"Supermarket shelves are near empty", Geraldine Cox lies desperately to save Sunrise Orphanage
The problem with Cox , in riposte to all these well-meaning but misguided eulogies about her, is that the vast majority of the children in her care were not orphans - like many of the orphanages in Cambodia 85% + are not orphans. She was also very resistant to reuniting children with their families and working with the Government Led "Family Care First" Initiative.
Yes, she has a big heart and was well-meaning in the beginning but got caught up in the desire to make a big orphanage at the expense of keeping children in their family unit as more kids meant more money (not forgetting the poverty porn posters), once Rineharts money dried up her model began to fail and yet again she is exploiting a situation of her making to get the begging bowl out.
There are plenty of well run and accountable organizations that help people here and plenty that do not. Even the best intentions can have poor outcomes without robust systems in place and working together with the government and other organizations collectively.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs ... es/7464300
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/these ... 51wjr.html
and lets not forget she admitted to masturbating disabled kids to get them to sleep
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... k-comment/
Yes, she has a big heart and was well-meaning in the beginning but got caught up in the desire to make a big orphanage at the expense of keeping children in their family unit as more kids meant more money (not forgetting the poverty porn posters), once Rineharts money dried up her model began to fail and yet again she is exploiting a situation of her making to get the begging bowl out.
There are plenty of well run and accountable organizations that help people here and plenty that do not. Even the best intentions can have poor outcomes without robust systems in place and working together with the government and other organizations collectively.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs ... es/7464300
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/these ... 51wjr.html
and lets not forget she admitted to masturbating disabled kids to get them to sleep
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... k-comment/
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"well-meaning but misguided eulogies "
Do you mean to suggest she is dead?
Putting up a figure like 85% without a reference consigns you to bullshitter status.
Try harder.
Do you mean to suggest she is dead?
Putting up a figure like 85% without a reference consigns you to bullshitter status.
Try harder.
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Not sure where you are getting the statistic from but it doesn't mean a lot. The reason many kids are in orphanages is because their (living) parents are incapable of looking after them. They could be destitute, disabled, have serious substance abuse issues, mental problems etc. Some children are taken away from abusive parents for their own safety, others are disabled themselves or have ongoing health issues the parents can't deal with.Orphan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 pmThe problem with Cox , in riposte to all these well-meaning but misguided eulogies about her, is that the vast majority of the children in her care were not orphans - like many of the orphanages in Cambodia 85% + are not orphans.
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Ok moron - here is the statistics signed off by UNICEF and the royal government of Cambodia is that a good enough source for you? and yes my error 79% are not orphans.chkai chgout wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:15 pm"well-meaning but misguided eulogies "
Do you mean to suggest she is dead?
Putting up a figure like 85% without a reference consigns you to bullshitter status.
Try harder.
https://www.unicef.org/cambodia/media/1 ... nglish.pdf
The NIS study also provides some additional
information. It confirms that most children living
in residential care in Cambodia are not orphans
but have at least one living parent, with as many
as 79 per cent of 13- to 17-year-old children, or
just under four of five children in residential care
homes, reporting at least one living parent
For a secondary independent study it came up with the same ina separate large scale study by the University of Columbia
https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/p ... ing-parentOne Percent of Cambodian Children Live in Orphanages Yet Have a Living Parent
Nearly 80 percent of adolescents living in Cambodia’s orphanages have one or more living parents, according to a study by researchers at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. The first research of its kind assessing the literacy and health of children living outside of family care in Cambodia, the study estimated a total of 48,775 children – close to one percent of all children in Cambodia – were living in residential care institutions. The vast majority of these children are school-aged. Poverty and lack of educational opportunities in their home communities were cited as the primary reasons for family separation. Lindsay Stark, DrPH, associate professor of Population and Family Health at the Mailman School of Public Health, led the research. Findings of the study are published online in the journal BMJ Open.
Good enough for you? chump
3 of my wife's relatives were brought up in the same orphanage. Meals, schooling, dental care......The sponsors visit and send money ... especially at XMas time....The parents get a share, kid a share and the orphanage a share... A win-win-win-win situation... I think most of the people donating know the score....
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I remember a figure of c. 75% and that would have been from a unicef report about 6 years ago.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:31 pmNot sure where you are getting the statistic from but it doesn't mean a lot. The reason many kids are in orphanages is because their (living) parents are incapable of looking after them. They could be destitute, disabled, have serious substance abuse issues, mental problems etc. Some children are taken away from abusive parents for their own safety, others are disabled themselves or have ongoing health issues the parents can't deal with.Orphan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 pmThe problem with Cox , in riposte to all these well-meaning but misguided eulogies about her, is that the vast majority of the children in her care were not orphans - like many of the orphanages in Cambodia 85% + are not orphans.
What you said is all correct but many of these are reasons for short term separation while the families are assisted to rehabilitate. But lots of orphanages have kids in there for years and years with no efforts made in rehabilitation.
Those in orphanages who should be permanently separated from families are in the minority.
That said the situation is much better than it was 8-10 years ago. MOSAVY for all their faults have had some success here.
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Sure, ideally they shouldn't be there permanently but there is sometimes no choice.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
I have no problem with charities taking care of children in need who aren't orphans, but if 75% of the children they care for aren't orphans, they shouldn't name themselves an orphanage. Transparency.
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Back in the day the saying was " marry an orphan because then you won't have to deal n look after the rest of the family nor the sick buffalo " never realised so many of you did!
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Orphan.
Isn't that what RobW says when he means "frequently"?
Isn't that what RobW says when he means "frequently"?
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Yes, sometimes. But probably not as common as many think.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:50 pmSure, ideally they shouldn't be there permanently but there is sometimes no choice.
Often it is easier to keep the kid in the institution rather than address the issues which caused them to be separated from family in the first place,
Classic case of treating symptom rather than the cause, which in many cases cause more harm than good.
And of course it is much, much easier to fundraise for an ‘orphanage’ than it is to fundraise for community social work.
I have far too much experience in both.
Just check out how much the clinton foundation raised for Haiti and how much actually was distributed ....it is quite astounding.
It is vital to donate to charities that publish their actual percentage of funds raised and funds distributed.
So many great charities and a host of others that have highly paid staff and first class airfare, etc.
Some charities have volunteers.
Some have chairpersons living like royalty.
I also believe there are many with the best intentions but have no business sense.
I was looking at a charity here in Siem Reap to maybe volunteer a bit and found they were making volunteers pay big bucks for the opportunity...Such a scam.
I prefer to just give my tuk tuk guys $5 instead of $2.50 and go to the local Pagoda and give food and a bit of money to the older people living there.
My wife helps elderly ladies she runs into around town..buy them an outfit, some noodles and give them a few dollars..
I don't really trust big charities with flashy websites and huge overheads.
My market is very well stocked other than they don't use their live lobster and crab tanks much these days..
It is vital to donate to charities that publish their actual percentage of funds raised and funds distributed.
So many great charities and a host of others that have highly paid staff and first class airfare, etc.
Some charities have volunteers.
Some have chairpersons living like royalty.
I also believe there are many with the best intentions but have no business sense.
I was looking at a charity here in Siem Reap to maybe volunteer a bit and found they were making volunteers pay big bucks for the opportunity...Such a scam.
I prefer to just give my tuk tuk guys $5 instead of $2.50 and go to the local Pagoda and give food and a bit of money to the older people living there.
My wife helps elderly ladies she runs into around town..buy them an outfit, some noodles and give them a few dollars..
I don't really trust big charities with flashy websites and huge overheads.
My market is very well stocked other than they don't use their live lobster and crab tanks much these days..
I have had many encounters with Ms Cox and the kids that are under her care. I have also heard her recount her stay here. From insulting HS and then being under his hospice for Sunrise Cambodia. The former king under HS’s advise granted her citizenship for her dedication.
I know many may have only heard of her via post and articles and thus form their opinion, positive or negative. This woman has done so much for so many that are in desperate need. Kids that have had their parents or relatives that pour scalding water on their faces and bodies, sexually abused, abandoned, the list goes on. I personally have seen some of these kids and they are growing up well under Ms Cox’s care. All of them call her mama. I seen how she looks after each and everyone of them like they are her own. Those that eventually leave her care, still return to see her often to thank her.
She is desperate to get enough money to keep her foundation going as at the present time, with no tourism and many out of work, more children are being abandoned or given up. She can’t return to Australia to fund raise due to all the travel restrictions.
I truly believe this woman is doing all that she can to make sure that she can continue to support her aid program. She’s did say “my work is begging”. She’s begging for aid so that Sunrise Cambodia doesn’t go under.
Just my two cents.
I know many may have only heard of her via post and articles and thus form their opinion, positive or negative. This woman has done so much for so many that are in desperate need. Kids that have had their parents or relatives that pour scalding water on their faces and bodies, sexually abused, abandoned, the list goes on. I personally have seen some of these kids and they are growing up well under Ms Cox’s care. All of them call her mama. I seen how she looks after each and everyone of them like they are her own. Those that eventually leave her care, still return to see her often to thank her.
She is desperate to get enough money to keep her foundation going as at the present time, with no tourism and many out of work, more children are being abandoned or given up. She can’t return to Australia to fund raise due to all the travel restrictions.
I truly believe this woman is doing all that she can to make sure that she can continue to support her aid program. She’s did say “my work is begging”. She’s begging for aid so that Sunrise Cambodia doesn’t go under.
Just my two cents.
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