Pretty sure that has been the case with the NHS for a few years now; on arrival at the hospital, your stats are entered and it will come back admit/don't admit.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:39 am...priority given to those most likely to survive and recover.
New coronavirus spreading rapidly.
"Not my circus, not my monkeys" - KiR
126 times more likely to die of a stroke tomorrow.
Also, that graphic is nonsense. 26k people died of Ebola, maybe not in 2013 alone. Certainly not 164 people!
Swine flue killed from 150k to 280k people (jury’s out on that one) with a total of 11% to 21% of the global population infected. That’s 1.4 billion.
But FB wasn’t as popular back then (2009) nor 440. If it ever was.
Also, that graphic is nonsense. 26k people died of Ebola, maybe not in 2013 alone. Certainly not 164 people!
Swine flue killed from 150k to 280k people (jury’s out on that one) with a total of 11% to 21% of the global population infected. That’s 1.4 billion.
But FB wasn’t as popular back then (2009) nor 440. If it ever was.
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Did you know that in June 2017 the World Bank created 'pandemic bonds' that will mature in June 2020? If a pandemic is declared then investors lose their money.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:01 amThat's such a total load of bollocks. There has never been a commodities trader with even an ounce of morality.
https://www.dw.com/en/investors-flee-fr ... a-52539926The World Bank's bond sale was 200% oversubscribed, meaning investors saw moneymaking opportunities with the high-yield returns on offer. Most buyers came from Europe, and included specialized catastrophe bond investors as well as asset managers and pension funds.
According to Bloomberg, asset managers including Bailie Gifford, Amundi and Stone Ridge Asset Management are among those who hold the riskier Class B bonds.
The interest and coupon payments made to investors have been funded largely by the donor nations Japan and Germany. The Class A bonds feature an interest rate of 7% while the Class B bonds' rate is 11%.
According to the PEF, around $75.5 million had been paid to bondholders in the form of premiums as of August 2019. The full amount paid in interest and coupons has not been disclosed. The bonds are set to mature in July 2020.
Hi, does anyone know how many people in China that have been infected with the virus have been given the all clear and allowed to go home?
Thanks
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That's interesting. Will investors lose their interest too?Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:03 pmDid you know that in June 2017 the World Bank created 'pandemic bonds' that will mature in June 2020? If a pandemic is declared then investors lose their money.kungfufighter wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:01 amThat's such a total load of bollocks. There has never been a commodities trader with even an ounce of morality.
https://www.dw.com/en/investors-flee-fr ... a-52539926The World Bank's bond sale was 200% oversubscribed, meaning investors saw moneymaking opportunities with the high-yield returns on offer. Most buyers came from Europe, and included specialized catastrophe bond investors as well as asset managers and pension funds.
According to Bloomberg, asset managers including Bailie Gifford, Amundi and Stone Ridge Asset Management are among those who hold the riskier Class B bonds.
The interest and coupon payments made to investors have been funded largely by the donor nations Japan and Germany. The Class A bonds feature an interest rate of 7% while the Class B bonds' rate is 11%.
According to the PEF, around $75.5 million had been paid to bondholders in the form of premiums as of August 2019. The full amount paid in interest and coupons has not been disclosed. The bonds are set to mature in July 2020.
My commodity traders comment was aimed at those people who do things like buy rice from bankrupt countries at an extreme discount and supply them to war torn countries at an extreme markup.
"The less risky tranche of the bonds will not be paid back to investors if there are more than 2,500 deaths in developing countries as a result of a pandemic. Although China has recorded more than this number of deaths, the World Bank does not designate it a developing country.
By far the riskier of the two bonds is "Class B," which sold $95 million in bonds (compared to $225 million for the less risky "Class A," explained above). For Class B, if the disease crosses an international border and if there are at least 20 deaths in that second country, the investors' money will be paid to developing countries dealing with the outbreak.
Although no second country has recorded 20 deaths at the time of writing, Iran, Italy and South Korea have all recorded more than 10 with the numbers rising steadily in recent days. Other conditions for this bond include that there are 250 deaths in the origin country (already long since passed in China) and that 12 weeks have passed since the original outbreak (a condition which will be met on March 23).
In the terms of both bonds, it is stipulated that coronavirus outbreaks count as one of the diseases covered.
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The Chinese Surgeon General states on public TV that he expects the peak explosion phase at the end of February. He has also publicly stated on CCTV that people must go back to work for the sake of the economy. It is accepted in China that the virus will spread and some sacrifices will have to be made.
This is in Chinese so it flies under the radar in western media.
This is in Chinese so it flies under the radar in western media.
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Also interesting. Re Madbobby's question above, do you know how many people that had the virus have been discharged from hospital? And if not, why not?Dahon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:16 pmThe Chinese Surgeon General states on public TV that he expects the peak explosion phase at the end of February. He has also publicly stated on CCTV that people must go back to work for the sake of the economy. It is accepted in China that the virus will spread and some sacrifices will have to be made.
This is in Chinese so it flies under the radar in western media.
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*emphasis mineInvestors buy the bonds and receive regular coupons payments in return. If there is an outbreak of disease, the investors don’t get their initial money back. There are two varieties of debt, both scheduled to mature in July 2020.
The first bond raised $225 million and features an interest rate of around 7%. Payout on the bond is suspended if there is an outbreak of new influenza viruses or coronaviridae (SARS, MERS).
The second, riskier bond raised $95 million at an interest rate of more than 11%. This bond keeps investors’ money if there is an outbreak of Filovirus, Coronavirus, Lassa Fever, Rift Valley Fever, and/or Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever. The World Bank also issued $105 million in swap derivatives that work in a similar way.
https://qz.com/1017805/the-world-bank-i ... -outbreak/
CCP lying through their teeth. The Party needs the appearance that all is getting back to normal in order to co-opt people back to work or risk tremendous economic dislocation, perhaps implosion (leading to social disorder and regime change at its extreme).Dahon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:16 pmThe Chinese Surgeon General states on public TV that he expects the peak explosion phase at the end of February. He has also publicly stated on CCTV that people must go back to work for the sake of the economy. It is accepted in China that the virus will spread and some sacrifices will have to be made.
This is in Chinese so it flies under the radar in western media.
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The BBC is spreading more panic, faster than any virus possibly could.
As, indeed, are many more 'news outlets'.
Some positively scream out headlines.
As, indeed, are many more 'news outlets'.
Some positively scream out headlines.
'History is a set of lies agreed upon.'
Attributed to Napoleon
Attributed to Napoleon
All of our regular suppliers in China are saying 'Monday start work'. I've been hearing the same for the last few weeks. But they seem to be somewhat more certain now, perhaps owing to its being a new month and not just a new week, I don't know.
I'm not overflowing with confidence, yet hope springs eternal in the human breast and all that.
Anyway, enjoying a few days in Thailand, hoping to have something to do when I resurface in Phnom Penh on Wednesday.
I'm not overflowing with confidence, yet hope springs eternal in the human breast and all that.
Anyway, enjoying a few days in Thailand, hoping to have something to do when I resurface in Phnom Penh on Wednesday.
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
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