Urban planning and successful mass transit assumes that residents believe and follow distinct road rules.
Right now the public buses follow the same congestion as the rest of the traffic, and most of their stops are blocked with illegally parked SUVs. As a result, public buses aren't able to follow a reliable timetable.
As for Khmer Road rules ... the locals don't believe in them, and the cops don't enforce. Especially if it's an okhna SUV.
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The satellite cities are doomed to fail precisely because everyone will still commute to the city and exponentially expand commute times, which are already catastrophic. Satellite cities would work if there was the vaguest sense of a public transport system from A to B, instead PP is becoming like LA but without the 20th century highway system (or subway for that matter). They need to follow London and have a "wheel and spoke" style system connecting the outer cities to each other and the center by bus or by metro and having most of the cars bypassing the center. The current layout is particularly moronic because BKK, Russian Market and the Riverside (ie the tourist places) are all separated by the busiest roads in the city and have no public transport connecting them.Mèo Đen wrote:Why? People working in the city or wherever chose to live/ buy in the satellite cities as they generally provide a less congested and more pleasant environment, yet they are close enough to the city to commute. I think the apartments in my condo in Chroy Changvar are about 70% Khmer owned and many of the occupants drive their cars into the city to work. I admit that commuting by car is not the ideal solution,and traffic is getting worse. However that is what has been the case for the last four years, but a mass transport system of sorts is needed.testytesty wrote: All these satellite city plans are doomed to fail because all the jobs that pay enough to buy a house/shopfront/apartment within are in the city center.
As you say "Phnom Penh needs decent public transport", however:
JICA introduced a public bus system into Phnom Penh and it failed due to lack of public interest. They tried again in 2014, I am not sure how that is faring but generally people prefer to use the motos, tuk tuks or their own transport. However the increasing traffic congestion will ultimately force the issue. JICA are looking into this and are proposing the construction of a sky train to ease traffic congestion in the city.
Report 02/02/2017
"JICA representatives told City Hall officials during a meeting on Wednesday that they would carry out a feasibility study in April on building an Automated Guideway Transit (AGT) line to link Monireth Boulevard, near the city centre, to Choam Chao district, out near the international airport.
“After they finish conducting the study, we will know how many millions will be spent, and whether the money for implementing the project or building the skyline for AGT will be a donation from Japan through JICA,” said Measpheakdey. A figure of $800 million was quoted in September, when the AGT idea was first raised."https://www.b2b-cambodia.com/news/jica- ... ongestion/
Without changes, the traffic will be worse than hell in 10 years time and you'll probably see an exodus of businesses setting up secondary offices in underdeveloped places like Kampong Cham town.
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Hun Sen Boulevard and the reclaimed land along it is way more accessible from the city than many of the other developments. It's joins (at a terrible junction, but let's get past that for a moment) with the south end of Monivong. All the other "satellite cities" are way out west/ North-west or over on Chruoy Changva or Chhba Ampul, which all demand long drives.
I wasn't exactly thrilled with the expansion of the city into a lake/ wetland that was 10X the size of Boeng Kak and held a lot more wildlife, but it received nothing like the attention that jasmine-pants central did.
Here's some BS about it from 2013:
And from 2011:
I wasn't exactly thrilled with the expansion of the city into a lake/ wetland that was 10X the size of Boeng Kak and held a lot more wildlife, but it received nothing like the attention that jasmine-pants central did.
Here's some BS about it from 2013:
http://phnompenhplaces.blogspot.com/201 ... evard.htmlA whole lot of attention was placed on the filling in of Boueng Kak lake in central Phnom Penh in recent years. Much of this was well-deserved, as it involved the eviction and displacement of thousands of local residents. I've written about this in previous posts, it was a public park in the early 90s but gradually became filled in with slums. One reason I think it got so much attention was because it had a backpacker area within it, so was noticed more. The view from the verandas facing the lake was pleasant, especially in the evenings as it was one of the only places to see the sunset in the city, in most other areas this was obscured by buildings.
However, a project that dwarfs that one in comparison has been ongoing for the last few years, and has received little attention in the media. The Boueng Tumpun wetland/lake is about 10 times larger than Boueng Kak was, but as it lies south of the city dyke at 271 not many have noticed. Again, I've previously posted on this area. Boueng Kak was around 120 hectares, but Boueng Tumpun is about 1000. It is also far more important in that the main drainage from the city flows south to this wetland. It has been farmed for morning glory and other plants for as long as anyone can remember, and supported a large community of subsistence agriculture.
And from 2011:
http://phnompenhplaces.blogspot.com/201 ... japun.htmlThis place is almost unknown to many of the foreign residents who spend much of their time in the central districts, yet is bigger than a few of those districts put together. It stretches south from the dike at Street 271 for a long, long way, there’s little solid till you hit Takmao City. In recent reports about its development a figure of over 3000 hectares has been thrown about, and I don’t doubt it. The part that has been filled in so far is miniscule in comparison, perhaps 10 hectares or less. It’s the natural direction for the city to expand in anyway, and so long as provisions are made for drainage things could go well. The eminent architect Van Molyvann has argued that this is the direction the city should move in for many years. This has to be partly because of water resources, which become extremely scarce as on moves west of the city, and are almost non-existent when one reaches Kampong Speu province.
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