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How old is too old to have kids (with a Cambodian woman)?

A lot of expats increasingly settle in Cambodia with families and kids, or acquire them while here. This forum is a place to ask questions and discuss all things family.
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Post by DF » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:49 pm

Phuket2006 wrote:Had my daughter at 44
i figure if u cant be around to see them graduate from High school ( why when i typed in H.S. did it turn to HE?) and hopefully college, u should not be fathering kids, so an average age for kicking the bucket is say 70
that means after 48-50 or so... not much worse for a kid than growing up without a dad ( i went thru that)
You can have kids when you're 20, and die by 30. You can have kids at 50, and live to a hundred. Point is there are no guarantees, except we only get one shot. Live it to the full whilst you have the chance, whatever your choice is.
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Post by This Charming Man » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:55 pm

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They don't need to go to uni and have a job to have a future. Work out an alternative solution and set them up yourself.

Most of the under 40's in europe are living a shit existance anyway.
I suspect most kids in Cambodia would give their right arms to have the opportunity to have the sort of shit existence in Europe you mention.
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Post by Miguelito » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:10 pm

DF wrote: You can have kids when you're 20, and die by 30. You can have kids at 50, and live to a hundred. Point is there are no guarantees, except we only get one shot. Live it to the full whilst you have the chance, whatever your choice is.
I don't know, plenty of Buddhists here might tell you you'll get plenty of shots :eyes:
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Post by DF » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:12 pm

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They don't need to go to uni and have a job to have a future. Work out an alternative solution and set them up yourself.

Most of the under 40's in europe are living a shit existance anyway.
I suspect most kids in Cambodia would give their right arms to have the opportunity to have the sort of shit existence in Europe you mention.
Don't really understand the pessimism about life in Cambodia.

EUROPE is as corrupt as the next man. Most under 40's don"t own anything once debt is taken into account. Youth unemployment is through the roof. Educating for no jobs. Working full time and having a negative each month. Human trafficking. Child prostitution. The list is endless.

Can't actually see many differences to be honest.

The weather in europe stinks too. A beer costs 4 bucks, and which western girl has ever cleaned your penis for you after sex?
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Post by This Charming Man » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:39 pm

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They don't need to go to uni and have a job to have a future. Work out an alternative solution and set them up yourself.

Most of the under 40's in europe are living a shit existance anyway.
I suspect most kids in Cambodia would give their right arms to have the opportunity to have the sort of shit existence in Europe you mention.
Don't really understand the pessimism about life in Cambodia.

EUROPE is as corrupt as the next man. Most under 40's don"t own anything once debt is taken into account. Youth unemployment is through the roof. Educating for no jobs. Working full time and having a negative each month. Human trafficking. Child prostitution. The list is endless.

Can't actually see many differences to be honest.

The weather in europe stinks too. A beer costs 4 bucks, and which western girl has ever cleaned your penis for you after sex?

That's a fine argument, taken from a point of view where you have a choice where to live.

Cambodians don't. Given the choice between living in a society where opportunities, free high quality healthcare, education, human rights, democracy, choice etc exists and where they don't I suspect if you asked the average Cambodian on the street they would jump at the chance.

It's not for no reason that Cambodia givesany old half-witted drunk reprobate nohoper the right to live in Cambodia, while the west has strict controls on who can live there. Supply and demand.
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Post by pedros » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:52 pm

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That's a fine argument, taken from a point of view where you have a choice where to live.

ns don't. Given the choice between living in a society where opportunities, free high quality healthcare, education, human rights, democracy, choice etc exists and where they don't I suspect if you asked the average n on the street they would jump at the chance.

It's not for no reason that givesany old half-witted drunk reprobate nohoper the right to live in , while the west has strict controls on who can live there. Supply and demand.

Ah, but the offspring of that half-witted drunken reprobate nohoper have the 'right' to a western passport and all the jollies that entails. For now....

Would you rather be the product of Somanang and Srey Mom (who, incidentally are also first cousins) or Srey Mom and Nose Hair Bob (who's nationality is a potential ticket out)?
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Post by Phuket2006 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:37 pm

ok;
english, french,american man marries a local at 48 and at 60 years old, he has a son and gets him a UK, French, US passport
he dies at 65, kid is 5 years old and they have been living in the sticks, a few Barangs come to mind and he has no savings
what good is that Western passport going to do for him??

What "rights" does he have living in Cambodia with a western passport? Surely no more than the Barang's that end up broke, on the streets in SR,PP or Shv.

True, if he has $$$ an has put the kid thru an international school and he can speak the language of his dad its a different story...... but at 5 years old......
he's still shit out of luck
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Post by youngwill100 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:46 pm

Interesting OP.
I'm 64 and have just had a baby with my khmer girlfriend.
According to one of those crap 'how long are you going to live' websites, I've only got another three and a half years left.
I figure when I die, that at least the kid will have an Aussie and/or U.K. passport plus an apartment, some money and a share in a few businesses here.
Plus I have a 24 year old daughter so she will hopefully get involved to some extent.
I have noticed an increasing number of fairly decrepit barangs with very young children around PP. I guess they do face mixed futures depending on the financial status of their foreigner fathers.


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Post by RobW » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:09 pm

youngwill100 wrote: a share in a few businesses here.
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Excellent. I'm not sure that the pimping business is handed down the generations that often. Hopefully your offspring will expand and develop it and your grandchildren will be proudly punting out the bitches too, maybe selling worldwide franchises. :D
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Post by Lucky Lucan » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:32 pm

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I'm 64
WTF? I've never met you, but I had you down as a worldly 29-year-old or something.
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Post by DF » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:03 pm

So what's the verdict gmac? You gonna give her your full load now, or wait a little?
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Post by Lucky Lucan » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:18 pm

DF wrote:So what's the verdict gmac? You gonna give her your full load now, or wait a little?
He's missed that boat* by a bit.






*"Dodged that bullet" might be another way of putting it.
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Post by gavinmac » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:32 pm

youngwill100 wrote: I guess they do face mixed futures depending on the financial status of their foreigner fathers.

I would suggest they have uncertain futures regardless of the financial status of the fathers. Even if the fathers have money, is there really a way to create an ironclad trust in Cambodia that prevents the mother and her parents and relations from blowing all the money? Even a well-intentioned mother was inexperienced with money or overly trusting of family could get fleeced pretty easily.

Don't fathers with money have to keep it in a Western country in an ironclad hereditary trust if they want their kid to see it in 15-20 years?

I think would I would do in this situation is create a hereditary trust that says "My money and income from my money can be used by my wife during her lifetime for her expenses and for raising my kid. Then, when my wife dies, the kid gets the remainder." Or "my wife gets $2000 a month during her lifetime then the kid gets the rest when she dies"

If the wife just gets everything free and clear when you die, she could squander it, or she could leave it to her parents/siblings/other children when she dies. That's not good.
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Post by Miguelito » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:13 pm

DF wrote:So what's the verdict gmac? You gonna give her your full load now, or wait a little?
Vasectomy.
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