Corona vaccinations
recombinant strain will be here in September to a mathematical certainty.
AntiVaxx tards will all be dead in about 3 months.
You guys chose wrong..like with the Q queer crap.
AntiVaxx tards will all be dead in about 3 months.
You guys chose wrong..like with the Q queer crap.
Sorry to derail the subject. Sure, grab your jabs and boosters, have a drink, but no more than a few, and eat your veggies. Follow the example of our great leaders who all quickly showed their support for the good cause and the amazing science we are witnessing saving our human race from demise by getting their shots on the news for all to witness, so nothing to be scared of really. Have a good one, and all the best from here. Over and out.
China eyes booster shots to hit herd immunity by year’s end
Info for all of those vaccinated with Sinovac. Not sure if this is recommended for Sinopharm Shots aswell but it's likely.
Neill Fronde
Saturday, August 21, 2021 20:54
If they can achieve over 80% vaccination rate, China may reach herd immunity by the end of the year, according to the country’s top respiratory disease expert. He believed that booster shots would make up for the loss of efficacy after 6 months of vaccines from China and others used in the country.
Officials in China believe that they will reach 80% of the population being vaccinated by the end of 2021 and with the use of booster shots, they should be able to achieve herd immunity, based on data showing about a 70% efficacy rate of Chinese vaccines.
The expert in China also cited a study that Sinovac booster shots 9 months after a person’s second shot created 20 times the neutralising antibody levels, and 30 times for older people. A new study awaiting peer review recommends a booster shot 6 months after the first 2 Sinovac shots.
China hasn’t made an official announcement regarding booster shot policy, but countries around the world are considering using third vaccines as boosters though the World Health Organisation has come out strongly against it while many countries still desperately seek first vaccines. Still, the US, Israel and other countries plagued by the Delta variant have approved booster shots.
A Turkish study of 30 million people found that 3 doses of an inactivated vaccine like Sinovac were actually more effective than 2 inactivated doses followed by an mRNA vaccine as a booster.
Though China has used mostly Sinovac and Sinopharm, last week the country approved a DNA vaccine by Inovio, a US-based biotech company. China may consider mixing brands and using these new vaccines as a booster shot.
Speculation is brewing over whether reaching herd immunity levels will prompt China to finally open its international borders and allow foreign travellers in. They have largely controlled Covid-19 by strict lockdowns and closed borders.
People have suggested that China should learn to live with Covid-19 and reopen borders, but they have been met with backlash for claiming that closed borders were not sustainable for long. But those arguments may fall of deaf ears for a country that once built a wall to keep its borders closed for hundreds of years.
Info for all of those vaccinated with Sinovac. Not sure if this is recommended for Sinopharm Shots aswell but it's likely.
Neill Fronde
Saturday, August 21, 2021 20:54
If they can achieve over 80% vaccination rate, China may reach herd immunity by the end of the year, according to the country’s top respiratory disease expert. He believed that booster shots would make up for the loss of efficacy after 6 months of vaccines from China and others used in the country.
Officials in China believe that they will reach 80% of the population being vaccinated by the end of 2021 and with the use of booster shots, they should be able to achieve herd immunity, based on data showing about a 70% efficacy rate of Chinese vaccines.
The expert in China also cited a study that Sinovac booster shots 9 months after a person’s second shot created 20 times the neutralising antibody levels, and 30 times for older people. A new study awaiting peer review recommends a booster shot 6 months after the first 2 Sinovac shots.
China hasn’t made an official announcement regarding booster shot policy, but countries around the world are considering using third vaccines as boosters though the World Health Organisation has come out strongly against it while many countries still desperately seek first vaccines. Still, the US, Israel and other countries plagued by the Delta variant have approved booster shots.
A Turkish study of 30 million people found that 3 doses of an inactivated vaccine like Sinovac were actually more effective than 2 inactivated doses followed by an mRNA vaccine as a booster.
Though China has used mostly Sinovac and Sinopharm, last week the country approved a DNA vaccine by Inovio, a US-based biotech company. China may consider mixing brands and using these new vaccines as a booster shot.
Speculation is brewing over whether reaching herd immunity levels will prompt China to finally open its international borders and allow foreign travellers in. They have largely controlled Covid-19 by strict lockdowns and closed borders.
People have suggested that China should learn to live with Covid-19 and reopen borders, but they have been met with backlash for claiming that closed borders were not sustainable for long. But those arguments may fall of deaf ears for a country that once built a wall to keep its borders closed for hundreds of years.
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Any doctors in the house?
Yesterday, I went down for my second jab of Sinopharm:
I sit down, the guy swabs my arm with something, but then I don't feel anything at all, and am looking the other way... and feel nothing until he swabs the spot again. I am not sure if the man actually stuck in the needle or not. The first time, I felt it, mostly the moment after. This time, I did not feel the needle going in -- nothing! Except, weirdly, about half an hour later, the tips of my fingers in the maybe-jabbed arm began tingling a lot, and a mild almost unnoticed ache in the same arm. After that, I had a brief, and very slight headache for a couple of hours...
Anyone know about this? I didn't feel (or look to see) the needle at all the second time. Perhaps he's an expert doc, and he knows how to swab with a surface anaesthetic?
Yesterday, I went down for my second jab of Sinopharm:
I sit down, the guy swabs my arm with something, but then I don't feel anything at all, and am looking the other way... and feel nothing until he swabs the spot again. I am not sure if the man actually stuck in the needle or not. The first time, I felt it, mostly the moment after. This time, I did not feel the needle going in -- nothing! Except, weirdly, about half an hour later, the tips of my fingers in the maybe-jabbed arm began tingling a lot, and a mild almost unnoticed ache in the same arm. After that, I had a brief, and very slight headache for a couple of hours...
Anyone know about this? I didn't feel (or look to see) the needle at all the second time. Perhaps he's an expert doc, and he knows how to swab with a surface anaesthetic?
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Yeah, I did have that feeling with my first Pfizer (after 2 Sinovacs).Orichá wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:17 pmAny doctors in the house?
Yesterday, I went down for my second jab of Sinopharm:
I sit down, the guy swabs my arm with something, but then I don't feel anything at all, and am looking the other way... and feel nothing until he swabs the spot again. I am not sure if the man actually stuck in the needle or not. The first time, I felt it, mostly the moment after. This time, I did not feel the needle going in -- nothing! Except, weirdly, about half an hour later, the tips of my fingers in the maybe-jabbed arm began tingling a lot, and a mild almost unnoticed ache in the same arm. After that, I had a brief, and very slight headache for a couple of hours...
Anyone know about this? I didn't feel (or look to see) the needle at all the second time. Perhaps he's an expert doc, and he knows how to swab with a surface anaesthetic?
Do you really think, all those people at the vaccination centers, doing the PCR testing, etc, are "doctors" ? 30 Minutes training is enough to let everybody do this work ......
I didn't feel my second jab and when I mentioned this to the jabber, she says it must have been an extra sharp needle.
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Well, interesting... In this case, not the usual young nurse: the person giving me the shot was a professional of some kind, a male well into his fifties... I think a real doctor! Either that, or a great mime artist... I must say, not sure if there is such a thing as cutaneous (topical) anesthesia for a jab... but I didn't feel it at all...
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I join those that didn't feel the needle go in on my second jab, too. Nothing at all. No side effects later, absolutely nothing. On the positive side i am glad that i am now holder of a Blue "Covid Vaccinated Credit Card"that allows me certain things that others (unvaccinated) are barred from.
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Well I had the exact same experience but on my first jab. I looked away and pinched myself because I hate getting injections. IV's are horrible. Of course these are intramuscular but I felt nothing at all. I was just surprised I didn't even feel any liquid going in, but again that might not always be apparent like the cool feeling you get when a drip is attached. Maybe someone with diabetes would know?Orichá wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:17 pmAny doctors in the house?
Yesterday, I went down for my second jab of Sinopharm:
I sit down, the guy swabs my arm with something, but then I don't feel anything at all, and am looking the other way... and feel nothing until he swabs the spot again. I am not sure if the man actually stuck in the needle or not. The first time, I felt it, mostly the moment after. This time, I did not feel the needle going in -- nothing! Except, weirdly, about half an hour later, the tips of my fingers in the maybe-jabbed arm began tingling a lot, and a mild almost unnoticed ache in the same arm. After that, I had a brief, and very slight headache for a couple of hours...
Anyone know about this? I didn't feel (or look to see) the needle at all the second time. Perhaps he's an expert doc, and he knows how to swab with a surface anaesthetic?
Of course all the staff at these centers aren't doctors. They also have medics and nurses from the RCAF and MoH and lots of non medical staff.
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I felt them both, a lot. In fact they hurt.
Doc friend of mine told me that while any fool can give an injection, you need to know what you are doing to draw the dose.
Doc friend of mine told me that while any fool can give an injection, you need to know what you are doing to draw the dose.
Actually, there are markings for that, on the syringe .......
Actually, doctors usually aren't that much experienced doing the jabs themselves. They tend to leave that hands-on stuff to the nurses.Orichá wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:46 pmWell, interesting... In this case, not the usual young nurse: the person giving me the shot was a professional of some kind, a male well into his fifties... I think a real doctor! Either that, or a great mime artist... I must say, not sure if there is such a thing as cutaneous (topical) anesthesia for a jab... but I didn't feel it at all...
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Well, I’ve learned a new word today. And it’s a good one, sophomania.RobW wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:11 amDespite your constant sophomania, I think I'll take the word of a doctor working on the vaccination programme on that, particularly when a bottle contains a number of doses.
Rob, please start a word of the day thread. It would be a community service. I feel that as my Khmer vocabulary has increased over the past few years, my English vocab has dropped significantly.
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