Only 12,000 Chinese left in Sihanoukville
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Only 12,000 Chinese left in Sihanoukville
A large number of Chinese people have left Sihanoukville in the wake of the global pandemic. There are currently 12,000 Chinese permanent residents in Sihanoukville.
The government recently released data reporting on the Sihanoukville population, industries, land prices and crime rates.
Last year, there were 16,874 permanent foreigners in Sihanoukville, a decrease of 53% from 2019. Among them, the number of Chinese is the highest with 12,082 (2,322 females), followed by Indonesians (1,727) and Thais (675). According to Sihaonukville Governor Kouch Chamroeun, as of early June last year, there were about 15,000 Chinese in Sihanoukville. In other words, since the ban on online gambling, the Chinese have been leaving Sihanoukville.
In terms of crime rate, the government report pointed out that in 2020 the crime rate in Sihanoukville has declined, with a total of 292 reported crimes, 36 fewer than in 2019. There were 55 drug crimes, an increase from 2019.
In the tourism industry, there were 897 travel agencies in Sihanoukville, and 334 closed down last year, accounting for about 40% of the total. Among the companies that went bankrupt were casinos (33), hotels (106), resorts (7), restaurants (48), and entertainment clubs (17). Among the existing shops, 63 are temporarily closed.
Data from the Sihanoukville construction industry shows that since the global pandemic broke out, the number of buildings in Sihanoukville has been declining. There are currently over 1,000 suspended construction sites, most of them owned by Chinese investors. Only about 90 sites are under normal construction, mostly owned by local Cambodian people. From 2017 to 2020 the total investment in high-rise buildings in Sihanoukville exceeded US$8 billion.
A spokesperson for the local government confirmed the above situation and said that the epidemic has a huge impact on Sihanoukville, especially for Chinese investors. "When the epidemic is severe, Chinese investors have to return to their home countries. They have not yet returned to Sihanoukville due to the cancellation of flights."
At the same time he said that the problems caused by the economic crisis can only be solved after the epidemic is effectively controlled. "Especially now that vaccines are available and are being sold worldwide, this year will be a good time for investment."
A Chinese businessman in Sihanoukville said, "It's all bad news about Sihanoukville. The vacated buildings can just be bought at the bottom."
Another Chinese businessman in Sihanoukville had a different view. He told reporters that most of the people in Sihanoukville have their hands tied and are unable to progress, and many buildings are just built and the owners don't have money to complete them. "Do you think this kind of construction is suspended or under construction? Sihanoukville is now constructing a lot of buildings of this kind. There is no money to build and no money to pay the workers. Who dares to buy it? Yesterday there were migrant workers asking for wages back because they want to return to China."
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At one point 2018 werent there reckoned to be 120,000 Chinese in SHV which eclipsed the local population? I thought most of them scarpered well before the pandemic after the online gambling ban
from September 2019 "At least 6,000 Chinese nationals have left Cambodia each day for a total of around 120,000 departures since the announcement of a ban on online gambling two weeks ago, according to the country’s Interior Ministry, who said the exodus is likely linked to the new measure."
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambod ... 72808.html
that's going to leave that whole place even more fucked up., who's going to rescue these ghastly Chinese vanity projects now?
from September 2019 "At least 6,000 Chinese nationals have left Cambodia each day for a total of around 120,000 departures since the announcement of a ban on online gambling two weeks ago, according to the country’s Interior Ministry, who said the exodus is likely linked to the new measure."
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambod ... 72808.html
that's going to leave that whole place even more fucked up., who's going to rescue these ghastly Chinese vanity projects now?
Some people are trying to save it really bad (new roads for example).Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:23 pmAt one point 2018 werent there reckoned to be 120,000 Chinese in SHV which eclipsed the local population? I thought most of them scarpered well before the pandemic after the online gambling ban
from September 2019 "At least 6,000 Chinese nationals have left Cambodia each day for a total of around 120,000 departures since the announcement of a ban on online gambling two weeks ago, according to the country’s Interior Ministry, who said the exodus is likely linked to the new measure."
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambod ... 72808.html
that's going to leave that whole place even more fucked up., who's going to rescue these ghastly Chinese vanity projects now?
Because they know if Sihanoukville Real estate collapse, it will create a domino effect on all Cambodia real estate especially Phnom Penh. If so, many people will just go bankrupt.
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Yes, most of the Chinese really did leave right after the online casinos licences were cancelled. But there are still quite a few around town, many seem to be driving the most expensive possible Range Rovers. Don't know what they are doing. Probably nothing much. Also, there are still plenty of white people in hideous Sihanoukville, god knows why.
If you got a big motor bike, come on down and try the new streets, which would make a great motosport circuit... really! Wide, smooth and empty. At least in the morning. Afternoon, around 3 or 4, the Chinese scumbums start driving around...
I want to leave, but everything around Kep and Kampot is such a fucking awful ripoff... From restos to rentals... and that pissy green Kampot river. My favorite beach beats that peasoup anyday... But there isn't a single French, Italian or English model here like they have a few of in Kampot and Phnom Penh... But what's the use? In Kampot, it still looks like the drifters, male commercial tourist operators, old men and yoga topknot boys outnumber the Western girls about 3 to 1... So, what's the use of moving there? Oh, but there are some really really nice Russian babes in Sihanoukville, too... All taken by boyfriends...
... anyway, there are no women here in Sihanouk unless your hair is gray gray and your wallet thick thick, and you know the right tuktuk or hotel-casino pimps, or you can stomach the pukey atrocious bar street. Looks like something out of Dante's inferno. Pure ugliness... Or, I suppose, maybe if you are Chinese, you can find plenty of pimps, and those crooks import a lot of their own strumpets, too. Some are pretty hot. Most aren't... The rich Chinese get anything they want, and keep it more secret than the fat Germans in Kumpot...
Then there's the Indonesians in Snooky too, they work in their own illegal online casinos, too, still... and I see a growth in Indians / Pakistanis, too. Probably involved with Ketamine imports, which largely come from India. Did you know that Ketamine is actually elephant tranquilizer...? That's why they make it in India. They haven't killed all the elephants there yet...
If you got a big motor bike, come on down and try the new streets, which would make a great motosport circuit... really! Wide, smooth and empty. At least in the morning. Afternoon, around 3 or 4, the Chinese scumbums start driving around...
I want to leave, but everything around Kep and Kampot is such a fucking awful ripoff... From restos to rentals... and that pissy green Kampot river. My favorite beach beats that peasoup anyday... But there isn't a single French, Italian or English model here like they have a few of in Kampot and Phnom Penh... But what's the use? In Kampot, it still looks like the drifters, male commercial tourist operators, old men and yoga topknot boys outnumber the Western girls about 3 to 1... So, what's the use of moving there? Oh, but there are some really really nice Russian babes in Sihanoukville, too... All taken by boyfriends...
... anyway, there are no women here in Sihanouk unless your hair is gray gray and your wallet thick thick, and you know the right tuktuk or hotel-casino pimps, or you can stomach the pukey atrocious bar street. Looks like something out of Dante's inferno. Pure ugliness... Or, I suppose, maybe if you are Chinese, you can find plenty of pimps, and those crooks import a lot of their own strumpets, too. Some are pretty hot. Most aren't... The rich Chinese get anything they want, and keep it more secret than the fat Germans in Kumpot...
Then there's the Indonesians in Snooky too, they work in their own illegal online casinos, too, still... and I see a growth in Indians / Pakistanis, too. Probably involved with Ketamine imports, which largely come from India. Did you know that Ketamine is actually elephant tranquilizer...? That's why they make it in India. They haven't killed all the elephants there yet...
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Wow thanks for the long report.Orichá wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:09 pmYes, most of the Chinese really did leave right after the online casinos licences were cancelled. But there are still quite a few around town, many seem to be driving the most expensive possible Range Rovers. Don't know what they are doing. Probably nothing much. Also, there are still plenty of white people in hideous Sihanoukville, god knows why.
If you got a big motor bike, come on down and try the new streets, which would make a great motosport circuit... really! Wide, smooth and empty. At least in the morning. Afternoon, around 3 or 4, the Chinese scumbums start driving around...
I want to leave, but everything around Kep and Kampot is such a fucking awful ripoff... From restos to rentals... and that pissy green Kampot river. My favorite beach beats that peasoup anyday... But there isn't a single French, Italian or English model here like they have a few of in Kampot and Phnom Penh... But what's the use? In Kampot, it still looks like the drifters, male commercial tourist operators, old men and yoga topknot boys outnumber the Western girls about 3 to 1... So, what's the use of moving there? Oh, but there are some really really nice Russian babes in Sihanoukville, too... All taken by boyfriends...
... anyway, there are no women here in Sihanouk unless your hair is gray gray and your wallet thick thick, and you know the right tuktuk or hotel-casino pimps, or you can stomach the pukey atrocious bar street. Looks like something out of Dante's inferno. Pure ugliness... Or, I suppose, maybe if you are Chinese, you can find plenty of pimps, and those crooks import a lot of their own strumpets, too. Some are pretty hot. Most aren't... The rich Chinese get anything they want, and keep it more secret than the fat Germans in Kumpot...
Then there's the Indonesians in Snooky too, they work in their own illegal online casinos, too, still... and I see a growth in Indians / Pakistanis, too. Probably involved with Ketamine imports, which largely come from India. Did you know that Ketamine is actually elephant tranquilizer...? That's why they make it in India. They haven't killed all the elephants there yet...
Yes if you want white chicks, plenty in TTP especially in friday night.
I guess you can find what you need
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No French, Italian or English models hanging about in Snooky. Huh. Who'd have thought? And if by models he means very attractive, well can't say I have seen many (any?) in Kampot or PP either.
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I think you've been meeting the wrong type of white chicks. I know it's an unpopular opinion on here but I don't go for this "Yellow Fever" thing, an attractive woman can be any color for all I care. Local women are great but foreign women who are usually a bit more worldly can be fantastic too. I like all of them.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Hmm, In my experience most Russians/Ukrainian/Belarussian girls don't have boyfriends. And there's lot of lonely Filipino girls too in Sihanoukville. And you forgot the Vietnamese girls, though they seem to hang out with rich Chinese guys. But yes, not that many western girls in city.Orichá wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:09 pmYes, most of the Chinese really did leave right after the online casinos licences were cancelled. But there are still quite a few around town, many seem to be driving the most expensive possible Range Rovers. Don't know what they are doing. Probably nothing much. Also, there are still plenty of white people in hideous Sihanoukville, god knows why.
If you got a big motor bike, come on down and try the new streets, which would make a great motosport circuit... really! Wide, smooth and empty. At least in the morning. Afternoon, around 3 or 4, the Chinese scumbums start driving around...
I want to leave, but everything around Kep and Kampot is such a fucking awful ripoff... From restos to rentals... and that pissy green Kampot river. My favorite beach beats that peasoup anyday... But there isn't a single French, Italian or English model here like they have a few of in Kampot and Phnom Penh... But what's the use? In Kampot, it still looks like the drifters, male commercial tourist operators, old men and yoga topknot boys outnumber the Western girls about 3 to 1... So, what's the use of moving there? Oh, but there are some really really nice Russian babes in Sihanoukville, too... All taken by boyfriends...
... anyway, there are no women here in Sihanouk unless your hair is gray gray and your wallet thick thick, and you know the right tuktuk or hotel-casino pimps, or you can stomach the pukey atrocious bar street. Looks like something out of Dante's inferno. Pure ugliness... Or, I suppose, maybe if you are Chinese, you can find plenty of pimps, and those crooks import a lot of their own strumpets, too. Some are pretty hot. Most aren't... The rich Chinese get anything they want, and keep it more secret than the fat Germans in Kumpot...
Then there's the Indonesians in Snooky too, they work in their own illegal online casinos, too, still... and I see a growth in Indians / Pakistanis, too. Probably involved with Ketamine imports, which largely come from India. Did you know that Ketamine is actually elephant tranquilizer...? That's why they make it in India. They haven't killed all the elephants there yet...
I have been wondering why all those Indian/Pakistani guys have come too? But one good things is that now city has couple very very nice indian restaurants.
I dont think this pandemic will be over until they get these mutations nullified.
They dont have any vacvine for them yet.
I expect the banks to be in crisis 2 years from the start of the pandemic.
Thats everywhere where theres no ongoing government pandemic economic support.
Cambodia may have escaped the pandemic but it wont escape the financial crisis.
They dont have any vacvine for them yet.
I expect the banks to be in crisis 2 years from the start of the pandemic.
Thats everywhere where theres no ongoing government pandemic economic support.
Cambodia may have escaped the pandemic but it wont escape the financial crisis.
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Not any more... All the Russian girls here in Sihanouk are either married or imported to work in Casinos, so... And from what I have seen lately, it seems like they are importing couples now, too, I don't know... The Pilipinas tend to get hooked up with fattest, richest guy they can find, usually doing real estate... Same as Kumpot... Fat and old, you got a rent-a-wife fo sho... So, I don't think so... Lol...china_love wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:38 am
Hmm, In my experience most Russians/Ukrainian/Belarussian girls don't have boyfriends. And there's lot of lonely Filipino girls too in Sihanoukville. And you forgot the Vietnamese girls, though they seem to hang out with rich Chinese guys. But yes, not that many western girls in city.
I have been wondering why all those Indian/Pakistani guys have come too? But one good things is that now city has couple very very nice indian restaurants.
The Indian resto on the road down to the pier is very nice, I have eaten there once. But the kitchen was not very sanitary, yikes...
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I can confirm all of Orichá’s reporting.
While I had to move out after 15 years due to the demise of my kids school I still pay monthly visits.
What intrigues me the most is the new expats coming into town, they seem from a new species that I cannot define.
While I had to move out after 15 years due to the demise of my kids school I still pay monthly visits.
What intrigues me the most is the new expats coming into town, they seem from a new species that I cannot define.
Are there really so many Thais and Indians and Pakistanis? And so few Chinese compared to before? Will the buildings ever get finished? If the roads are good and theres a huge choice of rentals and a mall and sewage farm it might be an OK place to live again.
Of course.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:24 amI think you've been meeting the wrong type of white chicks. I know it's an unpopular opinion on here but I don't go for this "Yellow Fever" thing, an attractive woman can be any color for all I care. Local women are great but foreign women who are usually a bit more worldly can be fantastic too. I like all of them.
I find Asian women’s features attractive but there’s also some western women (Kampot) who are pretty hot too and at least one has got something in common with them (English language) not that they’d be interested of course as they’re all under 30!
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