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Another annoying TEFL post.
For starters I've read almost every post over the past 160 days on this page. I understand the teaching market in Cambodia is strongly in favor of white, educated females. I also know jobs can be hard to come by, I have a better chance of finding a job in Vietnam or Myanmar, and I will make more money at one of these places.
Okay, so I'm still set on Cambodia. With a degree in Business Administration and a CELTA, I'm a white young male, would I be able to find a job there?
Also, from what I've read there are 4 terms in the school year. The current one ending in May, and starting again in August. Is this correct?
Finally, if it is possible for me to find work, do you have a reccomended amount of cash I should bring to get me on my feet?
Gracias amigos
Okay, so I'm still set on Cambodia. With a degree in Business Administration and a CELTA, I'm a white young male, would I be able to find a job there?
Also, from what I've read there are 4 terms in the school year. The current one ending in May, and starting again in August. Is this correct?
Finally, if it is possible for me to find work, do you have a reccomended amount of cash I should bring to get me on my feet?
Gracias amigos
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Like LS said, there is no best time.
1. Buy a 1 year open-ended round-trip plane ticket. If you do want to stay longer, you will definitely want stuff from home. Then you can try a cheaper one-way ticket.
2. Bring at least $12,000. The first few months will be quite expensive until you find an apartment near work, and can cook at home.
3. Read more than just the past 160 days of this forum.
4. Re-analyze your reasons for being set on Cambodia. So many teachers with decades of experience are leaving, not just because of salaries. You can find many ot their stories online.
1. Buy a 1 year open-ended round-trip plane ticket. If you do want to stay longer, you will definitely want stuff from home. Then you can try a cheaper one-way ticket.
2. Bring at least $12,000. The first few months will be quite expensive until you find an apartment near work, and can cook at home.
3. Read more than just the past 160 days of this forum.
4. Re-analyze your reasons for being set on Cambodia. So many teachers with decades of experience are leaving, not just because of salaries. You can find many ot their stories online.
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You ok hon?Devilsight wrote:People on this forum are so friendly! Lol..
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A very, very small percentage of people who are planning to move to Cambodia to teach English have $12,000.chkwoot wrote:.
2. Bring at least $12,000. The first few months will be quite expensive until you find an apartment near work, and can cook at home.
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[/quote]You ok hon?[/quote]
I'm honestly not okay but it has nothing to do with this post. Thank you for asking.
I'm honestly not okay but it has nothing to do with this post. Thank you for asking.
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i have a friend from the states. he went to Vietnam, took the CELTA 1 month course,
was teaching 2 days after he finished ( last friday) and already picked up a few hours as a substitute teacher at what he says better $$ than Cambodia (he had lived in Cambodia previously but not as a teacher) he, so far, loves Saigon.
If ur already have the celta i'd say,one way ticket, bring only ur clothes, ur latop and any books u like & $6,000-$7,000 min.( will last ya 4 months at least) Leave some $$ on the bank back home. if u dont have a job by than go back
was teaching 2 days after he finished ( last friday) and already picked up a few hours as a substitute teacher at what he says better $$ than Cambodia (he had lived in Cambodia previously but not as a teacher) he, so far, loves Saigon.
If ur already have the celta i'd say,one way ticket, bring only ur clothes, ur latop and any books u like & $6,000-$7,000 min.( will last ya 4 months at least) Leave some $$ on the bank back home. if u dont have a job by than go back
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Would you really need about 6 or 7 thousand coming over here to start? I have more than that in the bank but was planning on coming over here with about 3 grand to start off. I plan on living pretty simple. About 200 a month on rent. Not gonna be boozing, drugging, or whoring every night.
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What kind of work experience do you have?
Did the coursework for your Business Administration degree have a particular focus?
How about your dissertation/major research paper?
Dude, there are plenty of jobs in Cambodia outside of teaching. You've got some decent qualifications, I'll assume you have some workplace experience. Why not get a job with some kind of career path? Don't get me wrong, this is coming from a career *ahem* teacher with a Master's in TESOL. I've almost always taught at the upper end of the spectrum in real (as in accredited) international schools all over S-EA, including Myanmar, Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia and Laos, as well as South Korea and Turkey. I love teaching and I've done okay out of it, but for every one of me there's a bunch of not-me's.
As former owner of this site, the late, largely lamented Keeping it Riel once sagely pointed out, "There's nothing sadder than the walk of a Bangkok TEFL teacher". Do try to keep that in mind, I do.
While you consider that nugget, here something else to keep you occupied...
http://www.camhr.com/
http://www.hrinc.com.kh/
http://www.cra.com.kh/
http://www.topjobcambodia.com/
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/jobs/
http://www.bongthom.com/jobs/default.asp
http://www.expat.com/en/jobs/asia/cambodia/
https://www.everjobs.com.kh/en/jobs-phnom_penh/
https://www.learn4good.com/jobs/languag ... /cambodia/
BUT MOST OF ALL READ THIS!!!!!
http://www.khmer440.com/k/2013/07/7-rea ... -cambodia/
Did the coursework for your Business Administration degree have a particular focus?
How about your dissertation/major research paper?
Dude, there are plenty of jobs in Cambodia outside of teaching. You've got some decent qualifications, I'll assume you have some workplace experience. Why not get a job with some kind of career path? Don't get me wrong, this is coming from a career *ahem* teacher with a Master's in TESOL. I've almost always taught at the upper end of the spectrum in real (as in accredited) international schools all over S-EA, including Myanmar, Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia and Laos, as well as South Korea and Turkey. I love teaching and I've done okay out of it, but for every one of me there's a bunch of not-me's.
As former owner of this site, the late, largely lamented Keeping it Riel once sagely pointed out, "There's nothing sadder than the walk of a Bangkok TEFL teacher". Do try to keep that in mind, I do.
While you consider that nugget, here something else to keep you occupied...
http://www.camhr.com/
http://www.hrinc.com.kh/
http://www.cra.com.kh/
http://www.topjobcambodia.com/
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/jobs/
http://www.bongthom.com/jobs/default.asp
http://www.expat.com/en/jobs/asia/cambodia/
https://www.everjobs.com.kh/en/jobs-phnom_penh/
https://www.learn4good.com/jobs/languag ... /cambodia/
BUT MOST OF ALL READ THIS!!!!!
http://www.khmer440.com/k/2013/07/7-rea ... -cambodia/
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1. Yes, you will find a job relatively easily.
2. Several schools have a summer break in July, so don’t job-hunt then. Try May/June for those schools.
3. You can survive on very little here..12K was a joke, I suspect, $4K or even 2K would be ample to tide you over until you get work.
4. Read my post on finding an apartment…read this: http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... an#p559162
5. Try ACE first, as you have a CELTA, then the better schools, NBIS, Footprints, CIA, Logos, Southbridge etc. Email them first, but you will still need to
visit in person with most of them
2. Several schools have a summer break in July, so don’t job-hunt then. Try May/June for those schools.
3. You can survive on very little here..12K was a joke, I suspect, $4K or even 2K would be ample to tide you over until you get work.
4. Read my post on finding an apartment…read this: http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/view ... an#p559162
5. Try ACE first, as you have a CELTA, then the better schools, NBIS, Footprints, CIA, Logos, Southbridge etc. Email them first, but you will still need to
visit in person with most of them
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I'm sensing sarcasm. Sorry if I'm mistaken, and sorry if I came across as unfriendly!Devilsight wrote:People on this forum are so friendly! Lol..
No Vlad, $12k wasn't a joke. Maybe I should have said to bring $4k, and have another $8k available (atm, credit cards, western union from family, etc). $12,000 should keep most frugal newbies alive for 12 months, unless they have vices which they're unable to control. Finding a good job, acceptable residence, and reliable transportation can take months.
For example:
When you land, you'll pay $35 for voa then $10 for a taxi or tuk tuk. Let's say you're lucky, and you find a nice, safe, centrally located guesthouse. How much per month for a long-term (30 days) stay? $500? (I really don't know. In 2006 I was paying $400/month at Flamingos. It wasn't so bad back then!). For relatively safe restaurant meals, I would budget at least $300/mo., not including drinks. Transportation to and from job interviews and apartment hunts, will vary greatly but let's very conservatively say it's $5/day, which you could alternately use to rent your own moto. Your 1 year visa renewal will cost $290. Laundry will be $20(?). So far, that's about $1300 for the first month (or $1000 without the visa expense).
When you find an apartment (do look at Vladimir's guide), you'll need first and last and deposit, good (expensive) locks, cookware, cleaning supplies, bedding, etc. Will you have a maid? Laundry expenses will go up because you will now also need to wash your sheets, towels, pillows, etc. If you buy a moto, you really should get an expensive lock, quality helmet, and liability (at least) insurance. Etc. Etc.
There are so many expenses that you won't know about until you are here. That's why I said you should have $12,000 to start. If everything goes perfectly (ha ha...this is Cambodia for God's sake!), by the end of your first year you could have a nice little nest egg started. If things go shitty, then you won't need to collect cans, or inject saline into your leg to look more pitiful when you beg, or sell drugs with GSM tweakers, or scam airbnb users, or start a gofundme campaign, or show up destitute at your embassy, etc.
Does that make sense? Do I come across as being nice? I sincerely hope so!
Welcome to the forum and good luck!
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I would guess he would get a job within 2 weeks.
He's single (I think) so a guesthouse for the first month, $150-200 if he's being frugal.
OP, let us know how long it takes you to get a job, please.
He's single (I think) so a guesthouse for the first month, $150-200 if he's being frugal.
OP, let us know how long it takes you to get a job, please.
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vladimir wrote:I would guess he would get a job within 2 weeks.
He's single (I think) so a guesthouse for the first month, $150-200 if he's being frugal.
OP, let us know how long it takes you to get a job, please.
I would agree - can't think of what you would possibly need $12k for. that would do one year without a job if you lived sensibly.
Also from my experience you wont have to wait longer than 2 months to find a job, even if it just a temporary one to tide you over for something better.
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