A few years ago, if I am remembering this correctly, it was $1 per cc to pay for import tax on a new bike up to a maximum cost of around $400.
For import duty on a secondhand bike it was around 25% cheaper. I registered a 450cc bike in 2012 and the tax document had around $375, or the equivalent in KHR listed on it.
I heard that the system was overhauled somewhat since with new rates for bikes, and I was curious if anybody can tell me what it costs to cover import tax on bikes in the 750cc-1000cc bracket, new and used.
I have something I quite want to buy, but import duty must be factored in. . .
Motorcycle Import Tax
For my new 125 cc Yamaha the import tax was about 500 USD and the VAT about the same. Out of the 2.300 USD I paid for it almost 1.000 USD was tax. A bit weird.Jackal wrote:A few years ago, if I am remembering this correctly, it was $1 per cc to pay for import tax on a new bike up to a maximum cost of around $400.
For import duty on a secondhand bike it was around 25% cheaper. I registered a 450cc bike in 2012 and the tax document had around $375, or the equivalent in KHR listed on it.
I heard that the system was overhauled somewhat since with new rates for bikes, and I was curious if anybody can tell me what it costs to cover import tax on bikes in the 750cc-1000cc bracket, new and used.
I have something I quite want to buy, but import duty must be factored in. . .
Any idea what import duty I'd end up paying on a 2011 CBR 250, being brought over the border from Thailand by myself? I'd like to eventually get it properly registered and plated.
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My Thai 5yr LIC ...500 cc 2016,,1) ride it 2, 3, 4--6 mons Cambo 2) when due you pay this Tax,, OR skip ,,,and Explore LAOS..........TKS
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A new Honda motorcycle built in Thailand costs USD 2,600 in Thailand. But the same model here costs more or less 4,000 dollars at a local dealer...
According to the Customs Tariff index of Cambodia, the import taxes for motorcycles consist of: customs duty + sales tax + VAT. (Tax code 87.11)
For 50cc or less, total tax is 30%
For 50cc to 250 cc, total tax is 35%
For 250cc above, total tax is 45%
I wonder if you could beat this extortion by going to Thailand and riding the bike back across the border with a fake receipt from the dealer in Thailand undervaluing the moto?
(Anyway, in India it costs 100% tax to import motorcycles, so I guess we have it good here...)
According to the Customs Tariff index of Cambodia, the import taxes for motorcycles consist of: customs duty + sales tax + VAT. (Tax code 87.11)
For 50cc or less, total tax is 30%
For 50cc to 250 cc, total tax is 35%
For 250cc above, total tax is 45%
I wonder if you could beat this extortion by going to Thailand and riding the bike back across the border with a fake receipt from the dealer in Thailand undervaluing the moto?
(Anyway, in India it costs 100% tax to import motorcycles, so I guess we have it good here...)
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"I wonder if you could beat this extortion by going to Thailand and riding the bike back across the border with a fake receipt from the dealer in Thailand undervaluing the moto?"
Doubtful, because the customs guys are not stupid and they know the prices.
Once they start making them here the prices will tumble...just like the Ford Ranger...not.
Or just buy a new (superior) Suzuki for $1300 less.
Doubtful, because the customs guys are not stupid and they know the prices.
Once they start making them here the prices will tumble...just like the Ford Ranger...not.
Or just buy a new (superior) Suzuki for $1300 less.
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Well, this model is one of a style Suzuki does not make. Originally, it was only available in Japan and made in Japan. Production has recently expanded, as of 2020, to Thailand, and it is a high quality thing...YaTingPom wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:03 am"I wonder if you could beat this extortion by going to Thailand and riding the bike back across the border with a fake receipt from the dealer in Thailand undervaluing the moto?"
Doubtful, because the customs guys are not stupid and they know the prices.
Once they start making them here the prices will tumble...just like the Ford Ranger...not.
Or just buy a new (superior) Suzuki for $1300 less.
I would think one could simply write up the receipt as a second hand item and bring it over that way. Just stick on some old Thai plates, or just my Cambo plates with the paperwork tricked up from the dealer... My main question is what would happen crossing the border?
With authentic sales receipts, used or new, from a seller in Thailand, I imagine I could just persuade the border people to let me stick on my old bike's plates on in order to get the bike back to Phnom Penh to pay the duties and license it...
I suppose nobody has ever tried to do this with a "new" bike...
Anyway, I am just annoyed that the duties are so onerous and clearly do nothing to support society in Cambodia, but merely go to pay for the "free" expensive cars and trucks that the regime gives to its spoiled do-nothing generals, cops and soldier cronies every year, lol...
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Everything you have thought of to try and trick the system has been tried 100s of times before.Orichá wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:09 pmWell, this model is one of a style Suzuki does not make. Originally, it was only available in Japan and made in Japan. Production has recently expanded, as of 2020, to Thailand, and it is a high quality thing...YaTingPom wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:03 am"I wonder if you could beat this extortion by going to Thailand and riding the bike back across the border with a fake receipt from the dealer in Thailand undervaluing the moto?"
Doubtful, because the customs guys are not stupid and they know the prices.
Once they start making them here the prices will tumble...just like the Ford Ranger...not.
Or just buy a new (superior) Suzuki for $1300 less.
I would think one could simply write up the receipt as a second hand item and bring it over that way. Just stick on some old Thai plates, or just my Cambo plates with the paperwork tricked up from the dealer... My main question is what would happen crossing the border?
With authentic sales receipts, used or new, from a seller in Thailand, I imagine I could just persuade the border people to let me stick on my old bike's plates on in order to get the bike back to Phnom Penh to pay the duties and license it...
I suppose nobody has ever tried to do this with a "new" bike...
Anyway, I am just annoyed that the duties are so onerous and clearly do nothing to support society in Cambodia, but merely go to pay for the "free" expensive cars and trucks that the regime gives to its spoiled do-nothing generals, cops and soldier cronies every year, lol...
The only way you can do it is bring over ilegally (no tax) or suck it up and pay the tax.
No moto ever made is worth that much hassle and thought process, unless it's a Italjet 180 Dragster or maybe a Suzuki RG125 maybe.
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I just checked the price again. It's 84,900 baht or 2395 u.s. new on the Thai Honda official website...
On khmer24, the same model is listed at up to 4200 new... Maybe a few selling it for 3800.
That's a markup giving them well over 3 to 500 dollars more than the retail price in Thailand, which obviously includes the local dealer markup...
These Cambodians think we are stupid, not the other way round. I would do anything to trick these greedy little pricks out of their rip-off double profit..!
On khmer24, the same model is listed at up to 4200 new... Maybe a few selling it for 3800.
That's a markup giving them well over 3 to 500 dollars more than the retail price in Thailand, which obviously includes the local dealer markup...
These Cambodians think we are stupid, not the other way round. I would do anything to trick these greedy little pricks out of their rip-off double profit..!
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