The Battle of Kampong Thom 1989, (NSFW: Real combat footage)
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The Battle of Kampong Thom 1989, (NSFW: Real combat footage)
This is real footage from the Cambodian-Vietnam War shot 1989 in Kampong Thom. The war lasted for nearly 11 years, from 25 December 1978 until 26 September 1989.
WARNING! This is real combat footage from the war and dead troops are shown in the video.
WARNING! This is real combat footage from the war and dead troops are shown in the video.
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Are these guys KPNLF or FUNCINPEC?
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Interestingly the video doesn’t show when on WiFi but does on 4G.
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Sounds Cambodian looks and dresses barang...wife said he speaks like a Cambodian.
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My wife said the soldiers might be from the group called Para ? I've never heard of them,my wifes uncle was a HE soldier and hates Para.
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Joy lop wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 5:48 pmMy wife said the soldiers might be from the group called Para ? I've never heard of them,my wifes uncle was a HE soldier and hates Para.
Possibly Thahan Phran ''Hunter Soldiers' (who allegedly would dress down into KR clothing and cross the border to pick fights with the Vietnamese).
The Thahan Phran have had a troubled history, with units often accused of atrocities, abuse of authority, and involvement in the drug trade. It has been reported that these units include local thugs who make use of their status to commit crimes against their fellow citizens. Numerous reforms have been made since the 1980s, particularly in screening recruits, and it is a more professional force than twenty years ago, but serious problems with discipline and human rights abuses remain.
"In a country with a dizzying array of different military units, the rangers were among the lowest paid, worst trained, and least disciplined of all Thai soldiers. They were at the bottom of the military status hierarchy: a poorly educated group who could not have made it into the more prestigious units. Indeed, they were regarded in some circles as little better than local thugs in uniform, who had been issued guns at a time when Communism was considered an immediate threat to Thailand's stability. With little supervision and a long history of often personal experience with the border conflict (many were local recruits from those villages that bore the brunt of the violence that spilled across the border), the rangers were not hesitant to take out their frustrations and aggression on the Khmer. Their "protective" presence often created more conflict than it prevented."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thahan_Phran
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Para was what Lon Nol troops in camo uniforms were called. I'm not sure if they are KPNLF or KPRAF (Kampuchean Revolutionary Armed Forces). I'd guess KPNLF going by the uniforms, I think KPRAF wore green uniforms with a peaked cap rather than a boonie.
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They are 100% ANS troops, Armée Nationale Sihanoukiste, of FUNCINPEC. In the Second video, the guy on the bullhorn plainly states, "We are the forces of the King Father". I also recognize their kit from my time working liaison with the various forces starting in 1989 through 1991 before I was forced to, um, switch sides and work with UNTAC rather than run around looking for the shit with various groups.
The first video is from very close to Morticia's home. She was about 10 in those days. The second is from farther north, closer to Siem Reap province. The battle map meeting in the second video shows that area plainly when they discuss deploying for action versus the "Forces of Heng Samrin", which would be the Vietnamese backed forces of the Cambodian government during the transition from occupation to the State of Cambodia, prior to UNTAC.
The engagement shown pretty much tracks with my experience, move to contact, fire everything you got, then run like hell...
The first video is from very close to Morticia's home. She was about 10 in those days. The second is from farther north, closer to Siem Reap province. The battle map meeting in the second video shows that area plainly when they discuss deploying for action versus the "Forces of Heng Samrin", which would be the Vietnamese backed forces of the Cambodian government during the transition from occupation to the State of Cambodia, prior to UNTAC.
The engagement shown pretty much tracks with my experience, move to contact, fire everything you got, then run like hell...
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
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Thanks for verifying that, I heard the reference to Heng Samrin but only got to see a few parts as I was on a phone. Most of the former PRK/SOC military I know identify themselves as former Heng Samrin soldiers. It's almost like they want to distance themselves from any other faction.
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Earlier, in K. Thom
Has anybody heard of a "rebellion" in the KR days that was centred in Kampong Thom?
A large group of malcontents fled from a major commune in Seam Reap province and ended up on a mountain in K. Thom where they joined some "bandits" and held out in resistance for a few months.
Eventually they were overpowered and nearly all the participants, and the story itself, almost completely buried and forgotten.
I remember hearing about this sometime during the KR trials,(researching, not as part of a trial )but i had so much info i was wading thru that my inadequate brain did not properly process it all.
I have tried to find any record of this story more recently but have been unable to track it down.
??
Has anybody heard of a "rebellion" in the KR days that was centred in Kampong Thom?
A large group of malcontents fled from a major commune in Seam Reap province and ended up on a mountain in K. Thom where they joined some "bandits" and held out in resistance for a few months.
Eventually they were overpowered and nearly all the participants, and the story itself, almost completely buried and forgotten.
I remember hearing about this sometime during the KR trials,(researching, not as part of a trial )but i had so much info i was wading thru that my inadequate brain did not properly process it all.
I have tried to find any record of this story more recently but have been unable to track it down.
??
...then he smiled again, and slipped away, further on up the stream
There was a rebellion in Chikrieng (Siem Reap/Kampong Thom border) in 1977 over food shortages. Not sure of the exact details. There was a paper written by Margret Slocombe "Chikreng Rebellion: Coup and its Aftermath in Democratic Kampuchea", so probably that (can't find a working link to copy at the moment).Hairy-nosed Otter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:14 pmEarlier, in K. Thom
Has anybody heard of a "rebellion" in the KR days that was centred in Kampong Thom?
A large group of malcontents fled from a major commune in Seam Reap province and ended up on a mountain in K. Thom where they joined some "bandits" and held out in resistance for a few months.
Eventually they were overpowered and nearly all the participants, and the story itself, almost completely buried and forgotten.
I remember hearing about this sometime during the KR trials,(researching, not as part of a trial )but i had so much info i was wading thru that my inadequate brain did not properly process it all.
I have tried to find any record of this story more recently but have been unable to track it down.
??
Edit: Rambling long answer:
I've heard tales of bandits living in the hills during the KR, much like they had for centuries. Not got any facts to hand, but they certainly existed- Cambodia had stuff the Thais wanted, for example, and the Thais had loads of stuff the better placed KR wanted.
There also must have been the jungle people up in the north east (phnong, jarai etc) who didn't feel like coming out of the forest to much and no doubt engaged in a bit of looting and banditry from time to time.
Outside of the main city areas, the south and Viet border, there were often not-so-committed to the cause of Marxism warlords, who gave lip service to the KR, but really ran their own fiefdoms. Within these there must have been some remote areas which couldn't be reached and simply left to their own devices.
The KR was always undermanned, and although the Chinese were supplying them, under equipped (one of the reasons the cities were evacuated and collective villages set up), and primarily focused on the Vietnamese border as far as force strength.
A description of the situation shortly before 1975:
One example of a reluctant KR comrade/eager bandit who is cited is this guy:"A former cadre named Van Rith on the system shortly after the Khmer Rouge took power (spellings of commanders differ from usual Anglicized): “The Party enveloped everything, but through a system of fiefdoms, with usurper kinglets (sdech kranh) ruling over each Zone and over Phnom Penh: Mok in the Southwest, Pheum in the East, Koy Thuon in the North, Nheum in the Northwest, Si in the West, each overseeing the economy, politics and executions, “enjoying total delegated authority” (mean seut tâmleak teang âh).”
"Khlong Yai District is a long sliver of land wedged between the Gulf of Siam and Koh Kong province. Its very existence as an odd Thai outpost owes itself to the 1907 agreement between the French and Siamese, which involved horsetrading of territory ranging from Trat to Siem Reap.
The local Khmer Rouge commander, a Comrade Veun, safely isolated from the ‘all seeing’ Angkar, took up position as a modern day feudal warlord and set about running a smuggling racket, with the help of Thai officials and businessmen across the border.
In order to keep up appearances- and possibility to make sure the business ran smoothly- Veun’s troop would fire the odd shell across the border at the outnumbered detachment of Thai Marines, who knew they could not hold the strip in the face of a serious assault.
The arrangement worked well up until February 1978. With the eastern border clashes heating up, Comrade Veun discovered there were plans to redeploy his unit to Kampot. Reluctant to lose his fiefdom and face certain death fighting the Vietnamese, Veun decided to show how much he was needed in the west by shelling the border, hitting Thai military and border guards, who responded in kind.
Around 3000 of the 4000 inhabitants fled by boat, as the single road to Trat came under attack. Having ‘’accidentally escalated” the situation, the Cambodian side, apparently realizing shooting the neighbors was bad for business, suddenly “de-escalated” according to Thai authorities, and life returned to the status quo in southern Trat province.
Illicit trade had flourished along the mountainous 800 km border for as long as it had been there. Away from the hard-line party centers, local commanders, such as Comrade Veun could obtain luxuries from across the border while millions of their countryman starved. Limited legal trade was also rarely permitted on occasions, and as late as 1978, trade negotiations were still being held between Phnom Penh and Bangkok."
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Legend! Thanks Stevie.
I think that may be the Chikrieng events that i was thinking of.
That note about commander Veun in Koh Kong is v v interesting too.
It accords with some snippets i have heard - and this scenario is totally believable.
One of my first ever posts here was calling for more info of KR history in Koh Kong. My file is still very skinny after many years searching.
I ain't gonna sleep tonight >> Searching further.
I would love to ask for your sources but am too polite.
In gratitude, Mr Wonder, for your very quick and very pertinent response I am gonna rename you "Fingertips"
I think that may be the Chikrieng events that i was thinking of.
That note about commander Veun in Koh Kong is v v interesting too.
It accords with some snippets i have heard - and this scenario is totally believable.
One of my first ever posts here was calling for more info of KR history in Koh Kong. My file is still very skinny after many years searching.
I ain't gonna sleep tonight >> Searching further.
I would love to ask for your sources but am too polite.
In gratitude, Mr Wonder, for your very quick and very pertinent response I am gonna rename you "Fingertips"
...then he smiled again, and slipped away, further on up the stream
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