Sunday Buffet at The Exchange
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Well we've gone so far off topic already, why not?Mormon wrote:Satanic Verses? Please elaborate.
Satanic Verses was the title of the book that Salman Rushdie wrote, incurring a fatwa and causing him to go into hiding for years. The concept was based on a very early Muslim legend that related that after years of receiving revelations from Allah, Muhammad suddenly realised that a few key verses had been dictated by Satan.
Read further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses
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You're certainly right about going off topic. All I was interested in was obtaining a decent Sunday Roast. I have not mentioned religion once in any of my posts, I have politely answered off topic questions. However, I have learned a lot from Khmer440 and I may change my approach to talking about religion in the future. As an example, I may ask an individual for 5 minutes of their time to talk about religion. Sadly the response is "No, go away" or worse. I may now ask individuals, "Hello Sir or Madam, can you recommend a good restaurant for Sunday Lunch?' Hopefully the reply will be "No, but let me ask you about your religion".
I am obviously aware of Mr Rushdie's book. A few people got rather upset about it if I remember correctly. But please Mr Andy, please will you elaborate on the "Satanic Verses" and exactly where you believe it applies to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter - day Saints. I am not trying to be provocative here, I am genuinely interested to hear your view. Religion is subjective and I will admit I have had serious challenges. Maybe God has tried to test me. Our religion is not perfect, the divorce rate is abysmal, and status in the Church is often defined by money contributed. Mitt Romney (well known to be a Mormon) wasn't far away from being the most powerful man in the world recently. I wonder what the world's response had been if he had won?
Mr Andy, can we also go back on topic and maybe you could also be kind enough to recommend a good restaurant for Sunday Roast. Thank you, Sir.
Being a Morman has certainly attracted a lot of attention on the board. I guess I've become Magnet!
I am obviously aware of Mr Rushdie's book. A few people got rather upset about it if I remember correctly. But please Mr Andy, please will you elaborate on the "Satanic Verses" and exactly where you believe it applies to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter - day Saints. I am not trying to be provocative here, I am genuinely interested to hear your view. Religion is subjective and I will admit I have had serious challenges. Maybe God has tried to test me. Our religion is not perfect, the divorce rate is abysmal, and status in the Church is often defined by money contributed. Mitt Romney (well known to be a Mormon) wasn't far away from being the most powerful man in the world recently. I wonder what the world's response had been if he had won?
Mr Andy, can we also go back on topic and maybe you could also be kind enough to recommend a good restaurant for Sunday Roast. Thank you, Sir.
Being a Morman has certainly attracted a lot of attention on the board. I guess I've become Magnet!
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Yeh, breaking news - that was only last August. That was nice of God to change his mind, just like when he softened up and told your man Kimball that black saints should have some rights despite Brigham Young declaring they couldn't get into heaven. Maybe if you really really importune God, next he'll go easy on your hair shirt and chastity undercrackers.
But I don't recall God going back on that directive chubacca flagged up. How can you justify eating meat gratuitously and frivolously when your book condemns it? Why not go the whole hog and drink wine with your steak?
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Official Declaration 2
The Book of Mormon teaches that “all are alike unto God,” including “black and white, bond and free, male and female” (2 Nephi 26:33). Throughout the history of the Church, people of every race and ethnicity in many countries have been baptized and have lived as faithful members of the Church. During Joseph Smith’s lifetime, a few black male members of the Church were ordained to the priesthood. Early in its history, Church leaders stopped conferring the priesthood on black males of African descent. Church records offer no clear insights into the origins of this practice. Church leaders believed that a revelation from God was needed to alter this practice and prayerfully sought guidance. The revelation came to Church President Spencer W. Kimball and was affirmed to other Church leaders in the Salt Lake Temple on June 1, 1978. The revelation removed all restrictions with regard to race that once applied to the priesthood.
To Whom It May Concern:
On September 30, 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:
In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.
President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:
June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
Dear Brethren:
As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.
Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.
He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.
We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.
Sincerely yours,
Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney
The First Presidency
Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.
The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.
Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.
The Book of Mormon teaches that “all are alike unto God,” including “black and white, bond and free, male and female” (2 Nephi 26:33). Throughout the history of the Church, people of every race and ethnicity in many countries have been baptized and have lived as faithful members of the Church. During Joseph Smith’s lifetime, a few black male members of the Church were ordained to the priesthood. Early in its history, Church leaders stopped conferring the priesthood on black males of African descent. Church records offer no clear insights into the origins of this practice. Church leaders believed that a revelation from God was needed to alter this practice and prayerfully sought guidance. The revelation came to Church President Spencer W. Kimball and was affirmed to other Church leaders in the Salt Lake Temple on June 1, 1978. The revelation removed all restrictions with regard to race that once applied to the priesthood.
To Whom It May Concern:
On September 30, 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:
In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.
President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:
June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
Dear Brethren:
As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.
Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.
He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.
We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.
Sincerely yours,
Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney
The First Presidency
Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.
The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.
Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.
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You say you never brought up your religion in your posts - well look on the right hand side of all your posts - your username advertises your religion! So it is fair game you pick you up on it, isn't it?
My Satanic Verses jibe was tongue-in-cheek - we do like a banter on K440, but there's always a serious kernal within the humour. I was alluding to an analogy whereby just as the Qur'an [allegedly!] had devilish verses hidden within, so too the devil had slipped in a naughty comma in your scriptures, causing your diet to transgress God's will for a couple of centuries or so.
Anyway, I can't help re. your original query - I was following your God's ways and was vegetarian for nearly 20 years until I migrated to Asia. I think I've only ever eaten one steak in the last 30 years.
My Satanic Verses jibe was tongue-in-cheek - we do like a banter on K440, but there's always a serious kernal within the humour. I was alluding to an analogy whereby just as the Qur'an [allegedly!] had devilish verses hidden within, so too the devil had slipped in a naughty comma in your scriptures, causing your diet to transgress God's will for a couple of centuries or so.
Anyway, I can't help re. your original query - I was following your God's ways and was vegetarian for nearly 20 years until I migrated to Asia. I think I've only ever eaten one steak in the last 30 years.
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Dear Mr Andy. On the user name, I realize that. I really didn't think it mattered. If I had called myself "Catholic" I am pretty sure the posts would have been mostly about the buffet. Anyway, going back to the buffet at The Exchange, the meat servings were minuscule, there is a debate here as to whether I should have embarressed myself and asked for more. However, I believe they were out of Chicken and it was getting late, I believe the buffet closes at 3pm, so I doubt if they would have cooked more for me as I seemed to be the last person eating the buffet. I did not get a drink with my meal, I had 2 diet cokes, and I waited 30 minutes for my Ice Cream & Chocolate Cake despite asking if it was coming any time soon 3 times. By the way, I should have mentioned that the cake and ice cream were delicious. The check was nearly $22 including the service charge. I told my friends who had recommended the restaurant to me, they were astonished and told me that what I had experienced was the exact opposite to their experience. They maintain that it is the very best Sunday Roast in Phnom Penh. Anyway Buddy, it's time to sign off, I have very much enjoyed the banter, seriously, great fun. This will be my last post, I've said what I wanted to say, and I will go back to The Exchange soon to try the buffet again, if I manage to survive the traffic.
If the final plan is to Mormonize all of Asia, I could understand why the fellow would need his Sunday meal to be a fulfilling matter. Buffets at smaller restaurants are generally a better deal earlier on the day, I've found.
So, you didn't think it would matter if you choose the screen name "Mormon," and you showed up as the buffet was closing down....Mormon wrote:.... I really didn't think it mattered. ...I believe they were out of Chicken and it was getting late, I believe the buffet closes at 3pm, ...
Personally, I think God is fucking with you because you're knowingly breaking all his rules. Also, he needs you to spread the word to several billion people and you choose a fucking bicycle to get around on?
May the force be with you.
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cambod wrote:he needs you to spread the word to several billion people and you choose a fucking bicycle to get around on?Mormon wrote:.... I really didn't think it mattered. ...I believe they were out of Chicken and it was getting late, I believe the buffet closes at 3pm, ...
May the force be with you.
Maybe God is eco-friendly?
I doubt it, putting homo sapiens on the fucking planet.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
I grew up with a bunch of mormans...generally nice people but a bit too earnest. Good looking people all clean cut.
I would consider converting to the faith for the cool special underwear and my own planet upon my death. Before I more fully explore conversion I need to finish my 12 step program on alcoholism. It has been years now and I am just past step 1.
I would consider converting to the faith for the cool special underwear and my own planet upon my death. Before I more fully explore conversion I need to finish my 12 step program on alcoholism. It has been years now and I am just past step 1.
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