Am going to fly from PP to Burma in 2 weeks for a week or 2,
Can anyone recommend a cheapish hotel , places to eat and drink,
good places to meet model girls,
Cheers, Guys
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How much was the flight?deednumtie wrote:Am going to fly from PP to Burma in 2 weeks for a week or 2,
Can anyone recommend a cheapish hotel , places to eat and drink,
good places to meet model girls,
Cheers, Guys
I've had 2 people in the last week tell me to MAKE SURE u book accommodation for ur WHOLE trip in advance....
Agree with hotels, book everything you can and get written confirmations.
For models and channel 3 superstars even, stay in Bangcock.
For models and channel 3 superstars even, stay in Bangcock.
I ended up in a place in Yangon with some very nice local ladies and some eastern European girls, plenty to choose from, dunno where I was though.
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Plenty of cheap guesthouses,see the lonely planet.
Model girls are tall but plain,but the Chinese local businessmen like them.There are some pretty girls in the clubs but they are expensive and pushy.
The girls make bugger all,the establishments and the girls pimps take the money-forget it.
Model girls are tall but plain,but the Chinese local businessmen like them.There are some pretty girls in the clubs but they are expensive and pushy.
The girls make bugger all,the establishments and the girls pimps take the money-forget it.
East Hotel, opposite Traders, - $60. Clover Hotel - $70, both new - although I've not stayed in either yet. Plenty of budget options on TA or Agoda if you like what look like depressing, stark, dimly lit, grime-caked rooms in terrible locations. I honestly wouldn't even take a whore back to any of those places.
Emperor Club and JJ's (at least three venues within the latter), Pioneer has wall-to-wall cake at the weekends. Also at the weekends, Park View has packs of freelancers but most of then have the BMI of a large whale and the draft Tiger's fucking extortionate. Expect to be pestered beyond belief if you accidentally make eye contact with any of those hounds. All the other places have pretty cheap beer. 50th Street Bar and Grill, is ok for early evening boozing although it's always pretty quiet and I've only ever seen one girl there and she had a fag in her mouth the whole time even when she was playing pool. Great, local beer everywhere. The street food's - for the most part - fucking minging, however, Anawrahta Road (the large, wide east / west running boulevard, south of Traders) has some good, busy Indian restaurants on the north side). Chinatown has a nice ambience mid-evening. The clubs are completely devoid of any young, white competition.
Emperor Club and JJ's (at least three venues within the latter), Pioneer has wall-to-wall cake at the weekends. Also at the weekends, Park View has packs of freelancers but most of then have the BMI of a large whale and the draft Tiger's fucking extortionate. Expect to be pestered beyond belief if you accidentally make eye contact with any of those hounds. All the other places have pretty cheap beer. 50th Street Bar and Grill, is ok for early evening boozing although it's always pretty quiet and I've only ever seen one girl there and she had a fag in her mouth the whole time even when she was playing pool. Great, local beer everywhere. The street food's - for the most part - fucking minging, however, Anawrahta Road (the large, wide east / west running boulevard, south of Traders) has some good, busy Indian restaurants on the north side). Chinatown has a nice ambience mid-evening. The clubs are completely devoid of any young, white competition.
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If you have time, get the visa before you leave. We had a 2 hour wait on arrival. And take pristine dollar bills, Burmese are way fussier than Khmers about notes.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
It's low season now; completely unnecessary to book hotels in advance. I spent the last month there (Yangon, Inle Lake, Bagan and a few other places) and didn't pre-book anything.cambod wrote:I've had 2 people in the last week tell me to MAKE SURE u book accommodation for ur WHOLE trip in advance....
They are indeed much more picky than Khmer about the condition of the money although I think they are getting better; I had plenty of mint currency but tried to spend the folded, marked, creased, dirty dollars I had left over from Cambodia just to see what would happen. I didn't have anything rejected. Any Cambodian bank should change your dirty currency for clean on request though so no harm doing this. (Canadia swapped $1,500 for me no problem.)
Are you there now? The hotel situation in Rangoon is still shit. It'll be shit all year, low or high season. I'm talking hotels though, not guest houses, 3- 5 stars.
No, I'm back in Bangkok. I am pretty cheap though, was staying in cheapest places possible while there. Accommodation was horrendously bad value compared to any other country in the region; a lot of money for shit and in many cases they wouldn't negotiate even with a completely empty hotel. I was paying 5x+ the cost of Bangkok, which is ridiculous. Maybe it will change as they open up and get more tourists and more competition; certainly locals were optimistic that things were changing and being on the road to democracy. A lot of NLD stickers and T-Shirts about. I'd actually give it a higher chance of being properly democratic in the near future than Cambodia. Only East or South East Asian country I've been to where people seemed actively interested in politics.SunSan wrote:Are you there now? The hotel situation in Rangoon is still shit. It'll be shit all year, low or high season. I'm talking hotels though, not guest houses, 3- 5 stars.
I don't know about getting a specific level of hotel but you certainly wouldn't be stuck for a room without reservations, at the moment.
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SunSan wrote:Are you there now? The hotel situation in Rangoon is still shit. It'll be shit all year, low or high season. I'm talking hotels though, not guest houses, 3- 5 stars.
Agree. You get better value for money in Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam imo, but I think this also applies to guesthouses, but I was only there once, and for a few days.
SunSan, what is your opinion of Cambodian vs. Burmese food? I never thought I'd say this, but I was so glad to get back!Separate thread, maybe. Myanmar beer was OK, but more expensive.
ירי ילדים והפצצת אזרחים דורש אומץ, כמו גם הטרדה מינית של עובדי ההוראה.
Says it all. In Burma eat Indian or Chinese or maybe Shan.vladimir wrote:...
SunSan, what is your opinion of Cambodian vs. Burmese food? I never thought I'd say this, but I was so glad to get back!...
The food is horrendous. You can get a good example, but in the main, really really oily and a small number of dishes exactly the same everywhere. The last time I saw this level of sameness was in Iran, and the two vie for the accolade of the worst food in existence. Northern Lao would probably also be there, simply as there often isn't any food there at all, in the remoter parts, but the rest of the country is fine. All these places have other points that redeem them however.
In Burma the greasyness is just unbelievable; they actually have a substantial ethnically Indian population but they have adapted to Burmese taste and the street samosas, bhajees and so on are completely different to street food in India, and not in a good way. Imagine a samosa but you bite in and it is almost all oil with a touch of potato and you get the idea. I did have a good biryanyi in a Muslim Indian place in Yangon.
Having said that, I did have what was probably my best meal in SE Asia, maybe in all of Asia, in Nyungshwe (Inle lake) at Viewpoint. More expensive than normal but very good value for the food, service and location. It is basically upscale reworkings of local dishes with an extensive (14 dish?) tasting menu and it was absolutely excellent. There is also a winery up the road which produces really good quality wines, which was quite a surprise.
In Burma the greasyness is just unbelievable; they actually have a substantial ethnically Indian population but they have adapted to Burmese taste and the street samosas, bhajees and so on are completely different to street food in India, and not in a good way. Imagine a samosa but you bite in and it is almost all oil with a touch of potato and you get the idea. I did have a good biryanyi in a Muslim Indian place in Yangon.
Having said that, I did have what was probably my best meal in SE Asia, maybe in all of Asia, in Nyungshwe (Inle lake) at Viewpoint. More expensive than normal but very good value for the food, service and location. It is basically upscale reworkings of local dishes with an extensive (14 dish?) tasting menu and it was absolutely excellent. There is also a winery up the road which produces really good quality wines, which was quite a surprise.
I think the wine maker there is a Frenchman with a big budget to play with, I was quite impressed, good branding too...still room for improvement. Beats the pants off that one in Battambang.
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