Mother Nature and the UN
To stay on the subject of 'Mother Nature" i suggest you take a look at their website :
While it claims to be a Dot.Org at the bottom of their website you'll see what it really is:
Mother Nature Cambodia Inc. INC like in Corporation !!!
Their program shows what their aim is, and it's not only protecting nature and keep it as it is (show me one country in the world that can afford and is willing to keep it's nature of what it was/is without risking to feed it's people)
The Mother Nature Program
Mother Nature Cambodia is fighting to put an end to the systematic destruction of Cambodia's natural heritage, done usually under the facade of 'development', and 'economic growth' but ultimately nothing but a means to enrich the country's dictatorial elite.
We have proven time and again to be highly effective at exposing the corruption and abuse of power that lies behind this destructive resource mining. We continue to embolden Cambodian activists so that they can take-on the formidable struggle of holding elites to account for their ill- gotten gains. Our inspiration is getting others involved too, and building an unstoppable movement.
Cambodia has been sliding into a fully-fledged dictatorship for years. Those willing to speak up and tell the truth suffer relentless harassment and oppression of their freedoms. Despite the risks, we continue to speak out against the lies and oppression.
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Cambodia has done pretty well in lifting it's people out of poverty compared to the end of the Khmer Rouge Era. Still not perfect but on a promising trajectory. Calling Cambodia a full-fledged dictatorship puts it on equal with North Korea which couldn't be more absurd. Mother Nature also claims to financially support Khmer that work with them.
Provide training, financial support, advice and opportunities for environmental and human rights activists in Cambodia;
So the question is where this money is supposed to come from ? Mother Nature's website is signed with mothernature.inc so you figure.
While it claims to be a Dot.Org at the bottom of their website you'll see what it really is:
Mother Nature Cambodia Inc. INC like in Corporation !!!
Their program shows what their aim is, and it's not only protecting nature and keep it as it is (show me one country in the world that can afford and is willing to keep it's nature of what it was/is without risking to feed it's people)
The Mother Nature Program
Mother Nature Cambodia is fighting to put an end to the systematic destruction of Cambodia's natural heritage, done usually under the facade of 'development', and 'economic growth' but ultimately nothing but a means to enrich the country's dictatorial elite.
We have proven time and again to be highly effective at exposing the corruption and abuse of power that lies behind this destructive resource mining. We continue to embolden Cambodian activists so that they can take-on the formidable struggle of holding elites to account for their ill- gotten gains. Our inspiration is getting others involved too, and building an unstoppable movement.
Cambodia has been sliding into a fully-fledged dictatorship for years. Those willing to speak up and tell the truth suffer relentless harassment and oppression of their freedoms. Despite the risks, we continue to speak out against the lies and oppression.
unquote
Cambodia has done pretty well in lifting it's people out of poverty compared to the end of the Khmer Rouge Era. Still not perfect but on a promising trajectory. Calling Cambodia a full-fledged dictatorship puts it on equal with North Korea which couldn't be more absurd. Mother Nature also claims to financially support Khmer that work with them.
Provide training, financial support, advice and opportunities for environmental and human rights activists in Cambodia;
So the question is where this money is supposed to come from ? Mother Nature's website is signed with mothernature.inc so you figure.
the bulk of the people who want change arent barang writing on forums but poverty stricken Cambodians that live here and they dont have the option to leavebargain basement wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:42 pmIsn't that what every media company does?
This government is far better than so many others who tout themselves as world champions of 'democracy'.
People with options can simply leave, not being sarcastic, but I do wonder why so many stay when they are obviously so unhappy. Life is short.
Cambodians are friendly, violent crime is low, life is affordable, the govt has an excellent record wrt COVID (compare Thailand/America/Italy/UK/Japan).
I agree wrt traffic and noise, but nobody claimed it was perfect.
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A man of your calibre doesn't know that "Incorporation is the formation of a new corporation. The corporation may be a business, a nonprofit organization, sports club, or a government of a new city or town." ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_(business)
I guess your ability to see thru all the lies the sheeple are brainwashed with gives you a feeling of superiority. That's what motivates most conspiracy theorists. Next you'll say that the unknown powers behind MN are the Jewish cabal that secretly runs the world.
I guess your ability to see thru all the lies the sheeple are brainwashed with gives you a feeling of superiority. That's what motivates most conspiracy theorists. Next you'll say that the unknown powers behind MN are the Jewish cabal that secretly runs the world.
difficult to follow threads on expat forums these days but it is difficult to understand how trying to prevent environmental destruction somehow allows someone access to state secrets and turns them into spies. unless that state secret is the destruction of the environment
As a matter of interest, do they back up that claim by making sure most of the donated funds reach intended people?Expatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:36 pmMother Nature also claims to financially support Khmer that work with them.
Provide training, financial support, advice and opportunities for environmental and human rights activists in Cambodia;
What percentage of donations do local people get compared to senior (expat?) management?
Usually NGO expats get huge salaries and benefits, while local employees get a pittance
The proof of the pudding
@baby carot. Financial Transparency of NGO is always a bit murky. Usually most expenses "whatever they are" end up in the "ADMINISTRATION COSTS" Section . That report you are usually see after a year or more passed by. Unicef for example had 10 fundraiser/staff from europe travelling to Cambodia on their 'Water works" mission. The travel blog turned out that it was just another vacation trip that lasted 8 days and was paid with donor funds to help Cambodia's Water problems. Unicef denied a more transparent / detailed report on how much actually was spent but you can figure yourself. This is symptomatic throughout the Aid Industry and the reason why they fought against the NGO Transparency Law in Cambodia for almost 2 decades.... and still fighting it.
the proof of the pudding was that they were hugely successful at making cambodians and others aware of the destruction going on in the country. I dont care what they pay themselves. they are doing the job they set out to do very well. so well that the government felt obliged to have them locked up.baby carrot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:20 amAs a matter of interest, do they back up that claim by making sure most of the donated funds reach intended people?Expatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:36 pmMother Nature also claims to financially support Khmer that work with them.
Provide training, financial support, advice and opportunities for environmental and human rights activists in Cambodia;
What percentage of donations do local people get compared to senior (expat?) management?
Usually NGO expats get huge salaries and benefits, while local employees get a pittance
The proof of the pudding
That's some mind reading.Whoknows wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:08 amdifficult to follow threads on expat forums these days but it is difficult to understand how trying to prevent environmental destruction somehow allows someone access to state secrets and turns them into spies. unless that state secret is the destruction of the environment
There's plenty of evidence of foreign powers using wedge issues to drive political change, especially before elections. The CIA do it all the time.
I read that none of the money raised by MN went to local people but instead went towards an eco travel lodge, bikes and motorcycles.baby carrot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:20 amAs a matter of interest, do they back up that claim by making sure most of the donated funds reach intended people?Expatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:36 pmMother Nature also claims to financially support Khmer that work with them.
Provide training, financial support, advice and opportunities for environmental and human rights activists in Cambodia;
What percentage of donations do local people get compared to senior (expat?) management?
Usually NGO expats get huge salaries and benefits, while local employees get a pittance
The proof of the pudding
@guest. Where did you read that info ? It wouldn't surprise me that Mother Nature's funding was used for tourism related business. Another spaniard, active in Cambodia was and perhaps still is Andres Torres CEO/Founder of globalhumanitaria.org who back in 2006 promoted his one-off Worldship campaign. 3 Huge Cruise Ships with a price tag of more than a billion dollar each were planned to sail the 3 major oceans with loads of wealthy donors on board that the org could fleece. The project collapsed because even a blind person could see through the scam.
this is what the archive.org kept for you to view: https://web.archive.org/web/20131207034 ... 1&aut=3838 . Andres Torres of globalhumanitaria.org got cold feet before abandoning this project. He also seized all funding to the notorious anti-pedophile org. aplecambodia.org which was founded by french backpacker Thierry Darnaudet. Torres wanted to get out and cut all ties because he got evidence that the witchhunt aple started did clearly not target all pedophelia in Cambodia of which there was plenty (but mostly of domestic nature like in most countries around the world) but only those that could be sold to the western media. Aple's own former country director Hang Vibol was arrested and jailed himself for child abuse charges ! Since Aple's founder has no degree or proof of any nature to work with children he dumped the org. on his khmer deputy S.Seila which is still in charge of the org today and been on a holiday trip in Dubai, Oman, India and France using the cash he made in Cambodia.
this is what the archive.org kept for you to view: https://web.archive.org/web/20131207034 ... 1&aut=3838 . Andres Torres of globalhumanitaria.org got cold feet before abandoning this project. He also seized all funding to the notorious anti-pedophile org. aplecambodia.org which was founded by french backpacker Thierry Darnaudet. Torres wanted to get out and cut all ties because he got evidence that the witchhunt aple started did clearly not target all pedophelia in Cambodia of which there was plenty (but mostly of domestic nature like in most countries around the world) but only those that could be sold to the western media. Aple's own former country director Hang Vibol was arrested and jailed himself for child abuse charges ! Since Aple's founder has no degree or proof of any nature to work with children he dumped the org. on his khmer deputy S.Seila which is still in charge of the org today and been on a holiday trip in Dubai, Oman, India and France using the cash he made in Cambodia.
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Are you proposing that it is not possible to have an NGO in Cambodia that advocates for an issue that runs counter to government practice without it being an agent of a foreign power?Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:36 pmThere's plenty of evidence of foreign powers using wedge issues to drive political change, especially before elections. The CIA do it all the time.
No.Prahok wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:27 pmAre you proposing that it is not possible to have an NGO in Cambodia that advocates for an issue that runs counter to government practice without it being an agent of a foreign power?Guest wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:36 pmThere's plenty of evidence of foreign powers using wedge issues to drive political change, especially before elections. The CIA do it all the time.
hmmm. WWF involved?OP wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:45 amYou've got to wonder with all the emphasis on GIS and the actions of the Wildlife Alliance, for example, are not tied into advancing the UN Sustainable Development Goals because a big part of that pre-work everywhere, around the world, involves GIS mapping of significant natural resources or areas. Around the world indigenous people have been complaining about these measures being part of a land grab.
Was this GIS work conducted by Mother Nature? Surely not. Who undertook it, the US government?
If Mother Nature is just a plucky little grassroots activist group, how is it that they can afford to conduct some of the most expensive surveying in the world outside of deep sea oil and gas surveying?
As a former surveyor (although not GIS) myself this article raised a lot of questions for me.
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