Where to start becoming an English Teacher
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It can, yes. However knowing what a school does and doesn't do...drug testing, background checks ,etc. in the context of the environment - comparing and contrasting with others - is more useful. Don't you agree? Also, knowing the extent of background checks for example.... Is it every teacher, or a select few, and only after a probation period rather than before stepping foot in the classroom without another employee there? Is the police background check only for home country or does it extend to other countries domiciled in for a certain period of time?
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Yes, would be hard not to agree with that statement.violet wrote:It can, yes. However knowing what a school does and doesn't do...drug testing, background checks ,etc. in the context of the environment - comparing and contrasting with others - is more useful. Don't you agree?
However, whilst I don't know epidemiks and have never knowingly met him, I think I am safe in presuming that he is not going to poll every school in Cambodia on their hiring policies.
With that in mind I would say, as is almost entirely the case, that some information is better than no information
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I think that it's a fair question, especially considering that based on this this thread all schools may be required to do this.violet wrote:^asking that question of one school in isolation gives a skewed insight. Why not go poll all schools of interest and report back findings?
He's asking Home of English because someone posted from there on this thread, and because of their past history. It's a pretty straight forward question, what's the issue?
If a restaurateur were asked "do you ensure that all of your shellfish are properly handled?", you wouldn't say "whoa, this is Cambodia, let's check with all other restaurants as well as this is an unfair question without context." No, you would want to know if that oyster they're serving has been dead for the last two days or not, regardless of what other places are doing.
Its nothing personal against the poster, or the school, and there is no other context needed besides his post.ReasonstobefearfulP3 wrote:Yes, would be hard not to agree with that statement.violet wrote:It can, yes. However knowing what a school does and doesn't do...drug testing, background checks ,etc. in the context of the environment - comparing and contrasting with others - is more useful. Don't you agree?
However, whilst I don't know epidemiks and have never knowingly met him, I think I am safe in presuming that he is not going to poll every school in Cambodia on their hiring policies.
With that in mind I would say, as is almost entirely the case, that some information is better than no information
He chimed in to defend the rigour of their no rif raff policy. Presumably they do this to protect students.
Requiring criminal record checks is notably absent from his reply, given its effectiveness in rooting out riff raff that have no place being given duty of care of other people's children.
Current climate or otherwise, there's no good reason to not develop and phase in a policy which requires it for the protection of children. It's really quite simple.
I haven't done a detailed audit of all international schools that require criminal record checks here.
There is no point: there are none*
* if there are any, none I have seen publish the requirement in job listings.
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It was just a joke referring to some of the members here who worked at Home of English years ago.Michael_Ekans wrote:On behalf of Home of English International, we don't accept riff raff, I don't know where Lucan gets his information, and I have no clue why he wishes to slander us as I've only been friendly to him. For the record, we only accept people with experience and relevant credentials. Not only that but all applicants must teach a demo class to demonstrate competent teaching abilities. I hope that clears things up.
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So I did a 15 minute audit, and here are the schools found that publish a CRC requirement as of May 2018:
ISPP
Northbridge
Footprints
HOPE (for parent volunteers)
HOPE (for teachers)
CISPP
Learning Jungle
No check required, or requirement not published online:
BISPP
iCan - nothing published
Home of English - nothing published
ISPP
Northbridge
Footprints
HOPE (for parent volunteers)
HOPE (for teachers)
CISPP
Learning Jungle
No check required, or requirement not published online:
BISPP
iCan - nothing published
Home of English - nothing published
- Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint
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epidemiks wrote: iCan - nothing published
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inte ... itation--2
David Hunt, Vice Principal of iCAN British International School said:
The safety of our young people, both online and in the real world is a priority for us and we were delighted to twice host the CEOP ‘International Child Protection Network Safeguarding Children Training’. This has enabled our staff and other key professionals here in Cambodia working with children, to equip young people with the skills necessary to ensure they are safe.
At iCAN we require all our teachers to have a current criminal records clearance, or equivalent for non-UK nationals. The introduction of the new International Child Protection Certificate (ICPC) here in Cambodia, and around the world, will enable prospective British teachers who are not holding current clearances to request an ICPC to provide for prospective employers. This is a great step towards making all organisations working with children, much safer places.
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So is it fair to say that Home of English, the school that hired convicted fugitive child pornography aficionado Eric Erdmann, is one of the few schools that does not perform or require criminal background checks of all teachers it hires?
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Haha. No, it isn't fair to say it is one of the few schools. The list of schools foreigners in PP are working at is very long, and not anything near what epidemiks posted.gavinmac wrote:So is it fair to say that Home of English, the school that hired convicted fugitive child pornography aficionado Eric Erdmann, is one of the few schools that does not perform or require criminal background checks of all teachers it hires?
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Good find. They don't state anything on their website or any of the job ads I found.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:epidemiks wrote: iCan - nothing published
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inte ... itation--2
David Hunt, Vice Principal of iCAN British International School said:
The safety of our young people, both online and in the real world is a priority for us and we were delighted to twice host the CEOP ‘International Child Protection Network Safeguarding Children Training’. This has enabled our staff and other key professionals here in Cambodia working with children, to equip young people with the skills necessary to ensure they are safe.
At iCAN we require all our teachers to have a current criminal records clearance, or equivalent for non-UK nationals. The introduction of the new International Child Protection Certificate (ICPC) here in Cambodia, and around the world, will enable prospective British teachers who are not holding current clearances to request an ICPC to provide for prospective employers. This is a great step towards making all organisations working with children, much safer places.
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