Changes to guest posting
Fair enough for me, I've been Guest9999 since I was Guest999 anyway.
However, the Guest999 who venomously became a full forum member co-opting my original Guest name, doesn't post a hell of a lot using that name (e.g. exactly once.). I could be wrong, but I feel member Guest999 is merely a sock for another member. But most readers will never know, as sock puppets do not have identical random strings attached to both their normal handle and their sock handle. Just saying.
(And at least all this will all be easier and more clear when they turn on the scanners and begin tracking the micro chips in the vaccine doses with Bill Gates' 5G towers on the flat earth where they filmed the fake moon landing. Yes?)
However, the Guest999 who venomously became a full forum member co-opting my original Guest name, doesn't post a hell of a lot using that name (e.g. exactly once.). I could be wrong, but I feel member Guest999 is merely a sock for another member. But most readers will never know, as sock puppets do not have identical random strings attached to both their normal handle and their sock handle. Just saying.
(And at least all this will all be easier and more clear when they turn on the scanners and begin tracking the micro chips in the vaccine doses with Bill Gates' 5G towers on the flat earth where they filmed the fake moon landing. Yes?)
You have a situation with a huge amount of just "drive-by" visitors dumping some comment, and you need to approve all of these manually, yourself. That's not a sustainable solution you can continue for a long time, just too much work. Looks to me, the automatic ID-ing is an approach to get these approvals automated. However, you are missing the measures to be sure that that guest ID belongs to that specific person.Alexandra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:13 pmDo you have any suggestions for how it could be done better?
I thought about changing post colors but then guest posts would be more attractive to the eye than posts by signed up members. Not a good choice.
I thought about not letting guests set their own nicknames. Not a good choice.
I personally think it’s easy to see if a guest ID starts with a certain few letters. I don’t think it’s chaotic because I only see it if I want to, like the date and time of a post for example.
Once the spammers find out, how you do the dummy authentication, hell breaks lose.
What you seem to want to accomplish is "anonymous" postings for people with serious interest. Looks to me, you should work on anonymous handles. For example, where people create an anonymous account with their first guest post, with a proper name, with their own password assigned ("to future access the same handle"), though without email address. That account/first-post needs approval and once approved, that anonymous guest user would be able to login "anonymous", with that handle with the chosen password. No spammers will get past that.
Looks to me, with such a mechanism, you no longer have to approve each and every ongoing guest post, and it is as anonymous as with the current guest-glibberish, but human-readable. And, you only have to approve once (or if you want to be sure of a serious guest, the first 5 postings or so).
Forget about using cookies, cookies are going to be phased out, so it's not a solution for the long term. Apart from the fact that people who want to stay anonymous, have their browser setup to clear cookies the moment the browser (tab) is closed.
With 10, no problem, with 10 a day, you have a problem in a month, let alone a year.ផោមក្លិនស្អុយ wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:10 amI think it's a decent solution to a minor issue. It's not so difficult to follow. The purpose is to follow a discussion in a thread. Not to remember who said what six weeks ago.
I don't see how it brings more chaos?
v12, I meant guest identification not the design of the guest feature. Let me worry about how it works behind the scenes.
It sounds like you don’t have any better suggestion than the “chaotic ID’s” I have implemented but please let me know if you do.
A username and password combination is not a guest mechanism. People post as guests because they don’t want to login. You have re-invented the wheel here.
It sounds like you don’t have any better suggestion than the “chaotic ID’s” I have implemented but please let me know if you do.
A username and password combination is not a guest mechanism. People post as guests because they don’t want to login. You have re-invented the wheel here.
Well, looks at me, you try to put plaster on plaster on plaster, and you do know, that does not work in IT. You have to go back to the drawing board around the guest feature itself.Alexandra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:35 pmv12, I meant guest identification not the design of the guest feature. Let me worry about how it works behind the scenes.
It sounds like you don’t have any better suggestion than the “chaotic ID’s” I have implemented but please let me know if you do.
A username and password combination is not a guest mechanism. People post as guests because they don’t want to login. You have re-invented the wheel here.
The password would only be needed, IF somebody wants to re-use the guest handle again. If they don't want, well, they create a new one.
Not to say, even without a password, guests aren't anonymous. There are so many ways to just profile a browser (that it's easy to do), and you can even follow all the sock puppets, the guest posters, etc.
Good luck.
Guest posts have visual ID numbers. That is the only change. When you said that it was chaotic I thought you were talking about the ID numbers, not your guessed perception of how the whole feature works.
I take it the visual ID numbers are not chaotic then?
I like the guest feature. And have to say I think you do a great job of a difficult job.
I think, the whole guest thing is just chaotic. I do not even see, a check that a guest claiming to be !ewkljdfskljdfsklj, is indeed !ewkljdfskljdfsklj and not !ewkljdfskljdfskji. And as such, confusion all over the place.Alexandra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:59 pmGuest posts have visual ID numbers. That is the only change. When you said that it was chaotic I thought you were talking about the ID numbers, not your guessed perception of how the whole feature works.
I take it the visual ID numbers are not chaotic then?
The anonymity you want, does not exist. IF you want consistence, without having to do this all manually yourself, there is no other way then to have a visible and invisible keyword for the guest user. That way, the guest users do sort out these things themselves And the invisible keyword is usually called "password"........
And another thing to be aware of is, when you do largely moderation for guest users, you also become responsible for what the guest user does post. When being tired and something slips through, you are the next one being picked up by the Cambodian police (assuming you are in Cambodia or, when you return).
Why not?
Yes, maybe, or maybe an angry former cop will hold me hostage in a bar. Nature is fascinating but it hasn't happened yet and I think you're overreacting.
The limited info we store about guests is only obtainable through me. We don't publish things that are unlawful.
Khmer440 is unique in this regard. It is the only place in the Cambodian cyberspace where anybody can speak their mind freely in the realm of the law without fearing personal backlash. That is extremely important.
This is not a hapless accident caused by something that you have identified as a risk and I have overlooked. It's by design. I'm willing to take the risk because I believe that it's necessary.
Fine, you win. Clearly we watch you with your webcam and we read your mind. You got me!
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Another fix: When a post is approved by a moderator the date and time of the post will update to the time that a moderator approved the post. For example if a Guest makes a post on Monday and it's approved on Tuesday then it will say that the post was written on Tuesday.
Previously we preserved the original post time.
Previously we preserved the original post time.
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