Russian Gleb Kasyanov Kills Cambodian Girl in Car Accident
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He wasn't very obviously speeding.
Look at the photos.
That's an old suv and for all anyone knows.could have been a cut and shunt.
The hood is crumpled.as is the spoiler and bumper.
There is no.major deformation to the front end though apart from the cosmetics.
Engine.still in situ and wings intact.
Can clearly see the bike underneath and it still resembles a bike a and is not.an unrecognizable mashed up piece of metal.
Look at the photos.
That's an old suv and for all anyone knows.could have been a cut and shunt.
The hood is crumpled.as is the spoiler and bumper.
There is no.major deformation to the front end though apart from the cosmetics.
Engine.still in situ and wings intact.
Can clearly see the bike underneath and it still resembles a bike a and is not.an unrecognizable mashed up piece of metal.
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Motorcycles pulling out onto the highway without looking is standard operating procedure, especially when the village is set lower than the road and they have to get a running start up the dirt track onto the highway, more especially when the bike is illegally overloaded with multiple passengers such as in this case. This is a common source of accidents along the major highways.
Not precisely. He did not say "pulled out onto the road and at some point after..." He said "pulled out onto the highway in front of..." A subtle distinction in verbiage I know, but whereas the former sounds like a prosecuting attorney (or a guilty party) trying to make it sound like an irrelevancy and that the moto could have pulled out a mile in front of the white guy, the latter is what the police actually said, now sounds relevant to the accident, and anyone who actually drives in Cambodia can relate to the scenario:gavinmac wrote:I don't think the police chief said that. I think he said they pulled out onto the road and at some point after that the Russian hit them. One man's "He cut me off!" is another man's "He rear ended me!"
Cambodia Daily wrote:The Russian expatriate (who was driving while white) was driving on National Road 4 in Prey Nop district’s Choeung Kor commune at about 7:10 a.m. when commune police chief Muth Sokha pulled onto the highway in front of his Toyota SUV, according to Mr. Sokha’s deputy, Nuon Savat. (Text in paratheses added by me)
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/russ ... le-115424/
He hit two vehicles, including one that was oncoming. That does not look like excessive damage for hitting an oncoming vehical, or even a slow vehical at legal highway speeds.andy1 wrote:He was very obviously speeding to do that much damage to the front of his car...also looking at the front of the car there is a big V shape dent,did he take out a tree or pole as well ?
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He has only been charged with "reckless driving causing injury and death" and not "unintentional murder". At worst, he could get 5 years.
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/russ ... ld-115483/
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/russ ... ld-115483/
Russian Man Charged in Crash That Killed Child
by Phan Soumy | July 15, 2016
A Russian expatriate whose SUV collided with two motorbikes in Preah Sihanouk province on Wednesday, killing a 7-year-old girl and injuring six other people, was charged on Thursday with reckless driving, officials said.
Gleb Kasyanov, 47, was arrested in Prey Nop district’s Choeung Kor commune after striking a motorbike driven by commune police chief Muth Sokha, who had pulled onto National Road 4 in front of Mr. Kasyanov’s Toyota SUV, police said.
After hitting the motorbike, which was carrying the police chief and two passengers, the SUV swerved into the oncoming lane and hit a second motorbike, carrying a farmer and her three children.
Huot Vicheat, a spokesman for the provincial court, said Mr. Kasyanov was charged on Thursday afternoon under articles 83 and 85 of the traffic law, which cover reckless driving causing injury and death, respectively.
Together, the crimes are punishable by a maximum of five years’ imprisonment. Mr. Kasyanov has been sent to the provincial prison to await trial, according to Mr. Vicheat.
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Indeed, iirc, the people joining teh main flow of traffic have right of way, completely the opposite of almost every other country on the planet, like the lights on during the day/ off during the night story.LTO wrote:Motorcycles pulling out onto the highway without looking is standard operating procedure,
Did the French come up with these brilliant rules, or are they the result of the local space programme?
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Tell that to literally every road user in the country.LTO wrote:Turning onto the main road from a T-junction is not the same thing as 'joining the main flow of traffic' which is done from slip roads and roundabouts.
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Yes, well, Cambodians do not drive in accordance with the law. That is a given. Though one would think that if one is going to be charged with violating the law, it will be due to a violation of the law, and not just the way Cambodians drive. But, of course, in reality, the charges against him probably have far less to do with the law or the way Cambodians drive, than with the color of his skin.epidemiks wrote:Tell that to literally every road user in the country.LTO wrote:Turning onto the main road from a T-junction is not the same thing as 'joining the main flow of traffic' which is done from slip roads and roundabouts.
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And the fact that he collided with the chief of police and the SUV he was driving killed a kid.LTO wrote: But, of course, in reality, the charges against him probably have far less to do with the law or the way Cambodians drive, than with the color of his skin.
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Maybe. We'll likely never know. If the chief of police put the kid in harm's way in violation of the law, who killed the kid? The person who placed the kid in front of a moving vehicle by his reckless actions or the driver of the vehicle? It's not the SUV that is going to be charged with a crime or have to pay the damages.gavinmac wrote:And the fact that he collided with the chief of police and the SUV he was driving killed a kid.LTO wrote: But, of course, in reality, the charges against him probably have far less to do with the law or the way Cambodians drive, than with the color of his skin.
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Isn't the most likely scenario is that the Russian was impatient, was overtaking something larger and swerved to the left into when confronted with an oncoming vehicle?
I thought most Russians used dashcams. Could the driver have hidden the damming evidence?
I thought most Russians used dashcams. Could the driver have hidden the damming evidence?
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No, not necessarily. The most likely scenario is that the overloaded moto gunned it up the inclined road from the lower village, pulling onto the road without looking immediately in front of the SUV, as is common along the national highways and in seeming accordance with what the cop said in the CD article, and unable to avoid it, he hit the moto causing him to lose control and veer across the road. But that, of course, is just a guess. And just to continue with the stereotypical, there's probably more than half a chance the SUV was speeding, but that wasn't mentioned in the CD article.sorrynothingpersonal wrote:Isn't the most likely scenario is that the Russian was impatient and was overtaking something larger and swerved to the left into when confronted with an oncoming vehicle.
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LTO wrote:No, not necessarily. The most likely scenario is that the overloaded moto gunned it up the inclined road from the lower village, pulling onto the road without looking immediately in front of the SUV, as is common along the national highways and in seeming accordance with what the cop said in the CD article, and unable to avoid it, he hit the moto causing him to lose control and veer across the road. But that, of course, is just a guess. And just to continue with the stereotypical, there's probably more than half a chance the SUV was speeding, but that wasn't mentioned in the CD article.sorrynothingpersonal wrote:Isn't the most likely scenario is that the Russian was impatient and was overtaking something larger and swerved to the left into when confronted with an oncoming vehicle.
Did this happen near town or on the highway outside town? His claim that he was only doing 40kph yet couldn't control his vehicle when someone merged in front of him seems a bit dubious.
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Did I miss something? Where did he say somebody was "merging in front of him"?gavinmac wrote:Did this happen near town or on the highway outside town? His claim that he was only doing 40kph yet couldn't control his vehicle when someone merged in front of him seems a bit dubious.LTO wrote:No, not necessarily. The most likely scenario is that the overloaded moto gunned it up the inclined road from the lower village, pulling onto the road without looking immediately in front of the SUV, as is common along the national highways and in seeming accordance with what the cop said in the CD article, and unable to avoid it, he hit the moto causing him to lose control and veer across the road. But that, of course, is just a guess. And just to continue with the stereotypical, there's probably more than half a chance the SUV was speeding, but that wasn't mentioned in the CD article.sorrynothingpersonal wrote:Isn't the most likely scenario is that the Russian was impatient and was overtaking something larger and swerved to the left into when confronted with an oncoming vehicle.
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