I use FF + NoScript + uMatrix and it just does let me in. Copy&Paste of the article might attract Google Ad blocks, etc.Spigzy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:14 amCan’t read the article as it’s behind a paywall- any juicy bits you can quote?v12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:18 amNYT: 5+ Years of utter customer misleading revealed.
Tesla's never contained the hardware required to be able to drive autonomous, despite Musk continuously boasting the feature on the verge of being available for all.
More and more involved flee the company: A big brain drain and the final confirmation this autonomous driving is all fake. The final nail on the Tesla hyped coffin did make it ?
How do we call that ? Opportunistic lying ? Kind of Trumpy and his landslide lost 2020 election ?
The same as Topgear did with some small early e-cars ? Drive within the published limits sounds genuine to me, punishing those opportunistically exaggerating the range capabilities ?Spigzy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:14 amOne thing though, the NYT has gone after Tesla previously- notoriously driving a Tesla beyond its range and then putting it on a flatbed recovery truck as the main takeaway of the article. Typical “haha, it can’t go very far, better buy a V8 truck!”. So I’m cynical of most reporting.
I do have more to do than follow all these Twatter drips. News agencies do have a genuine function in the society, to aggregate, investigate and filter out all bogus stuff.Spigzy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:14 amJoking about Trump, but one great thing about Twitter is direct access to people; it’s tremendous to follow Musk, Trump, Biden, etc to get to the raw story, no editing, opinion; you both sides of the story, etc. So again on this one, you can read the NYT article & believe whatever it says, or you can follow Musk on Twitter & get a direct opinion on whether you believe the guy or not.
Yep, so I want other people to critically judge (and investigate) what people want you to believe and feed on Twatter (or FakeBook).Spigzy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:14 amThe danger of Twitter of course is just following your own bubble & feeding your own bias; following Trump to me was balanced back then by also following Biden & Obama; then you pick out your stance from that. As a Limey I didn’t care that much either way; that said it was a darn sight more interesting than following BoJo & StarmerAnon!!
There's a significant difference between "vision" of how things could be and just outright lying, as Musk has now been caught of. Autonomous driving isn't going anywhere, except for limit road environments.Spigzy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:14 amOne thing I will say; Musk stands out as a billionaire type like Branson; always up to something interesting, and challenging the status quo, a David fighting Goliath(s). Following others on Twitter like Bezos, Gates or the Silicon Valley crew is just like eating the most bland white bread you’ve ever had- on the verge of stale.
Be aware, the Merc S-class and EQS are now (in Germany) way ahead of the Tesla promises. Both S-class and EQS are now officially approved to be used full-autonomously on autobahns up to speeds of 60 km/h. Not that much of an application, though useful for heavily congested autobahn stretches. Full autonomous implies, the "driver" may nap, where Tesla (and all other general public-road experiments) are still area/control restricted. Tesla isn't going to replicate what Mercedes accomplished any time soon, despite 5+ years of promises. As the NYT article revealed, the hardware required to be able to do so, is not installed on the Tesla S series.
Bland, etc: Yep, so read the news agency articles