Prahok wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:04 amThe interesting thing about this thread is that everyone knows exactly what you're on about.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amThe really brilliant thing about this thread is that nobody has any idea what I'm talking about.
Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt, which is why they call the police to beat up cheated customers. You are hoping that posters will discuss the police angle, perhaps tell some stories, which reinforces your premise.
Posters are pointing out that your premise is incorrect in their collective experience (substantial collective experience at that) and hence anything built upon this premise also incorrect.
I trust this constructive feedback is of assistance.
What Would Happen If a Khmer Punched a Khmer Shopkeeper On the Nose for Trying To Cheat Him?
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Why? Govts do it all the time, yours included. In fact, perhaps yours moreso than most.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amAbout a shopkeeper being able to pay the police to have someone beaten up. Now, that's interesting...
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The shopkeeper would have been paying for them to hurry up. If you assault and injure a trader the police have every right to arrest you, and they might not feel like being gentle about it.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amAbout a shopkeeper being able to pay the police to have someone beaten up. Now, that's interesting...
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I'll see your caveat emptor, and raise you a carte blanche.
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Bullshit.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:31 pmThe shopkeeper would have been paying for them to hurry up. If you assault and injure a trader the police have every right to arrest you, and they might not feel like being gentle about it.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amAbout a shopkeeper being able to pay the police to have someone beaten up. Now, that's interesting...
Although, they have every right to arrest you, might not be gentle in no way equates with being paid to be beat someone up.
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Nicely stated. Logical and concise.Prahok wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:04 amThe interesting thing about this thread is that everyone knows exactly what you're on about.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amThe really brilliant thing about this thread is that nobody has any idea what I'm talking about.
Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt, which is why they call the police to beat up cheated customers. You are hoping that posters will discuss the police angle, perhaps tell some stories, which reinforces your premise.
Posters are pointing out that your premise is incorrect in their collective experience (substantial collective experience at that) and hence anything built upon this premise also incorrect.
I trust this constructive feedback is of assistance.
Freedom is not a state. It is an act. It is not some enchanted garden perched high on a distant plateau.. Freedom is a continuous action we all must take, and each generation must do its part to create an even more fair, more just society.-John Lewis
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Nicely stated for a delusional paranoic perhaps.Sonic1 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 2:00 pmNicely stated. Logical and concise.Prahok wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:04 amThe interesting thing about this thread is that everyone knows exactly what you're on about.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amThe really brilliant thing about this thread is that nobody has any idea what I'm talking about.
Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt, which is why they call the police to beat up cheated customers. You are hoping that posters will discuss the police angle, perhaps tell some stories, which reinforces your premise.
Posters are pointing out that your premise is incorrect in their collective experience (substantial collective experience at that) and hence anything built upon this premise also incorrect.
I trust this constructive feedback is of assistance.
Reading far too deeply into a basic question. Must have chosen the wrong Oreo, or I triggered some Cambodian expat pricing psyche response.
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When presented with logic you slag the messenger. Says more about you and your inability to have an intelligent discussion.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:07 pmNicely stated for a delusional paranoic perhaps.Sonic1 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 2:00 pmNicely stated. Logical and concise.Prahok wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:04 amThe interesting thing about this thread is that everyone knows exactly what you're on about.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amThe really brilliant thing about this thread is that nobody has any idea what I'm talking about.
Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt, which is why they call the police to beat up cheated customers. You are hoping that posters will discuss the police angle, perhaps tell some stories, which reinforces your premise.
Posters are pointing out that your premise is incorrect in their collective experience (substantial collective experience at that) and hence anything built upon this premise also incorrect.
I trust this constructive feedback is of assistance.
Reading far too deeply into a basic question. Must have chosen the wrong Oreo, or I triggered some Cambodian expat pricing psyche response.
Freedom is not a state. It is an act. It is not some enchanted garden perched high on a distant plateau.. Freedom is a continuous action we all must take, and each generation must do its part to create an even more fair, more just society.-John Lewis
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Logic?Sonic1 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 5:11 pmWhen presented with logic you slag the messenger. Says more about you and your inability to have an intelligent discussion.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:07 pmNicely stated for a delusional paranoic perhaps.Sonic1 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 2:00 pmNicely stated. Logical and concise.Prahok wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:04 amThe interesting thing about this thread is that everyone knows exactly what you're on about.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amThe really brilliant thing about this thread is that nobody has any idea what I'm talking about.
Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt, which is why they call the police to beat up cheated customers. You are hoping that posters will discuss the police angle, perhaps tell some stories, which reinforces your premise.
Posters are pointing out that your premise is incorrect in their collective experience (substantial collective experience at that) and hence anything built upon this premise also incorrect.
I trust this constructive feedback is of assistance.
Reading far too deeply into a basic question. Must have chosen the wrong Oreo, or I triggered some Cambodian expat pricing psyche response.
Is it logical to talk about Vietnamese shopkeepers when the question I posed was about Cambodia? It's in the tittle of the thread. I think you should read some of the other replies on this thread before accusing me of any slagging.
This thread is not about about cheating immoral small shopkeepers in Vietnam or anywhere else. It is about police practices..
It's not based on my "opinion" or "observation", but from experience. Experience of around ten Vietnamese people who have told me their experiences.
For passing on this information and asking whether it happens here, i have been called racist and stupid.
I have never had a Khmer complaining to me about the police in relation to small shop practices in Cambodia. It could be for a few reasons, one of which may be they prefer not to discuss these sort of things with myself;
I thought I would ask. But it does seem that I have triggered a rather strange expat response to SEA small business practices. Which I find rather at odds with what is widely known about them in the West.
It seeme rather ingrained in the expat psyche. I'm genuinely worried about you all, as it cant be healthy denying the obvious.
You cannot generalize a whole race unless its white males, Then its ok.Sonic1 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 2:00 pmNicely stated. Logical and concise.Prahok wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:04 amThe interesting thing about this thread is that everyone knows exactly what you're on about.Aseriousman wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 7:02 amThe really brilliant thing about this thread is that nobody has any idea what I'm talking about.
Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt, which is why they call the police to beat up cheated customers. You are hoping that posters will discuss the police angle, perhaps tell some stories, which reinforces your premise.
Posters are pointing out that your premise is incorrect in their collective experience (substantial collective experience at that) and hence anything built upon this premise also incorrect.
I trust this constructive feedback is of assistance.
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The OP has presented a fallacious argument and has sought to avoid exposing the fallacy rather than debate the factual credentials of the premise.
Ways to do this include diversion through strawmen, which he used often in a previous thread, or to undermine the credentials of the questioner through ad hominem attacks, which he is attempting now.
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Right then...Prahok wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:25 am
The OP has presented a fallacious argument and has sought to avoid exposing the fallacy rather than debate the factual credentials of the premise.
Ways to do this include diversion through strawmen, which he used often in a previous thread, or to undermine the credentials of the questioner through ad hominem attacks, which he is attempting now.
A straw man is a form of argument based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument,
Exhibit A opponents argument (original)
while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.What Would Happen If a Khmer Punched a Khmer Shopkeeper On the Nose for Trying To Cheat Him?]?
Exhibit B Refuted non presented argument:
by Lucky Lucan » Sun May 19, 2019 1:19 am
It appears that some of the whinging "everyone is trying to cheat me"
And again by the very same poster:by Prahok » Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 am
The OP's attempt to create a thread that steers towards yuon shopkeepers are all brutish cheats" is somewhat transparent. At least he's consistent, you have to give him that.
Straw man in 5........4.........3........
Can we not just agree to blame the French? I was told that they went to Vietnam and made everybody miserable. Perhaps it was the same here?Your premise is that Vietnamese shopkeepers are generally morally bankrupt,
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If you think it's sensible advice, please set the example and lead the way.
Tell them you're American first, that should smooth things over.
I hope you have good medical cover.
Tell them you're American first, that should smooth things over.
I hope you have good medical cover.
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It sounds very much like you are suggesting the shopkeeper would pay the police to beat me up?
At last! An answer!
That leads me to all sorts of conclusions...
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