Divorce of unregistered marriage
Divorce of unregistered marriage
Hi, I have some questions on "divorce" of a unregistered marriage in Cambodia and would be happy if you could help me.
The couple got the permission from the commune council to marry and then the religious wedding ceremony took place, but afterwards they never registered their marriage at the civil registry. Now the husband wants to divorce, but his wife does not want (because of the money), they also have children. The husband is my boyfriend and we are planning a future together with marriage, which is necessary in order to live in my home country in Europe, that is why we want to be everything done really properly.
- What does he have to do to get "divorce"? Can he just "walk out of the door" to marry me?
- If he needs to file for divorce at the Commune council, how long does it take until he gets a "divorce certificate" when she does not agree? If she agrees, does it go faster?
She said she will agree if offered some money.
- How much will it cost to get a "Divorce certificate"?
- Will they try hard to convince him to stay with her? If so, I want to prepare him for that.
- In our holidays we want to travel to Europe, is it wise to say he is "separated/married" when applying for a Schengen-Visa?
I would be very happy if you could help me, thank you so much.
The couple got the permission from the commune council to marry and then the religious wedding ceremony took place, but afterwards they never registered their marriage at the civil registry. Now the husband wants to divorce, but his wife does not want (because of the money), they also have children. The husband is my boyfriend and we are planning a future together with marriage, which is necessary in order to live in my home country in Europe, that is why we want to be everything done really properly.
- What does he have to do to get "divorce"? Can he just "walk out of the door" to marry me?
- If he needs to file for divorce at the Commune council, how long does it take until he gets a "divorce certificate" when she does not agree? If she agrees, does it go faster?
She said she will agree if offered some money.
- How much will it cost to get a "Divorce certificate"?
- Will they try hard to convince him to stay with her? If so, I want to prepare him for that.
- In our holidays we want to travel to Europe, is it wise to say he is "separated/married" when applying for a Schengen-Visa?
I would be very happy if you could help me, thank you so much.
Why not talk to the commune or village chief for the area. They know the case history. Secondly, have him check his legal rights with a lawyer.
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So ur a homewrecker and ur going to deprive the kids of their dad!!!?? Shame on you, there are plenty of single guys out thereThe husband is my boyfriend and we are planning a future together with marriage
If he is Moslem all he need do is say, "i divorce you " three times
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Yes, he will do that when he gets back to his province (in a few weeks), just wanted to get some information what to expect in advance to be "prepared".DF wrote:Why not talk to the commune or village chief for the area. They know the case history. Secondly, have him check his legal rights with a lawyer.
I was just asking a question to get information how divorce of unregistered marriage is handled in Cambodia. No need to offend me.Phuket2006 wrote:So ur a homewrecker and ur going to deprive the kids of their dad!!!?? Shame on you, there are plenty of single guys out thereThe husband is my boyfriend and we are planning a future together with marriage
If he is Moslem all he need do is say, "i divorce you " three times
I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure if the marriage hasn't been registered at the commune, your beau can just walk away. Religious has no legal standing.
Otoh if he's a decent guy he'll certainly want to support his kids, but that's another topic.
Otoh if he's a decent guy he'll certainly want to support his kids, but that's another topic.
It's just a simple matter of both parties agreeing to the divorce and then going to the Sangkat to thumbprint a document stating that they both agree, however if one party doesn't agree then they may request financial compensation ( sister in law recently went through this, ex-hubby had to pay out before she would agree). As the marriage was not officially registered then either party cold just walk away, but if in the future either party wants to remarry officially, then the Sangkat may refuse to issue a certificate of celibacy, widowhood or divorce.
I'm not a negative person, I encourage people all the time...it's usually to f**k off! But, whatever.
If you had also asked how easy is it to get a visa for a Cambodian for a European country, I would have answered, almost impossible.
Unless your bf has plenty of money in the bank, property and a secure, professional job, you will be paying the 1000's of dollars to the state guaranteeing that he returns to Cambodia once the visa expires. This is assuming they give him a visa in the first place.
Plan B, may have to be that you move onto his wife's land in the countryside, and be his second wife, as is tradition. They would also build you your very own country pad of banana leaves and bamboo behind her house.
Unless your bf has plenty of money in the bank, property and a secure, professional job, you will be paying the 1000's of dollars to the state guaranteeing that he returns to Cambodia once the visa expires. This is assuming they give him a visa in the first place.
Plan B, may have to be that you move onto his wife's land in the countryside, and be his second wife, as is tradition. They would also build you your very own country pad of banana leaves and bamboo behind her house.
Well nobody did, so why don't you keep your imbecile comments to yourself?clueless moron wrote:If you had also asked how easy is it to ...
That should be "Keep your imbecilic comments to yourself".logos wrote:Well nobody did, so why don't you keep your imbecile comments to yourself?clueless moron wrote:If you had also asked how easy is it to ...
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Had read on this site that this forum was like a family.Just giving family advice, which I would have no problem saying to OP in a face to face conversation.
Are you also proud of your sharp tongue and heavy handed, and rude comments?
Are you also proud of your sharp tongue and heavy handed, and rude comments?
Usually you're very well informed, but are you sure it's the Sangkat? I remember the clerk (smean) writing, attaching a picture and stamping / signing a certificate of celibacy after the village chief gave green light for that, not the Sangkat.PSD_Kiwi wrote:It's just a simple matter of both parties agreeing to the divorce and then going to the Sangkat to thumbprint a document stating that they both agree, however if one party doesn't agree then they may request financial compensation ( sister in law recently went through this, ex-hubby had to pay out before she would agree). As the marriage was not officially registered then either party cold just walk away, but if in the future either party wants to remarry officially, then the Sangkat may refuse to issue a certificate of celibacy, widowhood or divorce.
For everything you tell (well, he tells....) them during the visa application you'll need documentary proof, so lying isn't very smart. If he will say he is divorced at that time, they may ask documentary proof for that.AngkorFan wrote:<cut>
- In our holidays we want to travel to Europe, is it wise to say he is "separated/married" when applying for a Schengen-Visa?
I would be very happy if you could help me, thank you so much.
First worry about the 'divorce', which will consist mainly of money changing hands at the village chief's house/Sangkat (they will demand money from him because he didn't register the wedding with them, and he needs them for the registration of the new marriage, that's going to cost....) and with his ex wife, the visa for him will be your next worry.
For now, start registering your relationship with him. Collect and archive documentary proof of your relationship like squirrels collect nuts in fall. Make sure you have documentary proof of being in a relationship with him for a longer period of time (not specified, but I guess > 1 year). If you can proof you are in a long term relationship with him a Schengen visa should be provided and it should be provided for free. Sounds good, right? Please note the burden of proving is yours. A few pictures of you and him in Siem Reap in front of the temples won't do, think documents like residency documents with both names, medical insurances registered at the same address for the both of you, shared bank accounts actually used for an extended period, maybe property or possessions in both names, etc etc.
You've never been involved in Schengen visa application, have you?DF wrote:If you had also asked how easy is it to get a visa for a Cambodian for a European country, I would have answered, almost impossible.
Unless your bf has plenty of money in the bank, property and a secure, professional job, you will be paying the 1000's of dollars to the state guaranteeing that he returns to Cambodia once the visa expires. This is assuming they give him a visa in the first place.
Plan B, may have to be that you move onto his wife's land in the countryside, and be his second wife, as is tradition. They would also build you your very own country pad of banana leaves and bamboo behind her house.
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