The U.K. and Covid vaccinations.
The U.K. and Covid vaccinations.
In the U.K. its the highest death rate from Covid in Europe.
5th highest in the World and the government is offering free vaccinations giving 95% immunity with the most vulnerable first in line.
In a poll today on national TV 47% of the UK population say they will not be vaccinated when they are called
I would think that Cambodia will have a 100% take up rate once all the rich and connected have been vaccinated.
5th highest in the World and the government is offering free vaccinations giving 95% immunity with the most vulnerable first in line.
In a poll today on national TV 47% of the UK population say they will not be vaccinated when they are called
I would think that Cambodia will have a 100% take up rate once all the rich and connected have been vaccinated.
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According to what i have seen on my social media amongst my friends about 90% will take it.
I wonder what the breakdown of takeup would be when split by level of education
I wonder what the breakdown of takeup would be when split by level of education
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Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
The UK refusers should have D for diseased branded on their foreheads so we can avoid them or deny them treatment.Birdy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:57 pmIn the U.K. its the highest death rate from Covid in Europe.
5th highest in the World and the government is offering free vaccinations giving 95% immunity with the most vulnerable first in line.
In a poll today on national TV 47% of the UK population say they will not be vaccinated when they are called
I would think that Cambodia will have a 100% take up rate once all the rich and connected have been vaccinated.
On a poll like that those who feel strongly will, by definition, be motivated to vote. The silent majority normal people will not feel strongly about it, won’t vote in such a nonsense poll and will happily get vaccinated.
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The Govn could increase the percentage to 100% if they offered a free Greggs sausage roll with it.
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Personally I will refuse it. What will others on this forum do when offered a vaccine?
I will wait when its no longer emergency approval but rather when its full approval.
I'm... hesitant.
While I'm normally quick to vaccinate I think I'm going to wait and see how this plays out. I'm in no way against vaccinations and for example I'm getting a shot for the seasonal flu next week.
The Covid-19 vaccine uses mRNA. Comparing it to traditional vaccines is like comparing a petrol driven car to a Tesla. They're completely different and face new challenges and new problems. mRNA has been tested for a few years but the Covid-19 vaccine is the first one available for human use.
Moderna (a Covid-19 manufacturer and Pfizer competitor) decided that mRNA had such serious side effects that it abandoned its mRNA vaccine project sometime around 2016/2017. I worry that 3 years may simply not be long enough to test mRNA properly.
It's a gamble of course but nothing is set in stone and I am ready to change my mind anytime I feel I have reason to.
While I'm normally quick to vaccinate I think I'm going to wait and see how this plays out. I'm in no way against vaccinations and for example I'm getting a shot for the seasonal flu next week.
The Covid-19 vaccine uses mRNA. Comparing it to traditional vaccines is like comparing a petrol driven car to a Tesla. They're completely different and face new challenges and new problems. mRNA has been tested for a few years but the Covid-19 vaccine is the first one available for human use.
Moderna (a Covid-19 manufacturer and Pfizer competitor) decided that mRNA had such serious side effects that it abandoned its mRNA vaccine project sometime around 2016/2017. I worry that 3 years may simply not be long enough to test mRNA properly.
It's a gamble of course but nothing is set in stone and I am ready to change my mind anytime I feel I have reason to.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/mod ... uble-mrna/But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects.
Bancel has repeatedly promised that Moderna’s new therapies will change the world, but the company has refused to publish any data on its mRNA vehicles, sparking skepticism from some scientists and a chiding from the editors of Nature.
The indefinite delay on the Crigler-Najjar project signals persistent and troubling safety concerns for any mRNA treatment that needs to be delivered in multiple doses, covering almost everything that isn’t a vaccine, former employees and collaborators said.
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Australia is reporting abandoning their covid19 vaccine due to hiv false positives.
You know all the figures are public record right? So why tell lies?
The UK's death rate is the 9th highest in Europe, 10th highest in the world (so far only Peru has made the top 10 from outside Europe).
Anyway that aside, I'm also torn on the vaccine. If I was old/sick I would 100% have it as the risk/reward is clear. If I was young/healthy I certainly would not take it as there is almost no upside - as I would already have a 99.99% chance of being fine. Let's keep in mind the average age of covid deaths in 82.
Being somewhat in the middle of those positions it's a tougher question. I do have worries that this has all been rushed through as I'm sure we all do.
One thing to bear in mind though is that while the UK was the first to certify a covid vaccine, it was not the first to roll out a covid vaccine program - that is China. Yes that is correct, China is vaccinating millions of people before the vaccine has passed the 3rd phase of clinical trials and been certified.
The vaccines they are currently giving in China, and the ones given to places like Cambodia, ARE the 3rd stage clinical trials. If you are planning to take a covid vaccine, I implore you not to take this one (yet).
Not quite correct, see news release below:Oh dear wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:52 amAustralia is reporting abandoning their covid19 vaccine due to hiv false positives.
"The Australian government has terminated its agreement with Australian biotech company CSL Limited to supply 51m doses of a Covid-19 vaccine being developed by the University of Queensland, after vaccine trial participants returned false positive test results for HIV."
This was one of 4 possible vaccines being investigated, the other 3 are not impacted by this decision.
I refuse to go out with nothing more than a whimper followed by a small farting sound and a shit stain on my bed sheets..
Just thought I'd share that with you.
Just thought I'd share that with you.
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Remember that mRNA technology has been used in a number of medical treatments for a number of years, just not for vaccines.Alexandra wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:20 amI'm... hesitant.
While I'm normally quick to vaccinate I think I'm going to wait and see how this plays out. I'm in no way against vaccinations and for example I'm getting a shot for the seasonal flu next week.
The Covid-19 vaccine uses mRNA. Comparing it to traditional vaccines is like comparing a petrol driven car to a Tesla. They're completely different and face new challenges and new problems. mRNA has been tested for a few years but the Covid-19 vaccine is the first one available for human use.
Moderna (a Covid-19 manufacturer and Pfizer competitor) decided that mRNA had such serious side effects that it abandoned its mRNA vaccine project sometime around 2016/2017. I worry that 3 years may simply not be long enough to test mRNA properly.
It's a gamble of course but nothing is set in stone and I am ready to change my mind anytime I feel I have reason to.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/mod ... uble-mrna/But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects.
Bancel has repeatedly promised that Moderna’s new therapies will change the world, but the company has refused to publish any data on its mRNA vehicles, sparking skepticism from some scientists and a chiding from the editors of Nature.
The indefinite delay on the Crigler-Najjar project signals persistent and troubling safety concerns for any mRNA treatment that needs to be delivered in multiple doses, covering almost everything that isn’t a vaccine, former employees and collaborators said.
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