Southeast Asia is composed of eleven countries of impressive diversity in religion, culture and history: Brunei, Burma (Myanmar), Cambodia, Timor-Leste, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:18 pmI doubt you were cycling around "Indochina".Phuket2006 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:10 ammid-late 70's was doing europe- kathmandu trips.
Early 80's was cycling around se asia
great times, great memories
Off the rails in Phnom Penh
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What does that have to do with anything on the thread Googler?
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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Recall in 2004, listening to the FM English radio music station, which featured youngish western males and fast English speaking Khmer women. Going for a riverside stroll, and to explore the market streets on the way, on the way there or afterwards, well, this white-assed fried little joker said, on air, with a kind of psychotic grin in his voice, "I'm going out soon, to do something evil..." Didn't get it. But things are pretty tame in the media sector nowadays, anyway by comparison...
Strolling, saw some bizarre, deranged and chaotic dusty streets pile up with dilapidated 3 and 4 storey structures just beyond the scrunty little Kandal market, below the riverside next to Wat Ounalom... and nearby, on a street going into the city, an old single story shopfront with a dark homeless interior, wooden floors, and poor young viet girls, a couple of them, looking around 12 or 13 years old, with oiled hair, and flaming lipstick... a kind of hungry vacant look about them... So, things were more contrasty back then... Busy teaming area there by that Kandal market then. But, further out, almost nobody on some of the boulevards in the sparse and spacious Embassy district on the other side of the palace walls... all that is long gone...
But, from what I saw even as recently as 2018 or so, fat rich green-go guys sitting with thirteen year olds on 51, (usually fat rich American or Russian jews, or lost Euro lobsters...) .....come to think of it, of a strange large type I also spotted on two separate occasions, in Sihanoukville, around Victory Hill bar street -- their large mango-shaped body forms sitting next to 9 or 10-year-olds are hard to forget... Okay, many more than one guy had hold of a fifteen or sixteen-year-old, which was the legal age of consent... or, still is?
Lol... and in 2018 or 19, in Phnom Penh, I saw skinny white dirty mens -- from who knows where -- thin white guys sitting with a quick country girl saying the same thing the beach teenies said in Taiwan, sitting beside north coast beach tents along with their squat southern u.s. boy-scout English teacher daddies, "You can't see me wince!"
Younger, younger, up the darker backstreets northeast of 51...
So what has changed? Not a hell of a lot...!
Old kraut sausages next door, getting treated to a 15-year-old oral delight...
Shit happens continuously here!
Strolling, saw some bizarre, deranged and chaotic dusty streets pile up with dilapidated 3 and 4 storey structures just beyond the scrunty little Kandal market, below the riverside next to Wat Ounalom... and nearby, on a street going into the city, an old single story shopfront with a dark homeless interior, wooden floors, and poor young viet girls, a couple of them, looking around 12 or 13 years old, with oiled hair, and flaming lipstick... a kind of hungry vacant look about them... So, things were more contrasty back then... Busy teaming area there by that Kandal market then. But, further out, almost nobody on some of the boulevards in the sparse and spacious Embassy district on the other side of the palace walls... all that is long gone...
But, from what I saw even as recently as 2018 or so, fat rich green-go guys sitting with thirteen year olds on 51, (usually fat rich American or Russian jews, or lost Euro lobsters...) .....come to think of it, of a strange large type I also spotted on two separate occasions, in Sihanoukville, around Victory Hill bar street -- their large mango-shaped body forms sitting next to 9 or 10-year-olds are hard to forget... Okay, many more than one guy had hold of a fifteen or sixteen-year-old, which was the legal age of consent... or, still is?
Lol... and in 2018 or 19, in Phnom Penh, I saw skinny white dirty mens -- from who knows where -- thin white guys sitting with a quick country girl saying the same thing the beach teenies said in Taiwan, sitting beside north coast beach tents along with their squat southern u.s. boy-scout English teacher daddies, "You can't see me wince!"
Younger, younger, up the darker backstreets northeast of 51...
So what has changed? Not a hell of a lot...!
Old kraut sausages next door, getting treated to a 15-year-old oral delight...
Shit happens continuously here!
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That's a whole bunch of tabloid level garbage. You don't seem to understand anything about the layout of the city. I doubt you have ever spent more than a short visit here, totally lame.Strolling, saw some bizarre, deranged and chaotic dusty streets pile up with dilapidated 3 and 4 storey structures just beyond the scrunty little Kandal market, below the riverside next to Wat Ounalom... and nearby, on a street going into the city, an old single story shopfront with a dark homeless interior, wooden floors, and poor young viet girls, a couple of them, looking around 12 or 13 years old, with oiled hair, and flaming lipstick... a kind of hungry vacant look about them... So, things were more contrasty back then... Busy teaming area there by that Kandal market then. But, further out, almost nobody on some of the boulevards in the sparse and spacious Embassy district on the other side of the palace walls... all that is long gone...
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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Merely described what was then... that was one messy area, bro.... dusty, crowded, every kind of detritus.... lol... you twaffle c'est ça, see reality!Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:25 pmThat's a whole bunch of tabloid level garbage. You don't seem to understand anything about the layout of the city. I doubt you have ever spent more than a short visit here, totally lame.Strolling, saw some bizarre, deranged and chaotic dusty streets pile up with dilapidated 3 and 4 storey structures just beyond the scrunty little Kandal market, below the riverside next to Wat Ounalom... and nearby, on a street going into the city, an old single story shopfront with a dark homeless interior, wooden floors, and poor young viet girls, a couple of them, looking around 12 or 13 years old, with oiled hair, and flaming lipstick... a kind of hungry vacant look about them... So, things were more contrasty back then... Busy teaming area there by that Kandal market then. But, further out, almost nobody on some of the boulevards in the sparse and spacious Embassy district on the other side of the palace walls... all that is long gone...
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In coming up to 15 years in Cambodia, I have only ever seen something inappropriate with an underage girl once.
That was a pissed foreigner repeatedly pulling a maybe 14/15 year old girl onto his lap and trying to hug her and she was clearly uncomfortable with it. My partner intervened to chat with her first to understand the situation then to take her away and I ensured that he stayed where he was.
However I have had conversations with countless short term visitors to Cambodia who have, in their first few nights, seen 'underage' girls sitting in front of bars or 'brothels'
I think part of the issue is the difficulty in guessing ages of those from different ethnic groups - initially I guessed all Khmer girls were 5-10 years younger that actual. But also books like this and other, more recent publications which talk about the prevalence of child prostitution, so people come, eyes wide open, looking out for it, expecting it to be on every corner and convince themselves that they are seeing something they aren't.
That was a pissed foreigner repeatedly pulling a maybe 14/15 year old girl onto his lap and trying to hug her and she was clearly uncomfortable with it. My partner intervened to chat with her first to understand the situation then to take her away and I ensured that he stayed where he was.
However I have had conversations with countless short term visitors to Cambodia who have, in their first few nights, seen 'underage' girls sitting in front of bars or 'brothels'
I think part of the issue is the difficulty in guessing ages of those from different ethnic groups - initially I guessed all Khmer girls were 5-10 years younger that actual. But also books like this and other, more recent publications which talk about the prevalence of child prostitution, so people come, eyes wide open, looking out for it, expecting it to be on every corner and convince themselves that they are seeing something they aren't.
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It's only all you old blindered men with rent-a-wives who are able to shut your eyes, lol... What a joke you old sprats all are!
You see nothing, that is for DAMN SURE!
You see nothing, that is for DAMN SURE!
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Lol, I would love to hear your definition of 'old'.
Maybe I just don't frequent the 'right' places.
But I have a pretty handy grasp of the language, I often am travelling off the beaten track and my friend circle is predominantely Khmer - all of which means I often notice and understand things which other foreigners may not. But then again...you probably know better. Fair enough.
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Another clueless tourist who believes they can see things that somehow long term residents can't. His description of the city shows he has never ventured more than a couple of blocks from the riverside.
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Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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Okay, young blindered men... ALL expats are tourists, BTW... actually, every last man of us is a bloody tourist, no matter how high the rent on your snotty wife, you stupid ignorant hypocrites...
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Sorry boys, having a bad week.... lost my teaching job mid-month, and won't be seeing any freshies from Spain anytime soon. Couchsurfing is dead... and yes, maybe I am getting too old for the sophisticated ladies of the Metropolis...
Got to ride my moto 200 kms just to buy some rum...
Got to ride my moto 200 kms just to buy some rum...
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