PM blames US Embassy as mastermind behind Sokha "treasonous plot"
I would have to see the evidence. If electronic evidence is used in the case he could have broken the law during the raid and that way been caught red handed. It's possible that he was in a Skype call or sending emails to Americans when he was arrested, for example.ali baba wrote:@Alexandra
Do you feel Sokha was arrested illegally then since his parliamentary immunity means he can only be arrested if caught red handed?
It's hard to say without knowing the facts.
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A simple word to describe the current ruling leader is paranoia. The last commune election was was a major lost of face, losing in 3 major provinces in Cambodia including his hometown. If you are a politician it makes sense that you need to tame this shit. A lot of those fat fuckers wanted the status quo like a decade ago, but with the rise of the social media its hard to fool and bribe the countryside folks with MSG and sarongs for votes.
Of course, if you control the judicial system you could just say he/she violated section 1.2 a and shit like that and that nagger needs to be imprisoned from the past and the present of what you said or done. But if the same rule applies HE and his homies would get 100 times the life sentence for what they said and did. But this is Cambodia after all. I am not a CNRP supporter nor any party. But I am telling you the people are uprising against this oppressed regime for the last 3 decades. Maybe he heeded the advice from his advisers or from his children because I havent seen him blabbering his mouth for hours on the national TV these days like he used to. Maybe the Facebook thing occupied some of this time.
Of course, if you control the judicial system you could just say he/she violated section 1.2 a and shit like that and that nagger needs to be imprisoned from the past and the present of what you said or done. But if the same rule applies HE and his homies would get 100 times the life sentence for what they said and did. But this is Cambodia after all. I am not a CNRP supporter nor any party. But I am telling you the people are uprising against this oppressed regime for the last 3 decades. Maybe he heeded the advice from his advisers or from his children because I havent seen him blabbering his mouth for hours on the national TV these days like he used to. Maybe the Facebook thing occupied some of this time.
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That was hardly a surprise Kampong Cham was lost in the 2013 general election.the chicken wrote: The last commune election was was a major lost of face, losing in 3 major provinces in Cambodia including his hometown.
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That's not what being caught red handed means. The police can't just break in to people's houses on the off chance that they're making an incriminating phone call.Alexandra wrote:I would have to see the evidence. If electronic evidence is used in the case he could have broken the law during the raid and that way been caught red handed. It's possible that he was in a Skype call or sending emails to Americans when he was arrested, for example.
It's hard to say without knowing the facts.
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That's not what I meant either. The police has the means to find those things out remotely, for example that's why they are so successful when targeting Chinese VoIP scammers. They specifically monitor VoIP network traffic, among other things.ali baba wrote:That's not what being caught red handed means. The police can't just break in to people's houses on the off chance that they're making an incriminating phone call.
If Kem Sokha was under investigation, placed under surveillance (very likely, remember the 2016 phone call leaks?) and while under surveillance did something that indicated that he was co-operating with Americans, then raiding him while it was on-going would be to catch him red handed.
That's why it's so crucial to see the evidence before knowing if his immunity was illegally breached or not. If there's a phone recording with Kem Sokha talking with some American agent which is interrupted by the police storming in then bingo.
My point is that there's not enough information available to the public to make my mind up like that.
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I looked at The Law on Parliamentarians, which regulates immunity, and it seems to me that it doesn't really matter in these cases:ali baba wrote:You've just described a clandestine investigation, which, again, isn't what being caught red handed means.
IANAL, but to me it seems breaking Article 443 is undoubtedly a threat to national security.Article 5
Parliamentarians should not take the opportunity to abuse their parliamentary immunity leading to
affect the honor of other individuals, the good social norms, public orders and national security.
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where is it on the map? is it a house arrest?Lucky Lucan wrote:No, he's in CC3 in Tboung Khmum Province.Master Donut Baker wrote:nah, he is in preysar prison now, isn't he?
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Correctional Center 3 is a jail.Master Donut Baker wrote:where is it on the map? is it a house arrest?Lucky Lucan wrote:No, he's in CC3 in Tboung Khmum Province.Master Donut Baker wrote:nah, he is in preysar prison now, isn't he?
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Why not? If you monitor a suspected drug dealer, intercept his phone calls and tail him, and then catch him selling drugs, that would be "caught red handed".ali baba wrote:You've just described a clandestine investigation, which, again, isn't what being caught red handed means.
But as Alexandra pointed out, that's all a moot point anyways, as there's the exception for national security reasons.
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Caught red handed means it is immediately apparent to everyone that you are guilty, like if you have blood on your hands after killing someone. If hundreds of police have to do round the clock surveillance for years to find 4 year old blood, then you weren't caught red handed.
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