Would rapid weight gain be a cause?jackrossi wrote:In my non professional opinion he has an inflammation of the sacroiliac joints see red arrows
He needs to define the cause.
Advice desperately needed (lower back pain)
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Nightmare,
Did you manage to make it to the boxing in the end yesterday then?
Did you manage to make it to the boxing in the end yesterday then?
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How many more responses is it going to take before NB does the bleeding obvious thing and stop listening to lots of well meaning but non-specific feedback and just go to see a freaking doctor?
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I don't trust the medical establishment here. I think they could do more harm than good. I am trying to stabilize myself and then get back to Barangland.scobienz wrote:How many more responses is it going to take before NB does the bleeding obvious thing and stop listening to lots of well meaning but non-specific feedback and just go to see a freaking doctor?
Not possible.spitthedog wrote:Nightmare,
Did you manage to make it to the boxing in the end yesterday then?
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A doctor? For his back or his love handles?scobienz wrote:How many more responses is it going to take before NB does the bleeding obvious thing and stop listening to lots of well meaning but non-specific feedback and just go to see a freaking doctor?
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Do you still have the diagrams of the exercises? I lost mine and can't find them, but would like to get back at it.wackyjacky wrote:That's what I have. My stomach is as hard as a rock now and the back only hurts when I stop the core exercises for more than a few days.Jacked Camry wrote:OP's problem sounds very much like a herniated or "slipped" disk. I had this and it became a recurring problem until a decent physio aligned the spine properly and gave me some massage and some stretching exercises to do before physical activity. Since then, no problems after two years. I'm supposed to also do core exercises with the big rubber ball but haven't started yet. The Danish physio was the guy I used in Phnom Penh, he was good.
I would say
1) not organ related, because no organ pain causes this specific suffering (too low and both sides) and they are almost always not affected by position or movement. Any organ related extreme pain usually is accompanied by several symptoms such as dizziness or blurred vision or fever.
2) sacroiliac inflammation most likely
3) statistically most common causes gout, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, reactive arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis or just a nonspecific temporary inflammation(which can be caused by [among others] a change in walking posture due to a fast weight gain) .
4) I rule out reactive arthritis because you aren't swollen but a simple blood test can rule out an infection plus a test for clamydia which often triggers Reactive A.
5) most of the arthritis (besides Reactive A.) do not have a sudden onset but often nonspecific back pain as far as I did read is caused by a mix of factors such a slightly off center spine plus some natural disk erosion plus a triggering cause.
6) less likely but still possible is a small ernia that caused a general inflammation (triggering cause) which might subside by itself, by a kind of pulling machine or minor surgery might be required. would explain why the back pain is terrible in certain positions and gone in others but many iflamations respond to position as well. If the pain is non present in fetal position the possible ernia would be facing mostly outward which,if necessity arises, would make surgery easier.
However I don't bet on ernia since you had no injury.
Does laying belly down not improve your back at all?
Is your belly particularly prominent or not? What's your age? * can PM
1) not organ related, because no organ pain causes this specific suffering (too low and both sides) and they are almost always not affected by position or movement. Any organ related extreme pain usually is accompanied by several symptoms such as dizziness or blurred vision or fever.
2) sacroiliac inflammation most likely
3) statistically most common causes gout, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, reactive arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis or just a nonspecific temporary inflammation(which can be caused by [among others] a change in walking posture due to a fast weight gain) .
4) I rule out reactive arthritis because you aren't swollen but a simple blood test can rule out an infection plus a test for clamydia which often triggers Reactive A.
5) most of the arthritis (besides Reactive A.) do not have a sudden onset but often nonspecific back pain as far as I did read is caused by a mix of factors such a slightly off center spine plus some natural disk erosion plus a triggering cause.
6) less likely but still possible is a small ernia that caused a general inflammation (triggering cause) which might subside by itself, by a kind of pulling machine or minor surgery might be required. would explain why the back pain is terrible in certain positions and gone in others but many iflamations respond to position as well. If the pain is non present in fetal position the possible ernia would be facing mostly outward which,if necessity arises, would make surgery easier.
However I don't bet on ernia since you had no injury.
Does laying belly down not improve your back at all?
Is your belly particularly prominent or not? What's your age? * can PM
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Laying down on my belly feels ok and seems to naturally stretch my lower back. I only just tried this now in order to answer your question. My belly is now particularly prominent, yes.jackrossi wrote:I would say
1) not organ related, because no organ pain causes this specific suffering (too low and both sides) and they are almost always not affected by position or movement. Any organ related extreme pain usually is accompanied by several symptoms such as dizziness or blurred vision or fever.
2) sacroiliac inflammation most likely
3) statistically most common causes gout, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, reactive arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis or just a nonspecific temporary inflammation(which can be caused by [among others] a change in walking posture due to a fast weight gain) .
4) I rule out reactive arthritis because you aren't swollen but a simple blood test can rule out an infection plus a test for clamydia which often triggers Reactive A.
5) most of the arthritis (besides Reactive A.) do not have a sudden onset but often nonspecific back pain as far as I did read is caused by a mix of factors such a slightly off center spine plus some natural disk erosion plus a triggering cause.
6) less likely but still possible is a small ernia that caused a general inflammation (triggering cause) which might subside by itself, by a kind of pulling machine or minor surgery might be required. would explain why the back pain is terrible in certain positions and gone in others but many iflamations respond to position as well. If the pain is non present in fetal position the possible ernia would be facing mostly outward which,if necessity arises, would make surgery easier.
However I don't bet on ernia since you had no injury.
Does laying belly down not improve your back at all?
Is your belly particularly prominent or not?
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Good Because I can lie on my belly or good that it is protruding?jackrossi wrote:Good so ernia is less likely.
Why did you ask about the protruding belly?
Good because lying down makes your condition improve regardless of the position. If the back pain persist when lying down with minimal changes is a big red flag. I asked also because if it is an ernia you are very likely to have much more pain on one side than the other but if your belly is very protruding it makes the test less telling because your spine will have a similar position as when you are in the fetal position. I could have asked you to lie down and arch your back backwards a bit like a seal but it sounds even more weird. (Can't do it standing up of course).
Is your pain worse when sitting properly straight or standing? What happens if someone touches that spot? Instant pain feedback or not much?
You can do a ct scan with contrast liquid in order to find out if you actually have an inflammation of the sacroiliac joints.
Just ask to a any decent doctor for a
"ct scan with contrast liquid for rule out a sacroiliac inflammation"
In French (if anyone speaks French please help) just let him read it from the phone.
Its quite visual and routine so I don't see a Khmer doctor failing at it unless he is really a tool.
I guess from 40$ to 100$ here? Maybe cheaper? Anyway make sure the last they do use the contrast liquid or it takes a quite skilled doctor to indentify the problem.
Is your pain worse when sitting properly straight or standing? What happens if someone touches that spot? Instant pain feedback or not much?
You can do a ct scan with contrast liquid in order to find out if you actually have an inflammation of the sacroiliac joints.
Just ask to a any decent doctor for a
"ct scan with contrast liquid for rule out a sacroiliac inflammation"
In French (if anyone speaks French please help) just let him read it from the phone.
Its quite visual and routine so I don't see a Khmer doctor failing at it unless he is really a tool.
I guess from 40$ to 100$ here? Maybe cheaper? Anyway make sure the last they do use the contrast liquid or it takes a quite skilled doctor to indentify the problem.
If I am asking too many questions just let me know and I will stop. Could you take a photo pointing exactly where the pain comes from? Or just pointing it on a random body picture using something like Windows paint because it allows to almost rule out organ involvement.
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Oh christ . . now the ultimate jack-of-all-trades-rossi is going into the medical advisory business too
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The problem isn't kidney disease, it's liver necrosis.gavinmac wrote:That's not a polarised view. It discusses the effect of chronic tylenol use with chronic alcohol use. No one's going to get kidney disease from taking tylenol for a few days while also drinking.EdinWigan wrote: But it really depends on the dose taken, also the article directly above your Google search, offers a polarised view:
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addi ... y-suggests
It is all to easy to search Google for stuff to support any argument we want to support.
It's all about the dose taken, and the current condition of the liver. If you take one Tylenol in the morning and have a beer at night you most probably won't suffer acute liver failure / necrosis, but if you go through the thread and through the numbers OP provided - this isn't the case with OP.
Why don't you google beyond the first (sponsored?) links google provided you, and read the study 11 international doctors did in 2005? Their conclusion: the biggest cause of liver failure in the USA and the UK in 2005 was the use / abuse of Tylenol or similar non branded medicines. Mortality rate after the occurrence: 35% (in the USA), 8% needed a liver transplant. 7% of the cases took tylenol in same amount (<= 4000 mg a day) the OP was planning to do. Of those, 69% 'used' (as opposed to 'abused') Tylenol with alcohol. No relation?
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