Sihanoukville beach businesses given a month to move out
Ream has lovely clean beaches and the Chinese developments seem to have stalled.Where did the shack people on the Otres road lived before. I thought they lived at the south end of Occateul where the mad US Khmer lawyer half built the mansion. I don't think they lived on Otres Beach, or did they?
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I actualy used to own that piece of land (right bank of the river after the bridge). Sold it in 2007.
Far our really ? Dud you own the house that was right there ? That was / is just insanely beautiful up there with the river running at the back of the beach. I think I took those photos in 2010 or so. I wondered about trying to buy some land but figured it would just be too damn risky. What's going on up there now do you know ? I believe the chinese built a massive road in from Highway 6 ? A real shame if they have fucked it. It could have been the jewel in Cambodia if those in power had thought about it...Barang_doa_slae wrote:I actualy used to own that piece of land (right bank of the river after the bridge). Sold it in 2007.
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Yes the house overlooking the beach and the river was on the property but was overhauled after I sold by the French movie production that shot there.ricecakes wrote:Far our really ? Dud you own the house that was right there ? That was / is just insanely beautiful up there with the river running at the back of the beach. I think I took those photos in 2010 or so. I wondered about trying to buy some land but figured it would just be too damn risky. What's going on up there now do you know ? I believe the chinese built a massive road in from Highway 6 ? A real shame if they have fucked it. It could have been the jewel in Cambodia if those in power had thought about it...Barang_doa_slae wrote:I actualy used to own that piece of land (right bank of the river after the bridge). Sold it in 2007.
This whole beach isn't Chinese but the ones after it till the the largest river in front of koh thmei is.
I agree that it is very beautifull but has some negative sides too; mainly sand flies and very shallow water level for a few hundred meters from the beach.
Nowadays the bridge is forbidden to cars and the few kilometers of sand road leading to it are depressing due to a savage cut it all policy from some landlords.
Needless to say development is stalled which sucks as I really wish for a golf course to be developped in the area.
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I realize it's a Saturday but...Barang_doa_slae wrote: Needless to say development is stalled which sucks as I really wish for a golf course to be developped in the area.
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Where then ?spitthedog wrote:I realize it's a Saturday but...Barang_doa_slae wrote: Needless to say development is stalled which sucks as I really wish for a golf course to be developped in the area.
Ream makes the most sense since plots are very big hence easy to put together and the two luxury nearby island hotels (koh Russei and koh krabei) about to open would give a foreign customers base.
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Phnom Penh's Beoung Kak Lake would be a far better place for a 9 hole golf course imo. Easy access etc.Barang_doa_slae wrote:Where then ?spitthedog wrote:I realize it's a Saturday but...Barang_doa_slae wrote: Needless to say development is stalled which sucks as I really wish for a golf course to be developped in the area.
Might be a hell of a job cleaning up the plastic bags everyday though.
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Most of the squatters along the road used to live on the land behind them. Quite a few new ones joined them when people started giving them stuff. They never lived on the beach itself. This is a weird enough story without invention.
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Exactly. That's why I put live in quotes. To take the piss out of the CD article. Even the oldest villagers there have only been there since about 10 years. Most less than that. Tony's shop in the village has been there only 5 years.exray wrote:Most of the squatters along the road used to live on the land behind them. Quite a few new ones joined them when people started giving them stuff. They never lived on the beach itself. This is a weird enough story without invention.
Those locals have done very, very well over the last 5 years. If they haven't drank or gambled/whored it all away. There's always thieving to fall back on. They're pretty good at that as the new villagers can tell you. When rainy season comes, out come the ninjas... Or even if you just get them to build for you.
Don't even get me started with that cunt Sok.
A couple of years ago we went down the huge red road to Ream that starts just before the airport on the left. I was told that the Chinese development was finished and that the golf course was under construction. What we found fifty metres back from the beach was bizzarre, a big two level villa, a circular pavilion bar building and two long motel type blocks. This was all brand new, the rooms had a sort of boutique hotel outside bathroom at the rear with stone tiling and floor, beds with mattresses still in the plastic and the entry was like a shopfront with a hinged frameless glass door and full height glass adjacent. No blinds or curtains or film so no privacy. There were a couple of staff serving at the bar and a couple of Cambodian cars with people swimming. The beach was really long and clean with no plastic but it was really shallow.
Has anyone else been to this place? It was a long way from the turnoff and there were other roads that we didn't use that might have gone to a bigger development.
Has anyone else been to this place? It was a long way from the turnoff and there were other roads that we didn't use that might have gone to a bigger development.
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Yeah, years ago they were squatting on land adjacent to the same road, but in between the turnoff near the water treatment plant and where the road curves around to lead to Otres one. An organisation had built a small school there too.exray wrote:Most of the squatters along the road used to live on the land behind them. Quite a few new ones joined them when people started giving them stuff. They never lived on the beach itself. This is a weird enough story without invention.
When the legal owner of the land wanted them removed, he had to pay the police to do it. A combination of military and civilian police from memory. The squatters put up a fight too, throwing stones etc at the police.
Not a bad business plan in hindsight. Why pay to squat when its only a matter of time before you get kicked off.....
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This story about having to move out/back from the beach doesn't make sense when you consider that the main/only reason people go to Otres is to.....sit on the beach in front of the shacks drinking beer and eat!!
Compare that to sitting behind the dirt road with the tuktuk's.
I presume that if they clear off the beach shacks then the resorts behind the road get to fill up the beach with chairs and sun loungers?
Compare that to sitting behind the dirt road with the tuktuk's.
I presume that if they clear off the beach shacks then the resorts behind the road get to fill up the beach with chairs and sun loungers?
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"Legal owner of the land", that's an oxymoron in a country with no rule of law. I believe that land in Thailand was titled many years ago with help from the West Australian government. In Cambodia the rich and powerful of course have no interest in a fair titling system.
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Interesting related reporting by The Diplomat here:
http://thediplomat.com/2016/03/the-cost ... velopment/
http://thediplomat.com/2016/03/the-cost ... velopment/
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