This clearly wasn't a story on the sale, it was an unflattering story on the character of the new owner.
So the new owner of the Post purchased a company in 2011 that did the PR for a signing ceremony back in 1997? That's it, everything else is hearsay and tenuous links. According to Twitter they knew the purchase was happening since March, so they've had this information since March, and that article was the best hit piece they could do? The part where they started trying to use the character of the subject matter of his published books against him was where I stopped reading, how tenuous do you want to get?
I'm not defending the guy, I know nothing about him, therefore I'm reserving judgement. But in my professional opinion if you're going to square off publicly with your new boss and publicly call into question his character and integrity (in his own fucking newspaper to boot), you had better come with something a hell of a lot stronger than that drivel. Else it's professional suicide, which for me is the only logical explanation.
So the new owner of the Post purchased a company in 2011 that did the PR for a signing ceremony back in 1997? That's it, everything else is hearsay and tenuous links. According to Twitter they knew the purchase was happening since March, so they've had this information since March, and that article was the best hit piece they could do? The part where they started trying to use the character of the subject matter of his published books against him was where I stopped reading, how tenuous do you want to get?
I'm not defending the guy, I know nothing about him, therefore I'm reserving judgement. But in my professional opinion if you're going to square off publicly with your new boss and publicly call into question his character and integrity (in his own fucking newspaper to boot), you had better come with something a hell of a lot stronger than that drivel. Else it's professional suicide, which for me is the only logical explanation.
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I agree with Starkmonster. As entertaining as it is to watch going after your new boss is only going to end one way.
The article didn’t come up with much in way of strong facts, more like innuendo and some of it was unnecessary to the article - just seemed to be stuck in there to irritate the new regime.
I can’t believe that they were so naive to think that they could do this and continue with their jobs.
It’s a bit like this place, you just don’t get worker bees like pedros and playboy going after the big boss do you?
Why’s that? Because they are professional and their integrity is beyond question.
The article didn’t come up with much in way of strong facts, more like innuendo and some of it was unnecessary to the article - just seemed to be stuck in there to irritate the new regime.
I can’t believe that they were so naive to think that they could do this and continue with their jobs.
It’s a bit like this place, you just don’t get worker bees like pedros and playboy going after the big boss do you?
Why’s that? Because they are professional and their integrity is beyond question.
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Who was this memo to? It reads like a cross between a press release and an internal memo. Either way, I somehow can't get Trump's voice out of my head while reading this (or an impersonator's voice such as Seth Meyers). Here, try picturing that yourself:NO JOKE DAVE wrote:It seems to me more like a load of old crap rather than a fair response.violet wrote:Benefit of the doubt. Some of this seems fair response to me.epidemiks wrote:The new owner responds, contradicting his own representatives who reportedly told staff the firing of the EIC had nothing to do with the story.
Where's my popcorn?
Readership of PPP might go up, in the short term at least as people form their own opinions of PPP under new ownership.
1. The name of the new owner isn't wrong. They just omitted the middle initial, exactly the same as Mr. Ganapathy did to someone else further down in the same letter. Unless there are a shitload of Sivakumar Ganapathy's knocking about in the Malaysian media sector then it's a very weird point to make first off.
2. The 'E' in CEO is a little clue here. The CEO is an executive of a firm by default. Another weird point to make.
3. He's done work directly for both the Cambodian and Malaysian governments. Whether it's 25 years or 5 minutes ago he's still linked to them. Another weird point.
4. Fair enough, but a bit of a moot point when it's the same individual that owns both companies.
5. Environmental groups have claimed that 90% of Sarawak's forests have gone:
https://www.economist.com/news/finance- ... licies-log
https://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com ... /31/17222/
https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/onli ... 3/logging/
6. Another weird point, and plain wrong.
7. The names weren't carelessly mentioned at all. Another weird point.
The bloke seems a bit unhinged, tbh, and the Post is all geared up to go exactly the same way as the Myanmar Times, with all of the journalists with any integrity leaving.
- "You got my name wrong, ok? The name is not Sivakumar Ganapathy, the name has an S, it's Sivakumar S. Ganapathy. There could be a million Sivakumar Ganapathy's, that's just a fact, but there is only one Sivakumar S. Ganapathy, which is a great name."
- "Sir, if there are even a dozen Sivakumar Ganapathy's, couldn't one have the middle name starting with 'S'?"
- "Uh, what? No, that is impossible."
Or, at a rally:
"The Fake News called me an executive of the company, which is like, an executive? Do I look like an executive to you? Folks, I was the CEO, ok, that's the chief, you know, the boss. C-E-O. Chief Officer, head hauncho, Chief Executive Officer, duh!"
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So did the $3.9 million tax bill just get written off then?
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