Former Hi Bridge teacher Micky Rife charged in the U.S. for child sexual assault in Cambodia
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A few developments in the Rife case.
1. The parties have agreed to delay the trial date for a few months
2. The district court judge has denied Rife's request to be released and allowed to live with his mom pending trial. He'll stay locked up until he is charged
3. Rife's lawyers have filed a motion to dismiss the indictment, arguing that the PROTECT ACT, which criminalizes sex with children by Americans in foreign countries, is unconstitutional.
The gist of the argument is that the U.S. government's jurisdiction to prosecute Americans who travel abroad to have sex is based on the foreign commerce clause of the constitution, and Rife's alleged molestation of the girls had no relation to foreign commerce, because: (a) he was not a sex tourist but a longtime resident of Cambodia, and (b) he didn't pay the girls for sex.
Rife isn't going to win this argument, at least not at the district court level. He's also not likely to win it if he is convicted and appeals.
Rife's motion is here:
1. The parties have agreed to delay the trial date for a few months
2. The district court judge has denied Rife's request to be released and allowed to live with his mom pending trial. He'll stay locked up until he is charged
3. Rife's lawyers have filed a motion to dismiss the indictment, arguing that the PROTECT ACT, which criminalizes sex with children by Americans in foreign countries, is unconstitutional.
The gist of the argument is that the U.S. government's jurisdiction to prosecute Americans who travel abroad to have sex is based on the foreign commerce clause of the constitution, and Rife's alleged molestation of the girls had no relation to foreign commerce, because: (a) he was not a sex tourist but a longtime resident of Cambodia, and (b) he didn't pay the girls for sex.
Rife isn't going to win this argument, at least not at the district court level. He's also not likely to win it if he is convicted and appeals.
Rife's motion is here:
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Wow, not much respect for the US govt before I read this, even less now, I guess it is all just about money.gavinmac wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:25 pmThe gist of the argument is that the U.S. government's jurisdiction to prosecute Americans who travel abroad to have sex is based on the foreign commerce clause of the constitution, and Rife's alleged molestation of the girls had no relation to foreign commerce, because: (a) he was not a sex tourist but a longtime resident of Cambodia, and (b) he didn't pay the girls for sex.
Fuck little children if you like, just don't mess with the cash flow.
How do these trashbags sleep at night?
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That's his lawyer's argument, not the government's argument. The government wants to lock him up for 30+ years. The USA is one of the very few (only?) countries that prosecutes its citizens back home for having sex with children abroad. So I don't think this is a good thread for you to claim Uncle Sam is more interested in money than in protecting children.
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Lol, Vlad yet again fails to check his facts and gets owned as a result.gavinmac wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:46 pmThat's his lawyer's argument, not the government's argument. The government wants to lock him up for 30+ years. The USA is one of the very few (only?) countries that prosecutes its citizens back home for having sex with children abroad. So I don't think this is a good thread for you to claim Uncle Sam is more interested in money than in protecting children.
Also, I think Australia prosecutes its citizens for the same crimes.
Yes Australia does.
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1. If the lawyer enters a plea / challenge based on that ion court, then there's a chance there is a loophole, yes?
2. Or are you saying these lawyers are amoral skunks who try anything, even that which is without precedent?
Just asking.
@Starving Pelican...did you hear about the alleged hit and run in Cambodia by a Singaporean woman biker?
2. Or are you saying these lawyers are amoral skunks who try anything, even that which is without precedent?
Just asking.
@Starving Pelican...did you hear about the alleged hit and run in Cambodia by a Singaporean woman biker?
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Which thread would be good for that?Starving Pelican wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:03 amSo I don't think this is a good thread for you to claim Uncle Sam is more interested in money than in protecting children.
Saudi buddies bomb school bus in Yemen full of kids (2018)and we say effall?
Union Carbide in Bhopal 1984?
Palestine...pick one of hundreds?
There are many threads about known US sex offenders travelling to Cambodia unchallenged. Yes?
If Uncle Sam is more interested in protecting children than money, please explain why registered US sex offenders are allowed to travel to known child sex-tourist destinations, seemingly without any restrictions whatsoever.
I mean, it's surely not a case of costs, right?
Just asking, so I can post more to your liking, that's my first priority.
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Wrong again. It's about an American with no significant criminal record moving to Cambodia and allegedly molesting children and being charged and locked up in the USA within two months of arriving home.
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My post was edited before you replied, which you chose to ignore.
The fact remains that the actions of the US seem to indicate that they do not care about children if it costs money to monitor offenders...many known sex offenders have travelled to Cambodia, an din many cases of violence involving small children, wealthy nations and companies have been given a bye.
To be fair, favouritism/ byes for serious offences happens in America too, at least they are consistent in their shenanigans
The fact remains that the actions of the US seem to indicate that they do not care about children if it costs money to monitor offenders...many known sex offenders have travelled to Cambodia, an din many cases of violence involving small children, wealthy nations and companies have been given a bye.
To be fair, favouritism/ byes for serious offences happens in America too, at least they are consistent in their shenanigans
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Seems like a compelling argument. Why don’t you think he’ll win?gavinmac wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:25 pmA few developments in the Rife case.
1. The parties have agreed to delay the trial date for a few months
2. The district court judge has denied Rife's request to be released and allowed to live with his mom pending trial. He'll stay locked up until he is charged
3. Rife's lawyers have filed a motion to dismiss the indictment, arguing that the PROTECT ACT, which criminalizes sex with children by Americans in foreign countries, is unconstitutional.
The gist of the argument is that the U.S. government's jurisdiction to prosecute Americans who travel abroad to have sex is based on the foreign commerce clause of the constitution, and Rife's alleged molestation of the girls had no relation to foreign commerce, because: (a) he was not a sex tourist but a longtime resident of Cambodia, and (b) he didn't pay the girls for sex.
Rife isn't going to win this argument, at least not at the district court level. He's also not likely to win it if he is convicted and appeals.
Rife's motion is here:
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Think you're quoting gavinmac there, mate.vladimir wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:20 pmWhich thread would be good for that?Starving Pelican wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:03 amSo I don't think this is a good thread for you to claim Uncle Sam is more interested in money than in protecting children.
Saudi buddies bomb school bus in Yemen full of kids (2018)and we say effall?
Union Carbide in Bhopal 1984?
Palestine...pick one of hundreds?
There are many threads about known US sex offenders travelling to Cambodia unchallenged. Yes?
If Uncle Sam is more interested in protecting children than money, please explain why registered US sex offenders are allowed to travel to known child sex-tourist destinations, seemingly without any restrictions whatsoever.
I mean, it's surely not a case of costs, right?
Just asking, so I can post more to your liking, that's my first priority.
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You were referring to the US government, not lawyers.vladimir wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:10 pm1. If the lawyer enters a plea / challenge based on that ion court, then there's a chance there is a loophole, yes?
2. Or are you saying these lawyers are amoral skunks who try anything, even that which is without precedent?
Just asking.
@Starving Pelican...did you hear about the alleged hit and run in Cambodia by a Singaporean woman biker?
And no, I didn't hear about the Singaporean biker. Why would I care?
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How many of the 193 countries in the world prosecute citizens who sexually abuse foreign children in foreign countries? The U.S. does. I hear that Australia does. Does any other country do this? Or is it just two?vladimir wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:48 pmMy post was edited before you replied, which you chose to ignore.
The fact remains that the actions of the US seem to indicate that they do not care about children if it costs money to monitor offenders...many known sex offenders have travelled to Cambodia, an din many cases of violence involving small children, wealthy nations and companies have been given a bye.
To be fair, favouritism/ byes for serious offences happens in America too, at least they are consistent in their shenanigans
How many countries have law enforcement agents stationed at their embassies in foreign countries who work with foreign police authorities to track down and arrest and forcibly return its citizens who abuse children abroad? The USA does. Very few other countries do.
How many national law enforcement agencies pay cash to Cambodian police officers and to APLE staff as a reward for finding and arresting that countries child predators in Cambodia? The FBI does.
The USA is as aggressive, or more aggressive, than any other country in the world at tracking down, arresting, prosecuting, and incarcerating citizens who abuse children in foreign countries.
Daniel Johnson abused five Cambodian children in Cambodia, and Cambodian authorities sentenced him to a year in prison. If he were French or Swiss or Dutch or Nigerian or Russian or Mexican or Chinese, wouldn't that have been the end of it? A year in prison for raping five kids and he'd be free as a bird?
Johnson was American. The USA arranged his return to the USA and he was tried there and sentenced to LIFE in prison for molesting five Cambodian children in Cambodia. And your take on all of this is that the USA is weak on child sex crimes and too focused on money?
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