The US is bullying Cambodia - Tom Fowdy
The US is bullying Cambodia - Tom Fowdy
"Sceptical of neighbouring Hanoi and having only a small coastline, Phnom Penh is not a party to the South China Sea disputes and subsequently has no need to hedge military ties with the US as some maritime regional countries have done. Instead, it has been happy to embrace China as a vehicle of political support and economic development. The two countries signed a bilateral trade deal last year.
As one can imagine, the United States is not keen on this. As a small country leaning towards China, Washington’s foreign policy is increasingly leaning towards attempting to bully or strong arm Cambodia into accepting its foreign policy preferences.
Yesterday, a group of bipartisan US senators including Marco Rubio, Dick Durbin, and Ed Markey introduced the “Cambodia Democracy and Human Rights Act” – pretty standard fare for these senators – which demands sanctions on Cambodian officials for alleged human rights abuses, and also demands an inquiry into “China's activities in Cambodia” and how Beijing “may be undermining democracy and human rights” in the country."
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/531354-us-bull ... dia-china/
As one can imagine, the United States is not keen on this. As a small country leaning towards China, Washington’s foreign policy is increasingly leaning towards attempting to bully or strong arm Cambodia into accepting its foreign policy preferences.
Yesterday, a group of bipartisan US senators including Marco Rubio, Dick Durbin, and Ed Markey introduced the “Cambodia Democracy and Human Rights Act” – pretty standard fare for these senators – which demands sanctions on Cambodian officials for alleged human rights abuses, and also demands an inquiry into “China's activities in Cambodia” and how Beijing “may be undermining democracy and human rights” in the country."
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/531354-us-bull ... dia-china/
@Ivan. Yes, the US foreign polictics on Cambodia always include the same US Senator-Idiots like Rubio. The Sanction Cambodia Weapon is unlikely to change anything eventhough the US managed to get Cambodia more entraped into the Export to the US game. Current US Ambassador Murphy was a Peace Corps volunteer in Cameroon and spearheaded the enhance the US-Cambodia Trade/Investment from his first day on in office. Perhaps he, too followed the John Perkins Experience:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessio ... ic_Hit_Man
While the Export to the US is now significant the connections and common interests are much more on the China side, a trustworthy ally that hasn't bombed or sanctioned Cambodia.
The Biden Administration is still on the same trajectory as all US Admins after Jimmy Carter. Devide and Rule, a policy that simply hasn't worked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessio ... ic_Hit_Man
While the Export to the US is now significant the connections and common interests are much more on the China side, a trustworthy ally that hasn't bombed or sanctioned Cambodia.
The Biden Administration is still on the same trajectory as all US Admins after Jimmy Carter. Devide and Rule, a policy that simply hasn't worked.
I'm pleased and plenty of cambodians will be too. I don't know or care the us motives. Anyone that pressures an authoritian government is fine by me
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Plenty of Cambodians? Yeah, the type who live in Long Beach or Lowell, bunch of fuckwits.Whoknows wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:16 pmI'm pleased and plenty of cambodians will be too. I don't know or care the us motives. Anyone that pressures an authoritian government is fine by me
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Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
No doubt you would have been cheering on the Vietnam War.Whoknows wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:16 pmI'm pleased and plenty of cambodians will be too. I don't know or care the us motives. Anyone that pressures an authoritian government is fine by me
Cheering for foreign intervention in Myanmar is all the rage among liberal know-nothings these days. As with Vietnam and Cambodia, they will be the first to pretend shock at any resulting conflict or carnage, and to claim that the terrible conflict could have been avoided if the world had only listened to them.
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You are right.This country is leaded by the mafia.Whoknows wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:16 pmI'm pleased and plenty of cambodians will be too. I don't know or care the us motives. Anyone that pressures an authoritian government is fine by me
Amazing Kingdom of Banana.
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You are not only wrong, but this thinking has led to some of the greatest problems in the last 100 years.Whoknows wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:16 pmI'm pleased and plenty of cambodians will be too. I don't know or care the us motives. Anyone that pressures an authoritian government is fine by me
An opinion piece in the New York Times in 2017 gives a good recap on this policy, stating about opposition figures and the West that “in their zeal to find a simple solution to the complex problem of political change, they overlook their heroes’ flaws, fail to see the challenges they will face in power, and assume that countries are the products of their leaders, when it is almost always the other way around.”
www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/world/asia/a ... r.amp.html
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Hmmm, I wrote earlier about that. I think, the NY (and "public" opinion) has a bit of a naive impression of the power in a democracy like Myanmar.
Despite Aung San Suu Kyi democratically elected, that does not imply, the government she heads does have sufficient power to lead the country. The military does have the economic power in Myanmar, so when the military does (not) want something, that is (not) going to happen.
The country itself is largely divided, with a lot of conflicting "wishes", where "the people" do not have a history of accepting the others' wishes (reciprocally), which makes the country effectively difficult to lead (to put it mildly).
So, yeah, it is pretty understandable, Aung San Suu Kyi did start to ignore a lot of conflicting wishes, etc and is trying to focus on a main stream of items she did have control over. Which got pretty well support in the country, given her reelection.
Realizing, Aung San Suu Kyi does have zero control over the military, the situation around Rohingya (largely military "controlled"), is understandable. Western leaders/press/opinion don't understand the difficulties that rise from the huge diversity in people in a country without a long-standing democratic history.
We should not forget, Europe did need some 400 years to get to the democracy point it is now. And even now, we do see several EU states already significantly diverting from the "common" EU goals for people (and only being interested to hold up their hands for EU money).
The US, as has shown 7-8 months ago, is even further away from what EU reached in 400 years.
Even in Taiwan, we see the democratically elected parliament go for a fist-fight every now and then.
In Cambodia, the people can be very happy to have a very "enlightened" dictator, obviously having the goal to serve the country instead of his own wallet and statue. A kind of old-style paterfamilias, serving his family in a kind of dictatorial way.
So, yeah, it is very easy to vent critics
Despite Aung San Suu Kyi democratically elected, that does not imply, the government she heads does have sufficient power to lead the country. The military does have the economic power in Myanmar, so when the military does (not) want something, that is (not) going to happen.
The country itself is largely divided, with a lot of conflicting "wishes", where "the people" do not have a history of accepting the others' wishes (reciprocally), which makes the country effectively difficult to lead (to put it mildly).
So, yeah, it is pretty understandable, Aung San Suu Kyi did start to ignore a lot of conflicting wishes, etc and is trying to focus on a main stream of items she did have control over. Which got pretty well support in the country, given her reelection.
Realizing, Aung San Suu Kyi does have zero control over the military, the situation around Rohingya (largely military "controlled"), is understandable. Western leaders/press/opinion don't understand the difficulties that rise from the huge diversity in people in a country without a long-standing democratic history.
We should not forget, Europe did need some 400 years to get to the democracy point it is now. And even now, we do see several EU states already significantly diverting from the "common" EU goals for people (and only being interested to hold up their hands for EU money).
The US, as has shown 7-8 months ago, is even further away from what EU reached in 400 years.
Even in Taiwan, we see the democratically elected parliament go for a fist-fight every now and then.
In Cambodia, the people can be very happy to have a very "enlightened" dictator, obviously having the goal to serve the country instead of his own wallet and statue. A kind of old-style paterfamilias, serving his family in a kind of dictatorial way.
So, yeah, it is very easy to vent critics
China just funded the KR and were a major player in assisting Pol Pot in the destruction of much of societyExpatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:09 pmWhile the Export to the US is now significant the connections and common interests are much more on the China side, a trustworthy ally that hasn't bombed or sanctioned Cambodia.
The US just did it a different way, neither China nor America are guiltless
Obviously, China has realized that bombing everything is not the way to go. America either hasn't or doesn't care, it's too profitable.
Now it is a transnational economic elite set, the Davos and WEF set, who are the main players attempting to completely remold society the world over. No strong forms of nationalism are acceptable to them. Countries that refuse to allow the Soros groups to create division and conflict and undermine a country's political establishment and culture will be targeted for regime change.twinkletoes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:04 amChina just funded the KR and were a major player in assisting Pol Pot in the destruction of much of societyExpatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:09 pmWhile the Export to the US is now significant the connections and common interests are much more on the China side, a trustworthy ally that hasn't bombed or sanctioned Cambodia.
The US just did it a different way, neither China nor America are guiltless
Obviously, China has realized that bombing everything is not the way to go. America either hasn't or doesn't care, it's too profitable.
I long for a US regime change/color revolution. Said no country ever.
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China was one of the biggest drivers of the embargo on Cambodia from 1979-early 90s. They were still arming the resistance long after the Paris Peace Agreements were signed. They may not have bombed here directly but they supplied a whole lot of mines, artillery and other arms to DK forces from 1970 right through to 1993 or so.Expatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:09 pmWhile the Export to the US is now significant the connections and common interests are much more on the China side, a trustworthy ally that hasn't bombed or sanctioned Cambodia.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
Although you can't call it a dichotomy. The Americans do what the Chinese did and they still do it, around the world relentlessly, while also bombing village after village of innocent people. Now the bombs might be painted with a rainbow. But nothing's changed.Lucky Lucan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:30 pmChina was one of the biggest drivers of the embargo on Cambodia from 1979-early 90s. They were still arming the resistance long after the Paris Peace Agreements were signed. They may not have bombed here directly but they supplied a whole lot of mines, artillery and other arms to DK forces from 1970 right through to 1993 or so.Expatissimo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:09 pmWhile the Export to the US is now significant the connections and common interests are much more on the China side, a trustworthy ally that hasn't bombed or sanctioned Cambodia.
The Great Satan shows no encouraging signs of reform, mercy, or sanity. The current administration grandstands over past injustices by the State, while failing to right or remedy human rights and other abuses that occurred comparatively yesterday.
The US Government(s) have no moral whatsoever. We're now "celebrating" the 60s anniversary of the Agent Orange Bombing in Vietnam. Similar to the desastorous Bophal Desaster by US Company Union Carbide Corp that claimed Sabotage for the desaster that cost several thousand people's life and many more injured the Agent Orange poisoning of south Vietnam was a US Government ordered program to devastate an entire region. https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/vict ... knowledged. Nobody knows for sure what other bio-weapons the US keeps in it's arsenal.
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