No, seen it.General-Z wrote:LoL, I hope that's sarcasm at its finest.andyinasia wrote:
Also Jaundice
How do I get my girlfriend to exist?
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Um, jaundice is a sign of a problem, not an actual problem.StroppyChops wrote:No, seen it.General-Z wrote:LoL, I hope that's sarcasm at its finest.andyinasia wrote:
Also Jaundice
That's like saying someone with Tuberculosis needs to be treated for a "cough."
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I guess that's different from the US, where a passport is proof of citizenship. You don't get a US passport if you're not a citizen.1894 wrote:I am a British Citizen born in Britain to British Parents,my children were born in Cambodia and i have a Khmer Wife. My Children are Dual Passport Holders but they are not or neither recognised as British Citizens by the British Embassy,
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You're right, of course. Man, it's hot.General-Z wrote:Um, jaundice is a sign of a problem, not an actual problem.StroppyChops wrote:No, seen it.General-Z wrote:LoL, I hope that's sarcasm at its finest.andyinasia wrote:
Also Jaundice
That's like saying someone with Tuberculosis needs to be treated for a "cough."
Are non-citizen British passports marked as such on the physical passport? Or is it just some national registry in the UK that records this difference?gavinmac wrote:I guess that's different from the US, where a passport is proof of citizenship. You don't get a US passport if you're not a citizen.1894 wrote:I am a British Citizen born in Britain to British Parents,my children were born in Cambodia and i have a Khmer Wife. My Children are Dual Passport Holders but they are not or neither recognised as British Citizens by the British Embassy,
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Less than $1,500 should solve all the Cambodian issues. She should be able to get a Family book, ID card and birth certificate.
I know many that were not born in Cambodia and speak fluent Khmer but have all these documents.
Money talks and bullshit walks.
I believe that given enough money I could get a birth certificate certifying I am a Cambodian Cow!
I know there will be detractors but I know for sure a case where a woman was born in another country but grew up in Cambodia was issued with an ID card and family book with a totally different birth year. This gave her a passport.
Later when she needed a birth certifi8cate to get a visa to live in a first world country, $150 solved the issue. The person in question is now a citizen of a first world country.
I know many that were not born in Cambodia and speak fluent Khmer but have all these documents.
Money talks and bullshit walks.
I believe that given enough money I could get a birth certificate certifying I am a Cambodian Cow!
I know there will be detractors but I know for sure a case where a woman was born in another country but grew up in Cambodia was issued with an ID card and family book with a totally different birth year. This gave her a passport.
Later when she needed a birth certifi8cate to get a visa to live in a first world country, $150 solved the issue. The person in question is now a citizen of a first world country.
Note to self: Must be nice to morons.
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1894 wrote:I am a British Citizen born in Britain to British Parents,my children were born in Cambodia and i have a Khmer Wife. My Children are Dual Passport Holders but they are not or neither recognised as British Citizens by the British Embassy,
The Embassy have told me that to be recognized as,they must be in Britain for a minimum period of 5 Years and apply for naturalization . If anyone has children born to a Khmer Wife and are recognized as British Citizens ,i would appreciate any help on how it was done.
At the moment i seem to have gotten as far as possible with the Embassy. Thanks
I think you have severely misunderstood the information from the embassy.
If you hold a British passport you are a citizen of Britain.
Your children are definitely entitled to British Citizenship by descent.
However unless their children (your grandchildren) are born in Britain they (your children) are not entitled to pass on British citizenship to their children.
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Meanwhile having just Irish grandparents gets your kid an EU pass.andyinasia wrote:Bastards have changed the rules. Having British parents doesn't make the kid British any more.General-Z wrote:This can't be accurate, surely?1894 wrote: To become a British Citizen the child will have to stay 5 continuous years in the U.K and then can apply for Naturalisation.
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Somewhat surprisingly, not always true. I had thought the same, until I read the links below which explains things simply. Apparently you can be a British national (and get a British passport) but not be a British citizen. And not have right of residency in the UK.LaudJohn wrote:
I think you have severely misunderstood the information from the embassy.
If you hold a British passport you are a citizen of Britain.
I think a lot of the complexity surrounding citizenship, eligibility for British passports and right to residency in the UK etc is due to the UK government trying to weasel out of granting UK residency rights to all its colonial citizens. I think the UK government at the time feared a massive influx of non-white people into the UK.
There was a huge outrage years ago in Hong Kong when the UK government refused UK residency rights to the three million locals there, in the years leading up to the handover of Hong Kong back to China.
https://www.gov.uk/browse/citizenship/citizenship
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_ ... (Overseas)
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You are reading this incorrectly. If your children have a British birth certificate and passport they are British citizens (you don't need be born the uk to get a British birth certificate). The parts you are referring to are about British overseas territories which is not relevant most British expats.
As long as you were born in the UK to British parents your children are automatically UK citizens by decsent:
British Citizenship can be acquired in the following ways:
lex soli: By birth in the UK to a parent who is a British citizen at the time of the birth, or to a parent who is settled in the UK
lex sanguinis: By birth abroad, which constitutes "by descent" if one of the parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent (for example by birth, adoption, registration or naturalisation in the UK). British citizenship by descent is only transferable to one generation down from the parent who is a British citizen otherwise than by descent, if the child is born abroad.
As long as you were born in the UK to British parents your children are automatically UK citizens by decsent:
British Citizenship can be acquired in the following ways:
lex soli: By birth in the UK to a parent who is a British citizen at the time of the birth, or to a parent who is settled in the UK
lex sanguinis: By birth abroad, which constitutes "by descent" if one of the parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent (for example by birth, adoption, registration or naturalisation in the UK). British citizenship by descent is only transferable to one generation down from the parent who is a British citizen otherwise than by descent, if the child is born abroad.
Exactly.
'Special' passports (used in that way) are marked as such in the 'observations' section. Some special passports (ie for british overseas citizens) don't give you full citizenship rights, but if you have a regular passport, regardless of the british birth certificate, which isn't required, you're a citizen.
Either the embassy are talking shoe-making, which wouldn't surprise in the least, or you're misunderstanding them.
'Special' passports (used in that way) are marked as such in the 'observations' section. Some special passports (ie for british overseas citizens) don't give you full citizenship rights, but if you have a regular passport, regardless of the british birth certificate, which isn't required, you're a citizen.
Either the embassy are talking shoe-making, which wouldn't surprise in the least, or you're misunderstanding them.
Still, if I were you, I would try the Sangkat. In the early 2000's, when this program was in place, the NGO enforced really flexible conditions for a birth certificate to be given out, because loads of people didn't have parents anymore, were dislocated etc etc. Local chiefs were paid to do house visits, to make sure everybody was met. I know this is Cambodia, ad i know local chiefs may not have been visiting all places, but they were under pressure to 'deliver'. If a certificate has been given out, it's in the book, and a copy can be obtained at minimal costs and effort, and the embassy has nothing to worry/fuss about. And believe me, don't trust the missus on her determination there's no certificate. I've seen different cases, just as determined as your missus that there was none - but after checking there were certificates. At least they could be found in the book. I give you no guarantees, just a best shot.Nabokov wrote:Kachang wrote:
> To check this, you can go to the Sangkat she lived in in the early 2000's and check
> the books the birth certificates were registered in.
We're going back a bit longer here. Her parents died in 1991, and the aunt she stayed with in Battambang only met the father once and didn't know his family name.
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> Next option: a family book. Does she have one? This might open doors too.
No, she doesn't have a family book. She has some cousins and distant relatives who have, but everyone is on her mothers side.
Kachang wrote:
> Does your baby have a birth certificate already?
The baby hasn't been born yet, and that's part of the reason I'm worrying now. We need her details on the birth certificate, and need to get her medical details printed again with her name. The embassy wants echo scans and medical reports, and these have a counterfeit name on at the moment. I'm sure I can pay the right people in Calmette to 'update' her details and reprint the scan, but getting the birth certificate redone is a lot trickier. Especially a the British embassy will be playing Sherlock.
Barang_doa_slae wrote:
> there's no such thing as income tax.
I don't pay any, but was told there was supposed to be Tax on Profit? I mention tax because I casually asked her, after finding out that HE's wife owns her market, if she pays ToP, and she said, "All fees are included in her shop rental price".
Good luck. I know from my own experience if the paperwork is OK it's a road to hell (took me 1,5 years to get it all organised, with all the paperwork OK...) to arrange a foreign passport for a Cambodian born, but with some document(s) lacking it must be even worse...
The problem is proving it. Proving you are the biological father of a child is pretty hard. You can provide documents, but any foreign embassy will treat Cambodian documents with 'suspicion', at least. And embassies are in no hurry to provide citizenship, because it's a second one, and hence not something needed immediately.starkmonster wrote:You are reading this incorrectly. If your children have a British birth certificate and passport they are British citizens (you don't need be born the uk to get a British birth certificate). The parts you are referring to are about British overseas territories which is not relevant most British expats.
As long as you were born in the UK to British parents your children are automatically UK citizens by decsent:
British Citizenship can be acquired in the following ways:
lex soli: By birth in the UK to a parent who is a British citizen at the time of the birth, or to a parent who is settled in the UK
lex sanguinis: By birth abroad, which constitutes "by descent" if one of the parents is a British citizen otherwise than by descent (for example by birth, adoption, registration or naturalisation in the UK). British citizenship by descent is only transferable to one generation down from the parent who is a British citizen otherwise than by descent, if the child is born abroad.
Actually, fathers are apparently in such a short supply that just filling in a form that says "I am the father" is sufficient. They don't have any other requirements.
If the Sangkat effort fails (shouldn't do as money will always work), then you could try finding a willing family (with documents) to "adopt" her. Just a matter of paying a Sangkat chief ($30 in my experience) to have her put in the adopting families family book. All other documents can be got from that via usual procedures.
If the Sangkat effort fails (shouldn't do as money will always work), then you could try finding a willing family (with documents) to "adopt" her. Just a matter of paying a Sangkat chief ($30 in my experience) to have her put in the adopting families family book. All other documents can be got from that via usual procedures.
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