I haven't me the family, but I can say that they run a very well organised operation. There staff are very professional, at least in the Phnom Penh branch, although most don't speak English. I probably wouldn't travel with them, but for sending goods around the country they easily have the best service. Good luck to them.Mr Lovejuice wrote:They get to park their tuk tuks around Capital and they also get paid. I hate that Chinese family that own Capital. Evil bunch and rude with it. I ask expats that hang around there what they think of Capital not supporting unionization for their employees, most say they don't care and will happily continue to use their services. Bloody disgraceful.
Why are tuk tuk drivers beating up striking bus drivers?
TheGrimReaper wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:45 pmSlavedog, you do not belong on this forum as you talk too much sense.
They have a super cheap breakfast. It's a good place to watch the most tight arse tourists coming and going.
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I should hope they run a decent business model, after all they are Sino-Khmer and have been at it for many years now. That is not the problem. The problem is that they are trying to offer their drivers and general staff a bad deal.slavedog wrote:I haven't me the family, but I can say that they run a very well organised operation. There staff are very professional, at least in the Phnom Penh branch, although most don't speak English. I probably wouldn't travel with them, but for sending goods around the country they easily have the best service. Good luck to them.Mr Lovejuice wrote:They get to park their tuk tuks around Capital and they also get paid. I hate that Chinese family that own Capital. Evil bunch and rude with it. I ask expats that hang around there what they think of Capital not supporting unionization for their employees, most say they don't care and will happily continue to use their services. Bloody disgraceful.
Much has been said about the Goverment and opposition on here, and I'm fairly certain that Capital tours/restaurant/hotels is a supporter of the CPP. They have been around a long time. One has to ask how did they get the money to open it up? Who has been supporting them? Blame the people who are determined not to offer their employees union rights, which are their rights under the labour law in Cambodia, the owners.
Some of those tuk tuk guys outside Capital have been there almost 20 years. There are also a lot of them that are police. They are a bunch of real dogey cnuts in the main, and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them. Did I read right? Did they bring hammers? F'in hammers!! And this was condoned by the Capital owners?
Thieves stick together.
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I don't know, can you ask them for me? Every time I ask them, they lie. I've given up.LTO wrote:Just out of curiosity, what is the deal they are being offered?Mr Lovejuice wrote:The problem is that they are trying to offer their drivers and general staff a bad deal.
I tend to believe the sacked workers and LIDACO myself.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/p ... alt-strike
The 40 odd workers were then offered their positions back, but needed to sign a new document.Protesting bus drivers ordered to halt strike
Thu, 30 July 2015
Mom Kunthear
Protesting tour bus drivers were ordered by the Arbitration Council to end a one-week strike and return to work today, but strikers say they will not return until their fired colleagues are also reinstated.
Since last Wednesday, about 50 drivers for Capitol Tours Cambodia have protested outside the bus company’s Phnom Penh headquarters to demand the rehiring of five co-workers who the drivers say were fired for forming a labour union.
The tour company, however, maintains the workers – removed from their positions on July 19 – were let go due to the abuse of an unspecified internal company rule.
An order released yesterday by the Arbitration Council, which states employers and workers are bound to comply, tells the drivers to “immediately suspend the strike” until the council has concluded its deliberation.
Prit Souoth, a legal officer at the Cambodia Labour Confederation (CLC), said he believes the letter’s reference to “all protesters” includes the fired drivers and intends they return alongside the other protesters.
However, Phann Sopheap, general manager of Capitol Tours, said he will not be reinstating the fired drivers today.
“We definitely will not allow [the] five workers back to work,” he said, saying the company plans to “wait and see” how many strikers actually return to their posts today before taking further action.
Sem Sokha, a representative of drivers, said protesters will not return without their fired colleagues, who, he said, were appointed as their new union leaders.
“If the company refuses to accept them…why [should] we need to go back?”
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/c ... -continuesSem Sokha, a representative of the drivers, said that the employees wanted to return to work, but when they informed the company of their compliance they were presented with new documents that limit the workers’ rights.
According to Sokha, the document states that workers “admit to [their] mistake” and that “if they have problems with working they will leave without receiving any benefits”.
“We cannot do that,” Sokha said. “We are not wrong.”
Phou Kok Vann, a representative of Capitol Tours, said workers are required to sign an administrative letter of their new “notice date” – not a new contract – adding there is no plan to cancel bonuses.
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Capitol was the first private guesthouse in the city after the PRK and they gradually expanded.Mr Lovejuice wrote:One has to ask how did they get the money to open it up?
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Unlikely as I am rarely down there. I just thought that because you said that they were being offered "a bad deal" you knew what the deal was.Mr Lovejuice wrote:I don't know, can you ask them for me? Every time I ask them, they lie. I've given up.LTO wrote:Just out of curiosity, what is the deal they are being offered?Mr Lovejuice wrote:The problem is that they are trying to offer their drivers and general staff a bad deal.
Yup. Been there for decades. First place I stayed when I arrived. Shitty, horrible place, but what was available back then. I figured they opened the bus company after years of saving what they made on the guesthouse.Lucky Lucan wrote:Capitol was the first private guesthouse in the city after the PRK and they gradually expanded.Mr Lovejuice wrote:One has to ask how did they get the money to open it up?
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Not much of an answer. That bit we do know. Where did they get the money and support from in the first place?Lucky Lucan wrote:Capitol was the first private guesthouse in the city after the PRK and they gradually expanded.Mr Lovejuice wrote:One has to ask how did they get the money to open it up?
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Wasn't that you in the beret and plus-fours the other day?LTO wrote:Unlikely as I am rarely down there.Mr Lovejuice wrote:I don't know, can you ask them for me? Every time I ask them, they lie. I've given up.LTO wrote:Just out of curiosity, what is the deal they are being offered?Mr Lovejuice wrote:The problem is that they are trying to offer their drivers and general staff a bad deal.
One would imagine they don't want to specify because everyone will think it is a load of unjust bull.I just thought that because you said that they were being offered "a bad deal" you knew what the deal was.
How could I when it's a secret?The tour company, however, maintains the workers – removed from their positions on July 19 – were let go due to the abuse of an unspecified internal company rule.
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It was all very poor and bottom rung at a time. Once they had the building, it would not have taken much to get that guesthouse going, a few plywood walls, thin mattresses on the floor, a super basic Cambodian restaurant on the ground floor. They probably started it the way anybody in Phnom Penh in the 80s started a small restaurant, pool their pennies, open the doors and hope to get through to next week.Mr Lovejuice wrote:Not much of an answer. That bit we do know. Where did they get the money and support from in the first place?Lucky Lucan wrote:Capitol was the first private guesthouse in the city after the PRK and they gradually expanded.Mr Lovejuice wrote:One has to ask how did they get the money to open it up?
Then how do you know it's a "bad deal"?Mr Lovejuice wrote:How could I when it's a secret?
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Why on earth would they keep it a secret if it was a good one.LTO wrote: Then how do you know it's a "bad deal"?
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So you are just making assumptions and presenting it as fact.Mr Lovejuice wrote:Why on earth would they keep it a secret if it was a good one.LTO wrote:Then how do you know it's a "bad deal"?
And we still don't know what the deal was, whether it was bad or good or what.
What make you think they are "keeping it a secret"?
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You would have given the Russian spy back and returned with nothing but a pot of the President's special borscht.LTO wrote:So you are just making assumptions and presenting it as fact.Mr Lovejuice wrote:Why on earth would they keep it a secret if it was a good one.LTO wrote:Then how do you know it's a "bad deal"?
And we still don't know what the deal was, whether it was bad or good or what.
What make you think they are "keeping it a secret"?
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I could be wrong as I haven't been following closely, but I didn't think this was about some "secret bad deal" offered by the company, but about union busting. Some of the drivers tried to form a union, the company fired those involved for dubious stated reasons that were probably just a cover to fire the union organizers, so the workers who want a union are protesting those firings, and those people were beaten by union busting thugs who were likely recruited or otherwise encouraged by the company to do so.
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