French man under investigation for luring underage women
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The age of consent for a sex worker here is 18. Certainly in our bars we are definitely not allowed to have any staff under 18 years old. This case is a grey area if he gradually induced her into giving him sex in return for money.
Edited in light of Gardiguy’s post below.
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Called it...pedros wrote:Has all the hallmarks of a 10 (1/2 pages) thread 'over there'....
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You think! How about checking it out before posting? I've already quoted the legislative foundation for age of consent in Cambodia.
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18 is the age of consent between a foreigner and a cambodian.Ot Mean Loi wrote:You think! How about checking it out before posting? I've already quoted the legislative foundation for age of consent in Cambodia.
OML
"There is however, another law against Human Trafficking which prohibits prostitution involving those under 18 years of age. Note that foreigners have been harassed and entrapped with 16 and 17 year olds. If a foreigner provides financial support to the family it may be interpreted as prostitution even if the relationship is consensual. Due to the lack of rule of law in Cambodia, foreigners engaging in sexual conduct with teenagers between 15 and 18 are susceptible to extortion by police, even though they may not have committed a crime."
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Yeah, I'm sure his refined looks, charm and witty repartee won her over.Ot Mean Loi wrote:
So why on earth rush to post this on a public forum?
Smutty mind? Basic jealousy that an older man than yourself can still pull a chick? Sick and/or puerile mind?
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
This is all I could find regarding this, and remember, 19 in the western world is 18 here, always ask what year they were born if in doubt. SmhGardiguy wrote:18 is the age of consent between a foreigner and a cambodian.Ot Mean Loi wrote:You think! How about checking it out before posting? I've already quoted the legislative foundation for age of consent in Cambodia.
OML
"There is however, another law against Human Trafficking which prohibits prostitution involving those under 18 years of age. Note that foreigners have been harassed and entrapped with 16 and 17 year olds. If a foreigner provides financial support to the family it may be interpreted as prostitution even if the relationship is consensual. Due to the lack of rule of law in Cambodia, foreigners engaging in sexual conduct with teenagers between 15 and 18 are susceptible to extortion by police, even though they may not have committed a crime."
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That clears up any more splitting of hairs by creepy old guys.
Article 7: Definition of Minor
A minor in this law shall mean a person under the age of eighteen years.
A person who keeps a minor under his/her supervision or control shall be presumed to know the minor’s age unless the person proves that he/she reasonably believes the minor’s age to be eighteen years or more.
And there's the article 42 mentioned earlier, which refers to victims younger than 15, but in no way absolves transgressions of the articles 7 & 10 above:Article 10: Unlawful Removal with Purpose
A person who unlawfully removes another for the purpose of profit making, sexual aggression, production of pornography, marriage against will of the victim, adoption or any form of exploitation shall be punished with imprisonment for 7 years to 15 years.
The offence stipulated in this article shall be punished with imprisonment for 15 to
20 years when :
- the victim is a minor
- the offence is committed by a public official who abuses his/her authority over
the victim,
- the offence is committed by an organized group.
The terms “any form of exploitation” in this Article and Article 12, 15, 17, and 19 of this law shall include the exploitation of the prostitution of others, pornography, commercial sex act, forced labor or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, debt bondage, involuntary servitude, child labor or the removal of organs.
Chapter 6
Indecency against Minors under Fifteen Years
Article 42: Sexual Intercourse with Minors under Fifteen Years
A person who has sexual intercourse with another person of the age of less than
fifteen years shall be punished with imprisonment for 5 to 10 years.
Article 43: Indecent Act against Minors under Fifteen Years
‘Indecent act’ in this law shall mean an act of touching or exposing a genital or other sexual part of another, or of having another touch the actor’s or a third person’s genital or other sexual part, with the intent to stimulate or satisfy the actor’s sexual desire.
A person who commits an indecent act against another person of the age of less than 15 years shall be punished with imprisonment for 1 to 3 years and a fine of 2,000,000 to 6,000,000 riels.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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She accepted the amount of monye proposed, she ruined her own life.One person close to the incident said the man had robbed the girl of her future.
“She had a job and a long-term partner one day and the next this monster harassed her into sex with his money and she has lost everything and has been forced to have sex with strangers for money.
“This man has ruined her life. “
If she was so innocent, she wouldn't have accepted some short term money over her long term future as said in this "O, so rightful article"..
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Now to throw two more legal spanners in to the works/discussion.
Traditional Khmer marriages in rural areas still take place with women who have just turned fifteen (15) years of age. So they are under 18 so is this not Statutory Rape?
UN Convention on the Rights of a Child - short title CRC:
Cambodia is a signatory to the CRC which defines a child as any person under the age of eighteen years.
In addition to which, most developed countries are also signatories to the CRC, so if your country of nationality/passport is also a signatory and you have sex with a minor overseas in a country such as Cambodia you may also be liable to prosecution in your own country on return. Australia being one such country.
Now go to it legal eagles.
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Traditional Khmer marriages in rural areas still take place with women who have just turned fifteen (15) years of age. So they are under 18 so is this not Statutory Rape?
UN Convention on the Rights of a Child - short title CRC:
Cambodia is a signatory to the CRC which defines a child as any person under the age of eighteen years.
In addition to which, most developed countries are also signatories to the CRC, so if your country of nationality/passport is also a signatory and you have sex with a minor overseas in a country such as Cambodia you may also be liable to prosecution in your own country on return. Australia being one such country.
Now go to it legal eagles.
OML
If you are a foreigner in Cambodia don't have sex with kids under 18/19, what's so hard to understand. And OML, there is a difference in Cambodia between rule of law for foreigners and Cambodians, I think you can probably figure that out on your own. What's written and what's enforced is really what matters.
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Gardiguy
As I've been involved in Cambodia since 1969, with an interregnum until my return with the UN/UNAMIC/UNTAC in 1992, I know the difference.
BUT, when it comes to prosecutions, and trial by media, or slander on K440, it's the Black Letter Law that matters and many on this forum do not understand the distinction. They should be more circumspect.
OML
As I've been involved in Cambodia since 1969, with an interregnum until my return with the UN/UNAMIC/UNTAC in 1992, I know the difference.
BUT, when it comes to prosecutions, and trial by media, or slander on K440, it's the Black Letter Law that matters and many on this forum do not understand the distinction. They should be more circumspect.
OML
Cool, but in the story it says he paid a 17 year for sex, that is clearly illegal but whatever, sure, let's draw the line here for K440 ripping someone online when there have been far more egregious examples on both forums in the past. I'm out of the conversation.Ot Mean Loi wrote:Gardiguy
As I've been involved in Cambodia since 1969, with an interregnum until my return with the UN/UNAMIC/UNTAC in 1992, I know the difference.
BUT, when it comes to prosecutions, and trial by media, or slander on K440, it's the Black Letter Law that matters and many on this forum do not understand the distinction. They should be more circumspect.
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I think the distinction has been missed, which is:
Khmer to Khmer having sex - no problem if over 15 years of age.
and, non-Khmer to Khmer having sex. It is in this area that the legal jeopardy lies if the woman is under 18 years of age.
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Khmer to Khmer having sex - no problem if over 15 years of age.
and, non-Khmer to Khmer having sex. It is in this area that the legal jeopardy lies if the woman is under 18 years of age.
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