OK now I'm definitely wrong. That doesn't sound like a back problem. It could be your kidneys or something. Kachang was right. Get it checked out.nightmare.believer wrote:Now it seems like the bottom of my lower back is arched, and my love handles and stomach appear harder. Sound familiar to anyone?
Still no pain usually associated with inflammation, just pain still bilaterally on the lower back.
Advice desperately needed (lower back pain)
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That's what I have. My stomach is as hard as a rock now and the back only hurts when I stop the core exercises for more than a few days.Jacked Camry wrote:OP's problem sounds very much like a herniated or "slipped" disk. I had this and it became a recurring problem until a decent physio aligned the spine properly and gave me some massage and some stretching exercises to do before physical activity. Since then, no problems after two years. I'm supposed to also do core exercises with the big rubber ball but haven't started yet. The Danish physio was the guy I used in Phnom Penh, he was good.
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Please answer these questions:
Does the pain radiate along your lower limbs?
During the peaks does the pain feels like a thunder spreading around your lower back?
Is the pain movement related?
Does Assuming the fetal position affect the pain? If yes how?
Do you have any joints swelling? Any swelling at all?
Did you experience any recent injury? If yes describe it.
Do you have a fever? Chills? Is your vision/balance impaired?
Describe what makes the pain decrease and increase if you have any clear giveaway.
Which medicines are you currently using?
Please answer these questions:
Does the pain radiate along your lower limbs?
During the peaks does the pain feels like a thunder spreading around your lower back?
Is the pain movement related?
Does Assuming the fetal position affect the pain? If yes how?
Do you have any joints swelling? Any swelling at all?
Did you experience any recent injury? If yes describe it.
Do you have a fever? Chills? Is your vision/balance impaired?
Describe what makes the pain decrease and increase if you have any clear giveaway.
Which medicines are you currently using?
In my non professional opinion he has an inflammation of the sacroiliac joints see red arrows
He needs to define the cause.
He needs to define the cause.
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I took Tylenol this morning, but discontinued as I have been drinking a lot recently, as I am on vacation, and didn't want to take the chance of liver damage..jackrossi wrote:I
Please answer these questions:
Does the pain radiate along your lower limbs? No
During the peaks does the pain feels like a thunder spreading around your lower back? No
Is the pain movement related? Yes
Does Assuming the fetal position affect the pain? If yes how? In that position there is no pain
Do you have any joints swelling? Any swelling at all? No. Just love handles and belly are harder.
Did you experience any recent injury? If yes describe it. No. And I had been lifting weight in the gym moderately, but stopped two weeks ago because I moved. Lifting went fine. I swam 45 minutes on Wednesday.
Do you have a fever? Chills? Is your vision/balance impaired?no.no.no.
Describe what makes the pain decrease and increase if you have any clear giveaway. Pain decreases lying on my sides or back., in the fetal position. A hot shower with a good while of the hot water directly on my lower back.
Which medicines are you currently using?
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Would rapid weight gain be a cause?jackrossi wrote:In my non professional opinion he has an inflammation of the sacroiliac joints see red arrows
He needs to define the cause.
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Nightmare,
Did you manage to make it to the boxing in the end yesterday then?
Did you manage to make it to the boxing in the end yesterday then?
"I don't care what the people are thinking, i ain't drunk i'm just drinking"
How many more responses is it going to take before NB does the bleeding obvious thing and stop listening to lots of well meaning but non-specific feedback and just go to see a freaking doctor?
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I don't trust the medical establishment here. I think they could do more harm than good. I am trying to stabilize myself and then get back to Barangland.scobienz wrote:How many more responses is it going to take before NB does the bleeding obvious thing and stop listening to lots of well meaning but non-specific feedback and just go to see a freaking doctor?
Not possible.spitthedog wrote:Nightmare,
Did you manage to make it to the boxing in the end yesterday then?
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A doctor? For his back or his love handles?scobienz wrote:How many more responses is it going to take before NB does the bleeding obvious thing and stop listening to lots of well meaning but non-specific feedback and just go to see a freaking doctor?
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Do you still have the diagrams of the exercises? I lost mine and can't find them, but would like to get back at it.wackyjacky wrote:That's what I have. My stomach is as hard as a rock now and the back only hurts when I stop the core exercises for more than a few days.Jacked Camry wrote:OP's problem sounds very much like a herniated or "slipped" disk. I had this and it became a recurring problem until a decent physio aligned the spine properly and gave me some massage and some stretching exercises to do before physical activity. Since then, no problems after two years. I'm supposed to also do core exercises with the big rubber ball but haven't started yet. The Danish physio was the guy I used in Phnom Penh, he was good.
I would say
1) not organ related, because no organ pain causes this specific suffering (too low and both sides) and they are almost always not affected by position or movement. Any organ related extreme pain usually is accompanied by several symptoms such as dizziness or blurred vision or fever.
2) sacroiliac inflammation most likely
3) statistically most common causes gout, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, reactive arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis or just a nonspecific temporary inflammation(which can be caused by [among others] a change in walking posture due to a fast weight gain) .
4) I rule out reactive arthritis because you aren't swollen but a simple blood test can rule out an infection plus a test for clamydia which often triggers Reactive A.
5) most of the arthritis (besides Reactive A.) do not have a sudden onset but often nonspecific back pain as far as I did read is caused by a mix of factors such a slightly off center spine plus some natural disk erosion plus a triggering cause.
6) less likely but still possible is a small ernia that caused a general inflammation (triggering cause) which might subside by itself, by a kind of pulling machine or minor surgery might be required. would explain why the back pain is terrible in certain positions and gone in others but many iflamations respond to position as well. If the pain is non present in fetal position the possible ernia would be facing mostly outward which,if necessity arises, would make surgery easier.
However I don't bet on ernia since you had no injury.
Does laying belly down not improve your back at all?
Is your belly particularly prominent or not? What's your age? * can PM
1) not organ related, because no organ pain causes this specific suffering (too low and both sides) and they are almost always not affected by position or movement. Any organ related extreme pain usually is accompanied by several symptoms such as dizziness or blurred vision or fever.
2) sacroiliac inflammation most likely
3) statistically most common causes gout, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, reactive arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis or just a nonspecific temporary inflammation(which can be caused by [among others] a change in walking posture due to a fast weight gain) .
4) I rule out reactive arthritis because you aren't swollen but a simple blood test can rule out an infection plus a test for clamydia which often triggers Reactive A.
5) most of the arthritis (besides Reactive A.) do not have a sudden onset but often nonspecific back pain as far as I did read is caused by a mix of factors such a slightly off center spine plus some natural disk erosion plus a triggering cause.
6) less likely but still possible is a small ernia that caused a general inflammation (triggering cause) which might subside by itself, by a kind of pulling machine or minor surgery might be required. would explain why the back pain is terrible in certain positions and gone in others but many iflamations respond to position as well. If the pain is non present in fetal position the possible ernia would be facing mostly outward which,if necessity arises, would make surgery easier.
However I don't bet on ernia since you had no injury.
Does laying belly down not improve your back at all?
Is your belly particularly prominent or not? What's your age? * can PM
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Laying down on my belly feels ok and seems to naturally stretch my lower back. I only just tried this now in order to answer your question. My belly is now particularly prominent, yes.jackrossi wrote:I would say
1) not organ related, because no organ pain causes this specific suffering (too low and both sides) and they are almost always not affected by position or movement. Any organ related extreme pain usually is accompanied by several symptoms such as dizziness or blurred vision or fever.
2) sacroiliac inflammation most likely
3) statistically most common causes gout, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, reactive arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis or just a nonspecific temporary inflammation(which can be caused by [among others] a change in walking posture due to a fast weight gain) .
4) I rule out reactive arthritis because you aren't swollen but a simple blood test can rule out an infection plus a test for clamydia which often triggers Reactive A.
5) most of the arthritis (besides Reactive A.) do not have a sudden onset but often nonspecific back pain as far as I did read is caused by a mix of factors such a slightly off center spine plus some natural disk erosion plus a triggering cause.
6) less likely but still possible is a small ernia that caused a general inflammation (triggering cause) which might subside by itself, by a kind of pulling machine or minor surgery might be required. would explain why the back pain is terrible in certain positions and gone in others but many iflamations respond to position as well. If the pain is non present in fetal position the possible ernia would be facing mostly outward which,if necessity arises, would make surgery easier.
However I don't bet on ernia since you had no injury.
Does laying belly down not improve your back at all?
Is your belly particularly prominent or not?
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