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Does the FBI bribe police to arrest Americans, and also pay APLE Director Seila Samleang as a confidential informant?

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Post by Miguelito » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:31 pm

I think by asking this question, you can guess the answer.

Have a read of GavinMac's latest for yourself:

AMERICAN COURT DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT APLE DIRECTOR SEILA SAMLEANG IS A PAID CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT FOR THE FBI, AND THE FBI BRIBES CAMBODIAN POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARREST AMERICAN CITIZENS


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Post by vladimir » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:56 pm

Is it a problem if he's supplying information to catch paedos? Because surely that's what he's doing, yes? I also suspect that his mandate includes cooperating with any law-enforcement agency, local or foreign, in the pursuit of his job goals.

How could it be a problem?

If the FBI are using him to catch paedos, good for them, hopefully it will result in kids being more protected.

" Imagine if the government of Cambodia wanted a Cambodian arrested in the USA, something that might be a low priority for American police officers. So they offer cash payments to dozens of American cops and FBI agents to divert their attention from their highest priority cases on behalf of American taxpayers and to re-direct their efforts to tracking down a fugitive from Cambodian law. Any corrupt American cop or FBI agent who accepted such payments would be fired from his job and could be prosecuted under 18 USC § 201, the federal anti-bribery statute.'

The above assumes 1) that the suspect paedophile is innocent and implies 2) that paedophilia is a low-priority crime. It also equates US law with Cambodian law, a bit off. The system/relationship between NGOs and the FBI is probably not covered under Cambodian law. Maybe a lawyer who's familiar with Cambodian law can enlighten us.
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Post by Miguelito » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:05 pm

Do you even bother to read the article? It raises such questions as:

- Is Mr. Seila acting true to APLE’s overall mission, or is he disproportionately directing APLE’s resources towards targeting Americans, because he personally gets cash bonuses from the FBI when an American is arrested?

- Mr. Seila says that APLE’s relationship with the FBI is similar to its relationships with other law enforcement agencies. Does that mean that other foreign governments also pay Mr. Seila when APLE investigations lead to the arrest of their citizens?

- Why are these FBI payments even necessary? It’s presumably Mr. Seila’s job as APLE’s Director to investigate pedophiles and cooperate with law enforcement agencies who seek to prosecute them.

- What does Mr. Seila do differently when the FBI promises or pays him $5,000?

- If the FBI didn’t pay Mr. Seila thousands of dollars, would he withhold APLE’s cooperation in investigating Americans who might prey on Cambodian children?

- APLE provides a list of donors on its website, and the FBI is not on that list. Assuming this is indeed a “side hustle” by Mr. Seila, where he just lines his pockets with the FBI’s money whenever APLE assists in arresting an American, is APLE’s Board of Directors aware of this?
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Post by Miguelito » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:35 pm

I’m surprised GavinMac made no reference to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), “which prohibits companies and their individual officers from influencing foreign officials with any personal payments or rewards. The FCPA applies to any person who has a certain degree of connection to the United States and engages in corrupt practices abroad, as well as to U.S. businesses, foreign corporations trading securities in the U.S., American nationals, citizens, and residents acting in furtherance of a foreign corrupt practice, whether or not they are physically present in the U.S. This is considered the nationality principle of the Act. Any individuals involved in these activities may face prison time.”

I guess FBI agents are exempt...
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Post by vladimir » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:43 pm

Miguelito wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:05 pm
Do you even bother to read the article?
Obviously not, doh

Only pansit-breath and the others in The Circle have the intelligence to read it.

I quoted from it.

Ergo, what would you say my chances are of having read it?

I know I'm using logic here, sorry.
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Post by vladimir » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:48 pm

Miguelito wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:05 pm
- Is Mr. Seila acting true to APLE’s overall mission, or is he disproportionately directing APLE’s resources towards targeting Americans, because he personally gets cash bonuses from the FBI when an American is arrested?
I personally don't give a poop, as long as paedos are going back to their home country, Murika, in this case..

I think the FBI and Donald concur

Any opinion on human rights for non-US citizens, like Yemeni children?

US armed intervention/invasion in so many countries?

Why the outrage over criminals?Confusing, tbh.
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Post by scobienz » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:02 pm

I totally applaud the selfless stance vlad is taking on sexual predators.

Very noble indeed.
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Post by Florida » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:20 pm

Wasn't it Vlad that was involved in some seedy sex attack scandal ?
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Post by Miguelito » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:37 pm

vladimir wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:43 pm
Miguelito wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:05 pm
Do you even bother to read the article?
Obviously not, doh

Only pansit-breath and the others in The Circle have the intelligence to read it.

I quoted from it.

Ergo, what would you say my chances are of having read it?

I know I'm using logic here, sorry.
You didn’t quote from it in your original post, you went back and edited the post while I was making mine.

You then quoted from a different section of the post than you were commenting on, and seem to have mixed the two sections up.
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Post by gavinmac » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:13 am

Miguelito wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:35 pm
I’m surprised GavinMac made no reference to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), “which prohibits companies and their individual officers from influencing foreign officials with any personal payments or rewards. The FCPA applies to any person who has a certain degree of connection to the United States and engages in corrupt practices abroad, as well as to U.S. businesses, foreign corporations trading securities in the U.S., American nationals, citizens, and residents acting in furtherance of a foreign corrupt practice, whether or not they are physically present in the U.S. This is considered the nationality principle of the Act. Any individuals involved in these activities may face prison time.”

I guess FBI agents are exempt...
I thought that Act only applied to Americans who pay bribes to foreign officials to obtain business deals and not to Americans who pay bribes to foreign cops to get other Americans arrested.
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Post by gavinmac » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:31 am

Miguelito wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:05 pm
Do you even bother to read the article? It raises such questions as:

- Is Mr. Seila acting true to APLE’s overall mission, or is he disproportionately directing APLE’s resources towards targeting Americans, because he personally gets cash bonuses from the FBI when an American is arrested?

- Mr. Seila says that APLE’s relationship with the FBI is similar to its relationships with other law enforcement agencies. Does that mean that other foreign governments also pay Mr. Seila when APLE investigations lead to the arrest of their citizens?

- Why are these FBI payments even necessary? It’s presumably Mr. Seila’s job as APLE’s Director to investigate pedophiles and cooperate with law enforcement agencies who seek to prosecute them.

- What does Mr. Seila do differently when the FBI promises or pays him $5,000?

- If the FBI didn’t pay Mr. Seila thousands of dollars, would he withhold APLE’s cooperation in investigating Americans who might prey on Cambodian children?

- APLE provides a list of donors on its website, and the FBI is not on that list. Assuming this is indeed a “side hustle” by Mr. Seila, where he just lines his pockets with the FBI’s money whenever APLE assists in arresting an American, is APLE’s Board of Directors aware of this?

It sounds like vladimir has no problem at all with officials from a rich country like the USA bribing poorer foreigners to get shit done, as long as he agrees with whatever it is the Americans are trying to get done.

I happen to think bribing police officers to arrest people is wrong, without having to ask "Well, bribing police to arrest whom, is it someone I don't like?"
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Post by vladimir » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:53 am

gavinmac wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:31 am


It sounds like vladimir has no problem at all with officials from a rich country like the USA bribing poorer foreigners to get shit done, as long as he agrees with whatever it is the Americans are trying to get done.

I happen to think bribing police officers to arrest people is wrong, without having to ask "Well, bribing police to arrest whom, is it someone I don't like?"
I don't like paedos. However they get arrested and imprisoned is kind of irrelevant in my opinion.

No one has suggested that the paedo in question was innocent, yes?

We've had people on here defending self-confessed drug-dealers and extortionists/kidnappers because they faced justice in the past, but worrying about whether a Cambodian citizen was paid to achieve the arrest of a paedo is a bit dumb.

Consider it a form of assistance. In addition, Cambodian police do not have the resources the US has, so they may need funding to investigate people. It's really up to the NGO Board and the Cambodian government, I would say?

Kids get shot dead in Gaza, people dying because of authoritarian govts, people get bombed all over the Middle East in extra-judicial killings, but a paedo gets arrested and we get outrage. I don't get it. I agree it's not 100% kosher, but do you really care so much about the guy?
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Post by McPhisto » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:05 am

No outrage from me. Do the crime and get taken down hard. Couldn't care less how or why they caught this one or that one. Get 'em all. The next nonce wannabe just might think twice.
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Post by slavedog » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:14 am

vladimir wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:53 am
I don't like paedos. However they get arrested and imprisoned is kind of irrelevant in my opinion.
What happens if they run out of real pedos to nab but Mr Plod still needs the bribes to fund the enhanced life style to which he has become accustomed? Would there not exist an incentive to 'create' some new pedos?
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