Lying about vaccination status
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So why not have full health passports. Contagious diseases ST d's ,mental health ,genetic disorders everything should be listed.
V12 You are right if the anti vaxers are wrong they will die of COVID-19.... But I doubt it. Lots of people have been vaccinated still catch it and die or not. It's like being on a boating lake If it's your time and you hear come in number 10 your time is up, that's it.
I can tell the difference between a tree and bush by looking at it. Why is it so many people are looking at the pandemic and not seeing one?
At the beginning of this pandemic most people were scared that it was going to affect children and it hasn't been the case.
Is the goverment stealing your present?
V12 You are right if the anti vaxers are wrong they will die of COVID-19.... But I doubt it. Lots of people have been vaccinated still catch it and die or not. It's like being on a boating lake If it's your time and you hear come in number 10 your time is up, that's it.
I can tell the difference between a tree and bush by looking at it. Why is it so many people are looking at the pandemic and not seeing one?
At the beginning of this pandemic most people were scared that it was going to affect children and it hasn't been the case.
Is the goverment stealing your present?
Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:17 pmSo why not have full health passports. Contagious diseases ST d's ,mental health ,genetic disorders everything should be listed.
V12 You are right if the anti vaxers are wrong they will die of COVID-19.... But I doubt it. Lots of people have been vaccinated still catch it and die or not. It's like being on a boating lake If it's your time and you hear come in number 10 your time is up, that's it.
I can tell the difference between a tree and bush by looking at it. Why is it so many people are looking at the pandemic and not seeing one?
At the beginning of this pandemic most people were scared that it was going to affect children and it hasn't been the case.
Is the goverment stealing your present?
What possible motive would the government - which is having to divert tens of billions in the U.K. and trillions in the US - have for ‘stealing your present.’
The way Johnson is handling the crisis - one stumbling misstep after another - is surely proof that the government would be hard pressed to steal a jazz mag from a corner shop, let alone perpetrate what conspiracy idiots think is some huge master plan against the ordinary people.
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You are wrong with that. In the US 97.5% of the Covid-19 people in the hospitals are not-vaccinated. In the US, of those dying due to a Covid-19 infected, 99.5% are not vaccinated.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:17 pm....
V12 You are right if the anti vaxers are wrong they will die of COVID-19.... But I doubt it. Lots of people have been vaccinated still catch it and die or not.
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Fortunately, you are wrong about that to. Preventive (and timely) health care is the key reason, why the Western society average age did go up some 30 years, in the past century.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:17 pm....
It's like being on a boating lake If it's your time and you hear come in number 10 your time is up, that's it.
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Vaccinations are an important part of that.
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Good points....v12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:49 pmYou are wrong with that. In the US 97.5% of the Covid-19 people in the hospitals are not-vaccinated. In the US, of those dying due to a Covid-19 infected, 99.5% are not vaccinated.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:17 pm....
V12 You are right if the anti vaxers are wrong they will die of COVID-19.... But I doubt it. Lots of people have been vaccinated still catch it and die or not.
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Fortunately, you are wrong about that to. Preventive (and timely) health care is the key reason, why the Western society average age did go up some 30 years, in the past century.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:17 pm....
It's like being on a boating lake If it's your time and you hear come in number 10 your time is up, that's it.
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Vaccinations are an important part of that.
Life expectancy has been growing up until covid, now it's dropped.
Medicine does definitely have a part to play increasing peoples longevity , but it's also has to do with awareness. LIfestyle choices are important, not smoking or drinking and regular exercise.
The statistics suggest that unvaccinated people are main group dying in hospitals. Could it be that this group also come from poorer less privileged backgrounds with historically poor lifestyle choice compounding the effects of covid?
I would like to see how they collected the data was there only one question on the survey and that's whether or not theyve had covid vaccinations or not.
That's all part of (preventive) health care.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:58 amGood points....
Life expectancy has been growing up until covid, now it's dropped.
Medicine does definitely have a part to play increasing peoples longevity , but it's also has to do with awareness. LIfestyle choices are important, not smoking or drinking and regular exercise.
The anti-vaxxers tend to be largely Trumpie supporters, IE Republicans. So, it's not so much the financial status, more the less common sense, less intellectually privileged people, the Trumpie believers. And being Americans, they are very often overweight (IE fat) and have a bad overall health situation related to that, items often being the general hospitalization / death-sentence criteria for Covid-19.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:58 amThe statistics suggest that unvaccinated people are main group dying in hospitals. Could it be that this group also come from poorer less privileged backgrounds with historically poor lifestyle choice compounding the effects of covid?
I would like to see how they collected the data was there only one question on the survey and that's whether or not theyve had covid vaccinations or not.
The data is not survey based, though, just collected statistics at hospitals and the like.
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I read on CNN that a large number of those not wanting to be vaxxed are of black or Hispanic ethnicity. Are they Trump supporters too?
And dehumanization begins with the exaggeration of facts and figures. While in a covid state like Israel only half of the population is reported jabbed, then surely assume all losers are Arabs. But they are poor and not overweight. And these are the 1/1364 of people with active cases while among these again 1/54 are hospitalized. of these 61 in serious condition, 14 of which are on ventilators.
More than 60% of those hospitalized with coronavirus are fully vaccinated, but almost all are over age 60
Surely a reason for concern.
More than 60% of those hospitalized with coronavirus are fully vaccinated, but almost all are over age 60
Surely a reason for concern.
busybee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:32 pmAnd dehumanization begins with the exaggeration of facts and figures. While in a covid state like Israel only half of the population is reported jabbed, then surely assume all losers are Arabs. But they are poor and not overweight. And these are the 1/1364 of people with active cases while among these again 1/54 are hospitalized. of these 61 in serious condition, 14 of which are on ventilators.
More than 60% of those hospitalized with coronavirus are fully vaccinated, but almost all are over age 60
Surely a reason for concern.
If you’re going to attack people for giving wrong information, perhaps don’t do it yourself. You’re basing your 60% figure on a mistake which was then corrected.
I am not talking about the UK. But surely a lot of discrepancies in the news. officially validated or not.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/just-one- ... jieEE1MYnYReport indicates more than 60% of those hospitalized with coronavirus are fully vaccinated, but almost all are over age 60
busybee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:31 pmI am not talking about the UK. But surely a lot of discrepancies in the news. officially validated or not.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/just-one- ... jieEE1MYnYReport indicates more than 60% of those hospitalized with coronavirus are fully vaccinated, but almost all are over age 60
How strange you totally ignored the main thrust and headline of the link which points out that only 1 person in hospital in Israel is double vaccinated and under 60 and that there are only 61 people in hospital with Covid in the entire country.
Perhaps it’s something to do with the success of their vaccine roll out?
I think they are all going for the third jab now, very advanced they are.
And who are these people under 60 who fall ill with covid, or any other disease like cancer, pneumonia, bad liver.
And who are these people under 60 who fall ill with covid, or any other disease like cancer, pneumonia, bad liver.
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