Coup in Burma, Aung San Suu Kyi detained
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Eighteen people or more have got killed in Myanmar this weekend. What a disgrace for Asia... (and also, look at the South China Morning Post in HK: they report this event in Myanmar, but not a word about the arrest and detention of almost 50 politicians just yesterday in Hong Kong... Asia is going more and more bad...)
BBC News - "Myanmar coup: Deadliest day of protests as police open fire"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56228357
BBC News - "Myanmar coup: Deadliest day of protests as police open fire"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56228357
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Facebook has a far greater responsibility for the rohingya situation than Aung Sasn Suu Kyi.scobienz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:45 pmThe evidence of atrocities and displacement is already there. It is not disputed. It is not up for debate that a Rohingya are expressly excluded from political, civil and legal society. They are given no status. No education. Their villages were destroyed and thousands killed.
There is nothing to debate Fred. There are hundreds of thousands living in the world’s largest refugee camps across the border in Bangladesh, driven there by fear of attack and persecution.
If you want to wait for more evidence before making your mind up, then I wonder how high your threshold for evidence is.
It was Facebook that facilitated the general's wishes.
He could have stopped the accounts ages ago but only choose to take them down after the coup d'etat.
Meanwhile meth production ramps up
https://www.globalsecurity.org/security ... -voa02.htmOpium production in Myanmar, the world's second-largest cultivator of the poppies that are the base ingredient for heroin, has dropped, according to a United Nations study released Thursday, as "Golden Triangle" drug lords focus on the more lucrative synthetic drug trade.
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Wish we could get the military out out out out...!
Is all civilization doomed to oblivion and a petty end in senseless, brutal destruction?? Do innocents really need to die to assuage the greed and insecure selfishness of the few...?
BBC News - "Myanmar coup: 'Everything will be OK' teenage protester mourned"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56277165
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50815669/r ... evolution/
Is all civilization doomed to oblivion and a petty end in senseless, brutal destruction?? Do innocents really need to die to assuage the greed and insecure selfishness of the few...?
BBC News - "Myanmar coup: 'Everything will be OK' teenage protester mourned"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56277165
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50815669/r ... evolution/
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200 killed? What for?
The people of Myanmar are not going to stop this time. Maybe this will lead to civil war?
A pity the u.n. can't step in to depose the junta. (But I guess the Blue Helmets aren't real soldiers, more like Cambo expats, sort of more at home sleeping with the local girls than fighting...)
Look at these Myanmar protests vids...
China said they will "protect their interests" in Myanmar if the army can't. How can they possibly do that? Give more guns to the army? Step in to depose the army? Only short drive into Myanmar from China. Impossible...
The people of Myanmar are not going to stop this time. Maybe this will lead to civil war?
A pity the u.n. can't step in to depose the junta. (But I guess the Blue Helmets aren't real soldiers, more like Cambo expats, sort of more at home sleeping with the local girls than fighting...)
Look at these Myanmar protests vids...
China said they will "protect their interests" in Myanmar if the army can't. How can they possibly do that? Give more guns to the army? Step in to depose the army? Only short drive into Myanmar from China. Impossible...
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Haha maybe some other countries in the region will open their eyes once Chinese military enters Myanmar "to protect Chinese interests". After all China has been busy in the region constructing (rail)roads, airports and (deep-sea)ports. Now it becomes painfully obvious they were not made for economic reasons....
I remember a few years back of companies building branch offices or relocating their entire operations to Myanmar from Cambodia and Thailand. It is sad to see the country has been thrown back into disarray.
I remember a few years back of companies building branch offices or relocating their entire operations to Myanmar from Cambodia and Thailand. It is sad to see the country has been thrown back into disarray.
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Now, long-time journalists are on trial, and media organs are being shuttered...
https://apnews.com/article/journalists- ... bd63d1b265
https://apnews.com/article/journalists- ... bd63d1b265
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Sorry if it's been mentioned but wasn't this woman the biggest cunt in the world the other day - lying to the ICC and people demanding her Nobel was returned etc.?
What a difference a coup makes.
What a difference a coup makes.
This time the international community isn't so naive as to see Myanmar in black & white terms. I think the consensus is the military are vicious bastards, but the answer isn't to return to the situation pre-coup with an illiberal quasi-democracy where the majority Bamar ethnic group oppress minorities. It seems inside Myanmar many are wakening up to the "First they came for the Rohingyas and I didn't speak out..." scenario. I see in my Twitter feed pro-democracy Bamar groups now trying to make peace with those they previously neglected. I have no time for ASSK (and I'd still like to remind those in Cambodia how SR loved to compare himself to her), but it is possible that the military regime will collapse and a proper liberal democracy will emerge in due course. That will have to be an internal outcome though; I don't see direct intervention from the West, UN or China.
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Most people on this thread, except a few of the previous posters, like guest9, have little inkling of the actual inner dynamic happening in Myanmar. . . Spouting rage at Aung San Su Kyi -- especially after the fact of the recent coup -- shows precisely how nobody outside of Myanmar can see what was really going on the whole time she was "in power"...
Recent events of the coup -- and cruelty of the military -- should reveal for us a better understanding of the actual prior dynamic. She was obviously afraid of the military the whole time she was in power while pretending to get along with them. It is that simple. Why can't anyone see that? She was afraid to go against the military in any way, which is why she glossed over the oppression of the Rohingya... She dreaded this day, and it came sooner than later.
Easy for detached whites from soft-fake democracies like the UK, or corrupt-rotten ones like Italy, to condemn the Burmese democratic moment. The fact is, now you see how fragile "democracy" was in Myanmar. Yet, democracy it was, and the majority of the real people of Myanmar really want some form of genuine democracy, not a military dictatorship.
Sadly, it seems that there will probably not ever be any substantial democracy in Asia. For a few seasons, they have got it apparently in Indonesia; but, that could be a temporary anomaly derived from one president's personality... Because, everywhere else in Asia there is no democracy at all. I suppose what they pass for democracy in South Korea and Japan (corrupt oldboy lapdogs working directly for Capital) is more like the dynastic coalitional nonsense-miasma of Italy, not really genuine democracy. Although Taiwan appears to be democratic, this won't matter much if the lecherous stepdad decides to force his way into her bedroom and rape her... India is currently led by an authoritarian bigot, and the Philippines, by a killer. Sri Lanka is all corrupt rich kids, like Laos. Like Malaysia, which is about as democratic as a police detective in a bad mood after catching his wife cheating again and again. How about next door? Vietnam is a dictatorship, and so is Thailand.
Nope. Asia doesn't seem destined for the wacky technocratic wastefulness of Western wishy-washy, flippy-floppy blabber-ocracy. The U.S. is effed-up totally. They don't broadcast stories about the 22,000 people living in tent cities in places like Phoenix, Arizona on "CNN the same old shit" or on "Fox-who's-next-for-the-rich-anchor-whorewife?"
No, here in Asia they have their traditional modes of corruption, which are comfortable for the enforcers, but not for anyone else. It shall go on for another couple hundred years unless there's a truly worldwide revolution...
But with the current vast global vanity of personal selfishness (stare-at-our-phones-use-bitches-on-Tinder) coupled with the ongoing popularity of Netflix, Bollywood, football, cricket, pro golf, baseball and tennis, I really really don't think we have much hope for any big changes anytime soon... Yawn... I'd rather watch pole vaulters or beach volleyball...
What is happening in Burma is just more of the same universal soldier bullshit bloodsport, like HALO, Call of Duty, Doom Eternal... ...and it isn't so very much different from what goes on everyday at NASDAQ or on Wall Street, or in the City of London...
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-fps-games/
Recent events of the coup -- and cruelty of the military -- should reveal for us a better understanding of the actual prior dynamic. She was obviously afraid of the military the whole time she was in power while pretending to get along with them. It is that simple. Why can't anyone see that? She was afraid to go against the military in any way, which is why she glossed over the oppression of the Rohingya... She dreaded this day, and it came sooner than later.
Easy for detached whites from soft-fake democracies like the UK, or corrupt-rotten ones like Italy, to condemn the Burmese democratic moment. The fact is, now you see how fragile "democracy" was in Myanmar. Yet, democracy it was, and the majority of the real people of Myanmar really want some form of genuine democracy, not a military dictatorship.
Sadly, it seems that there will probably not ever be any substantial democracy in Asia. For a few seasons, they have got it apparently in Indonesia; but, that could be a temporary anomaly derived from one president's personality... Because, everywhere else in Asia there is no democracy at all. I suppose what they pass for democracy in South Korea and Japan (corrupt oldboy lapdogs working directly for Capital) is more like the dynastic coalitional nonsense-miasma of Italy, not really genuine democracy. Although Taiwan appears to be democratic, this won't matter much if the lecherous stepdad decides to force his way into her bedroom and rape her... India is currently led by an authoritarian bigot, and the Philippines, by a killer. Sri Lanka is all corrupt rich kids, like Laos. Like Malaysia, which is about as democratic as a police detective in a bad mood after catching his wife cheating again and again. How about next door? Vietnam is a dictatorship, and so is Thailand.
Nope. Asia doesn't seem destined for the wacky technocratic wastefulness of Western wishy-washy, flippy-floppy blabber-ocracy. The U.S. is effed-up totally. They don't broadcast stories about the 22,000 people living in tent cities in places like Phoenix, Arizona on "CNN the same old shit" or on "Fox-who's-next-for-the-rich-anchor-whorewife?"
No, here in Asia they have their traditional modes of corruption, which are comfortable for the enforcers, but not for anyone else. It shall go on for another couple hundred years unless there's a truly worldwide revolution...
But with the current vast global vanity of personal selfishness (stare-at-our-phones-use-bitches-on-Tinder) coupled with the ongoing popularity of Netflix, Bollywood, football, cricket, pro golf, baseball and tennis, I really really don't think we have much hope for any big changes anytime soon... Yawn... I'd rather watch pole vaulters or beach volleyball...
What is happening in Burma is just more of the same universal soldier bullshit bloodsport, like HALO, Call of Duty, Doom Eternal... ...and it isn't so very much different from what goes on everyday at NASDAQ or on Wall Street, or in the City of London...
https://www.gamesradar.com/best-fps-games/
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Beautiful Biden territory this - geopolitically distant enough to say we tried, but also a little flex worth taking - his little stamp early with little risk of big fallout. The septics may just take an interest in Burma for a giggle if the cunts keep killing.
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Yes, and China and Russia only care about bosses, not people. . .
The thing is, without arms and international support, there is no way out for the people. The chaos of civil strife is of course the worst possible outcome, unless the military can be turned against the boss. But that seems unlikely, as the generals are all joint shareholders in the military companies, MEC and UMEHL...
The people may continue fighting for awhile yet... it is sad that this is happening...
Myanmar's freedom movements are trying to raise money:
https://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campa ... i83GPxA_oo
The thing is, without arms and international support, there is no way out for the people. The chaos of civil strife is of course the worst possible outcome, unless the military can be turned against the boss. But that seems unlikely, as the generals are all joint shareholders in the military companies, MEC and UMEHL...
The people may continue fighting for awhile yet... it is sad that this is happening...
Myanmar's freedom movements are trying to raise money:
https://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campa ... i83GPxA_oo
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