I have been away from PP for 3 years. I see Paris Hotel spa is now defunct. I see Candy Bar has moved into inferior quarters. I see alot of positive changes too here. The beggars are not quite as persistent. The construction, while noisy, is a good sign for the Khmer people. There seems to be less ants appearing in my room too for some reason.
Now for the girl stuff. While I am an experienced SEA resident and am aware of changes in "the industry" in the region as a whole, I have noticed a ridiculous asking price for your average (that is below average) barang go-getter. Three years ago it was twenty dollars short-time with whomever form whatever venue. Now it is $50. That is what I cannot believe. That makes this place more expensive than neighbouring countries, whereas it has traditionally been cheapest here.
Now, for you so inclined to berate my moral compass (like you lot have room to judge!) this is strictly an anthropological question. I am happy never to set foot in girly venues again - especially when all I hear is $50++. I am relatively young, polite, clean and in shape, so it's not because I am gross.
Can anybody shed any light on this issue? I will do my best to find a decent lady and do right by her, so no lectures please. I simply hit the old haunts out of nostalgia this week and was very disappointed to see this sort of cheeky greed having become the new normal. Are there newer hunting grounds on the old price structure? Thanks for your replies!
Are the girls getting greedy?
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Maybe true, but I've read that it's not unusual for Bangkok bargirls to ask 6000 baht for short times these days. Not that I really give a fuck anyway.
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ppsyd, I approved this post, but please be mindful that Khmer440 is NOT a whoremonger site. Let's see how this thread goes, but I'm not comfortable about it resulting in a happy ending.
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6000 baht for short time!! Who's asking? The elephant man? These bints get $30 - $40 for all night, and a buck for when their boyfriend comes to take them away in the morning. I used to pay $30 long time but I figured after paying the same for ten years they were probably due a rise. Some cheap cunts brag they never pay more than $20 - $25 for all night then complain when the girls no longer go with them. I haven't barfined a bird from a hostess bar in ages but nowadays I'd pay $30 ST and $40 - $45 LT. Regular LT freelancers get $30. I dare say I could give them less but no one likes a cheap cunt and in any case these girls have habits, boyfriends and kids to feed.Lucky Lucan wrote:Maybe true, but I've read that it's not unusual for Bangkok bargirls to ask 6000 baht for short times these days. Not that I really give a fuck anyway.
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You're welcome.ppsyd wrote:I have been away from PP for 3 years. I see Paris Hotel spa is now defunct. I see Candy Bar has moved into inferior quarters. I see alot of positive changes too here. The beggars are not quite as persistent. The construction, while noisy, is a good sign for the Khmer people. There seems to be less ants appearing in my room too for some reason.
Now for the girl stuff. While I am an experienced SEA resident and am aware of changes in "the industry" in the region as a whole, I have noticed a ridiculous asking price for your average (that is below average) barang go-getter. Three years ago it was twenty dollars short-time with whomever form whatever venue. Now it is $50. That is what I cannot believe. That makes this place more expensive than neighbouring countries, whereas it has traditionally been cheapest here.
Now, for you so inclined to berate my moral compass (like you lot have room to judge!) this is strictly an anthropological question. I am happy never to set foot in girly venues again - especially when all I hear is $50++. I am relatively young, polite, clean and in shape, so it's not because I am gross.
Can anybody shed any light on this issue? I will do my best to find a decent lady and do right by her, so no lectures please. I simply hit the old haunts out of nostalgia this week and was very disappointed to see this sort of cheeky greed having become the new normal. Are there newer hunting grounds on the old price structure? Thanks for your replies!
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It's just what I've read, as I have thought I had already made clear. You sound like a real class act.The Window Licker wrote:6000 baht for short time!! Who's asking? The elephant man? These bints get $30 - $40 for all night, and a buck for when their boyfriend comes to take them away in the morning. I used to pay $30 long time but I figured after paying the same for ten years they were probably due a rise. Some cheap cunts brag they never pay more than $20 - $25 for all night then complain when the girls no longer go with them. I haven't barfined a bird from a hostess bar in ages but nowadays I'd pay $30 ST and $40 - $45 LT. Regular LT freelancers get $30. I dare say I could give them less but no one likes a cheap cunt and in any case these girls have habits, boyfriends and kids to feed.Lucky Lucan wrote:Maybe true, but I've read that it's not unusual for Bangkok bargirls to ask 6000 baht for short times these days. Not that I really give a fuck anyway.
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Some people don't like scum bag sexpats. Different strokes for different...prices?The Window Licker wrote:6000 baht for short time!! Who's asking? The elephant man? These bints get $30 - $40 for all night, and a buck for when their boyfriend comes to take them away in the morning. I used to pay $30 long time but I figured after paying the same for ten years they were probably due a rise. Some cheap cunts brag they never pay more than $20 - $25 for all night then complain when the girls no longer go with them. I haven't barfined a bird from a hostess bar in ages but nowadays I'd pay $30 ST and $40 - $45 LT. Regular LT freelancers get $30. I dare say I could give them less but no one likes a cheap cunt and in any case these girls have habits, boyfriends and kids to feed.Lucky Lucan wrote:Maybe true, but I've read that it's not unusual for Bangkok bargirls to ask 6000 baht for short times these days. Not that I really give a fuck anyway.
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Hmm... I don't know a lot about the market prices, but I have indulged in this "hobby" (as some call it) a few times before. I'm not sure I'd call them greedy; nobody owes you sex. If they find they can now charge more and still get business, I'd call it smart.
Sex is something that I specifically have zero qualms with customer-dependent pricing. It is a very personal thing to have sex with someone. You may think you're fit and nice and funny, but they may not share that opinion. If a woman thinks she might enjoy sex with you, she'll be more likely to offer you a lower price as it isn't as much of a chore for her, and hell it may even be fun. If she thinks that the sex & company will be unenjoyable, for whatever reasons, she is more likely to want a higher price.
I was just in Cambodia last week and indulged in a little pay for play twice. One was a freelancer and the other worked in a bar. In neither case did we discus money beforehand and I gave the former $20 and the latter $30. Both seemed satisfied with the outcome and both were, in my opinion, quite attractive and friendly.
I think there's a lot at play here - looks, personality, respect, etc. Maybe try a different approach and you'll find more luck? Like I said, I don't usually indulge in this; it often happens after a drink too many, so I don't know what the "going rate" is but I don't feel there should even be one. Sex isn't like that.
Sex is something that I specifically have zero qualms with customer-dependent pricing. It is a very personal thing to have sex with someone. You may think you're fit and nice and funny, but they may not share that opinion. If a woman thinks she might enjoy sex with you, she'll be more likely to offer you a lower price as it isn't as much of a chore for her, and hell it may even be fun. If she thinks that the sex & company will be unenjoyable, for whatever reasons, she is more likely to want a higher price.
I was just in Cambodia last week and indulged in a little pay for play twice. One was a freelancer and the other worked in a bar. In neither case did we discus money beforehand and I gave the former $20 and the latter $30. Both seemed satisfied with the outcome and both were, in my opinion, quite attractive and friendly.
I think there's a lot at play here - looks, personality, respect, etc. Maybe try a different approach and you'll find more luck? Like I said, I don't usually indulge in this; it often happens after a drink too many, so I don't know what the "going rate" is but I don't feel there should even be one. Sex isn't like that.
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Probably best you stick to that "hobby" MekongMouse, as you seem to throw a temper tantrum if a real woman turns you down after you bought her a whopping ...2 dinners. At least with whores, you know your money is going to get you somewhere....maybe.MekongMouse wrote:Hmm... I don't know a lot about the market prices, but I have indulged in this "hobby" (as some call it) a few times before. I'm not sure I'd call them greedy; nobody owes you sex. If they find they can now charge more and still get business, I'd call it smart.
Sex is something that I specifically have zero qualms with customer-dependent pricing. It is a very personal thing to have sex with someone. You may think you're fit and nice and funny, but they may not share that opinion. If a woman thinks she might enjoy sex with you, she'll be more likely to offer you a lower price as it isn't as much of a chore for her, and hell it may even be fun. If she thinks that the sex & company will be unenjoyable, for whatever reasons, she is more likely to want a higher price.
I was just in Cambodia last week and indulged in a little pay for play twice. One was a freelancer and the other worked in a bar. In neither case did we discus money beforehand and I gave the former $20 and the latter $30. Both seemed satisfied with the outcome and both were, in my opinion, quite attractive and friendly.
I think there's a lot at play here - looks, personality, respect, etc. Maybe try a different approach and you'll find more luck? Like I said, I don't usually indulge in this; it often happens after a drink too many, so I don't know what the "going rate" is but I don't feel there should even be one. Sex isn't like that.
Anyone who doesn't like Capitalism is a pathetic loser. God bless the USA and no place else.
DetroitMuscle wrote:Probably best you stick to that "hobby" MekongMouse, as you seem to throw a temper tantrum if a real woman turns you down after you bought her a whopping ...2 dinners. At least with whores, you know your money is going to get you somewhere....maybe.
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