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Internet Privacy. Is it really such a problem?

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Post by RobW » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:57 pm

A couple of posts by violet made me wonder if people are genuinely concerned about this.
I mean, yes, if my bank accounts were raided for my remaining pennies that would be a pain but apart from that, who gives a fuck?
I'm not in the job market but if I was i suppose a couple of photos of me with a straw up my nose from the very early days of Facebook would be a problem and people assure me they are still on tinterweb somewhere but apart from that what are they, whoever they are, going to find?
Oh look, he reads a couple of newspapers everyday, watches porn and posts on K440, like everyone else in the world, apart from the last bit. I don't think there's anyone who wants to kill me at the moment.
Most annoying are those ads for Wish.
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Post by violet » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:19 pm

you won't get much response, Robbity Bob.

the plain fact is that people don't care until something happens to them or to their family/business. May it never happen to any of you or yours.
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Post by Stokely » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:23 pm

K440 has just updated its Privacy Policy - or in other words,, its opened the toilet seat lid.
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Post by RobW » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:40 pm

violet wrote: ↑
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you won't get much response, Robbity Bob.

the plain fact is that people don't care until something happens to them or to their family/business. May it never happen to any of you or yours.
Like what?
I get it if someone attacks your business or finances but apart from that what do we have to hide?
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Post by YaTingPom » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:41 pm

If I cared I’d own a $18 Nokia (I do actually own one) only and get rid of my MacBook.


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Post by violet » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:49 pm

YaTingPom wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:41 pm
If I cared I’d own a $18 Nokia (I do actually own one) only and get rid of my MacBook.


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the reality is that the internet is part of our lives now. it's pretty challenging to function without it. Maybe not so much in Cambodia when an expat with socialising on your doorstep and some ability to say you've got no smartphone to stay in touch with work or whatever, but children, teenagers etc are pretty plugged in. Outside of Cambodia it's pretty much impossible to get by without the internet in some way. I care but I'm realistic that I can't function very well without access to the internet. life is at a faster pace now. expectations are different now. how we operate is different. opting out is difficult for most lifestyles, but not all.
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Post by RobW » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:06 pm

Hoping the techie geniuses will put their input in.
I'm sure the new Dear Leader could find out pretty much everything about me but I wouldn't care not only because I like the girl but also because I don't think I have any reason to care.
Haven't had a decent offer to get back into crime in ages.
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Post by Alexandra » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:11 pm

Of course it is a problem. Like Snowden put it, saying that you don't care about privacy because you don't have anything to hide is like saying that you don't care about freedom of speech because you don't have anything to say.

Client to lawyer communication is confidential. Journalist source protection is confidential. Your medical journal is kept confidential by your doctor. It has very little to do with committing crimes.

"I don't think there's anyone who wants to kill me at the moment." That's great, but there are people who do receive threats against themselves and their family. Not everything in society is there to protect you specifically.

The right to privacy is exactly that. You may not care, you may have no problem to stand on town square and advertise your sexual preferences or what you search for online. The half-dead beaten mother, or the politically persecuted asylum seeker, or the ex gang member in hiding would prefer not to.

Blanket surveillance doesn't discriminate in accordance with people's personal opinion about privacy. It collects data about all of us often without any reason whatsoever. The presumption of guilt is a big problem of the digital age.

Every time in history that a government has collected information about racial profiles, sexual orientation, political opinion and so forth, terrible things have happened. Every goddamn time. "Nobody wants to kill me at the moment", that's great, but your data exists forever and will be readily available if that changes.
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Post by RobW » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:17 pm

^^ Now that's a fucking answer.
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Post by scobienz » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:48 pm

Alexandra wrote:Of course it is a problem. Like Snowden put it, saying that you don't care about privacy because you don't have anything to hide is like saying that you don't care about freedom of speech because you don't have anything to say.

Client to lawyer communication is confidential. Journalist source protection is confidential. Your medical journal is kept confidential by your doctor. It has very little to do with committing crimes.

"I don't think there's anyone who wants to kill me at the moment." That's great, but there are people who do receive threats against themselves and their family. Not everything in society is there to protect you specifically.

The right to privacy is exactly that. You may not care, you may have no problem to stand on town square and advertise your sexual preferences or what you search for online. The half-dead beaten mother, or the politically persecuted asylum seeker, or the ex gang member in hiding would prefer not to.

Blanket surveillance doesn't discriminate in accordance with people's personal opinion about privacy. It collects data about all of us often without any reason whatsoever. The presumption of guilt is a big problem of the digital age.

Every time in history that a government has collected information about racial profiles, sexual orientation, political opinion and so forth, terrible things have happened. Every goddamn time. "Nobody wants to kill me at the moment", that's great, but your data exists forever and will be readily available if that changes.

Now that 440 is your baby, you have complete freedom to delete your own account for privacy reasons. [emoji106]




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Post by RobW » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:50 pm

I'm thinking about changing the obscene password one of the admins gave me but I just kept.
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Post by Playboy » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:55 pm

RobW wrote: ↑
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I'm thinking about changing the obscene password one of the admins gave me but I just kept.
What, you do not like CockSnuggler as your password ??!?
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Post by Stokely » Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:32 pm

I thought RobW's password was "fireplace", that way it can remember it when he logs in.
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Post by newnewnewbie » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:23 am

I think the privacy part is less about the common individual, and more about freedom of speech, and how it is governed.
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