For me it was easier to collect the info in my home country than with the embassy, embassy didn't seem interested in informing me, to be honest....Joon wrote:Yeah I was thinking that OP could get the info about what his girlfriend needs to present to get married in the US, since he's there.Kachang wrote:Since you're in the States now you might try to collect your info there too....Jsz wrote:I seem to recall reading that the document stating that the woman is not currently married was roughly translated as a "certificate of celibacy"? in English. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that I recall reading that. If that is true, I also appreciate the irony. Does anyone know for sure if that comes from the MFA versus the local police/Sangkat? I realize that these "laws" may change, or vary from person to person. Any chance anyone has some recent experience? I will visit the embassy as soon as I return, hopefully even if I have to pay for an appointment, I can get some definitive answers.
Pregnant Khmer girlfriend, help or hinder visa?
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place of birth is no reason for providing someone with a passport of that country
For America it IS
thats why there is the current trouble with all the Chinese traveling pregnant to the states to have their babies as being born on US soil entitles the baby to US citizenship
Back in the old days in the PI Pregnant girls were taking tours of US ships an taking meds to force labor so the child would be born on the ship and therefor US soil and get us Citizenship.
Note when applying for the visa any and all docs NOT in english need to officially translated ( the us embassy will provide u with the names of who they accept translations from)
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Wow, amazing. They'd better stop allowing pregnant women flying on their planes then..... And travelling on their ships. And visiting their embassies.....Phuket2006 wrote:place of birth is no reason for providing someone with a passport of that country
For America it IS
thats why there is the current trouble with all the Chinese traveling pregnant to the states to have their babies as being born on US soil entitles the baby to US citizenship
Back in the old days in the PI Pregnant girls were taking tours of US ships an taking meds to force labor so the child would be born on the ship and therefor US soil and get us Citizenship.
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Wouldn't that be because you failed to do so within the first month after birth ?Kachang wrote:Sure? I know for women having US nationality this is valid, since it's 100% sure it's their baby so it inherits nationality by birth, but maybe for men there's more to it than just taking the Cambodian birth certificate given out by the Sangkat to the embassy.....? Imagine all those Khmer women lining up for a passport for their baby with a US bloke's name in the certificate.... Claiming is one, I guess it's about having the right paperwork.Phuket2006 wrote:any child born of a US citizen anywhere, can claim US citizenship
Marriage is not a requirement.
I remember clearly to provide my daughter with my nationality (European, so no US, but yes I'm a man) I had to provide loads of paperwork (some of which MFA would not provide because we're not officially married, just like the OP) and even had to visit my home country to finalize the paperwork. All in all it took over 18 months time, several visits to MFA, a visit to the embassy in Bangkok (several due to my own mistake, one could have done) and visits to several government offices in my home country so sort it all out. Could have been faster, but no way I could have done it in a month or two.
And to the OP, go to the embassy and try to make an appointment for a conversation there to have yourself informed. Laws, esp. laws about immigration and visa, are not static, they change all the time and usually not in your favour. Most people here are referring to experiences in the past - situation might be different now.. Embassy should be able to to tell you.
In the mean time, you'd better look for a reliable hospital in Cambodia for your 'wife' to give birth. Chances are small she will give birth in the USA, and even if she does, place of birth is no reason for providing someone with a passport of that country. Even if born in the USA, you'd still have t present the same paperwork, whatever that is in your situation.
For french citizenship from father blood line, it goes from very easy with little paperwork if done immediately after birth to much more complicate if done within a year to even more complicate after that.
For me it was done in 10 minutes, on my own with the clinic birth certificate.
No, it's really difficult even if done straight after birth. Maybe complicated because my country has no embassy in Cambodia so all has to go through Bangkok.
I needed:
- A birth certificate, legalized by both MFA and our embassy in Bangkok, to be presented within 90 days after legalization by the embassy. The latter I wasn't aware of, they didn't tell me, so I legalized twice....
- Proof of myself having my Nationality, other than by passport (how on earth do you proof it? By your own birth certificate, only available back home....). This was reason one for having to go back.
- Proof of the mother of the child not being married to another man, legalized by both MFA and embassy in BKK, to be presented within 90 days of legalization. The latter was very, very difficult and became the family book in the end because MFA refused to legalize the document from the Sangkat.
- A legal document, made according to National laws, in which I recognize my daughter as being my child. Since it had to made by National law, I decided to have it made by National authorities.
The fact we were not married complicated stuff. Children born within marriage can walk a much easier route, strange enough, and don't need the last two documents. Instead, a legalized certificate of marriage will do. I know the government is changing this law, but as far as I know it hasn't passed yet. I guess there's not really a high priority for this kind of stuff back home.
I needed:
- A birth certificate, legalized by both MFA and our embassy in Bangkok, to be presented within 90 days after legalization by the embassy. The latter I wasn't aware of, they didn't tell me, so I legalized twice....
- Proof of myself having my Nationality, other than by passport (how on earth do you proof it? By your own birth certificate, only available back home....). This was reason one for having to go back.
- Proof of the mother of the child not being married to another man, legalized by both MFA and embassy in BKK, to be presented within 90 days of legalization. The latter was very, very difficult and became the family book in the end because MFA refused to legalize the document from the Sangkat.
- A legal document, made according to National laws, in which I recognize my daughter as being my child. Since it had to made by National law, I decided to have it made by National authorities.
The fact we were not married complicated stuff. Children born within marriage can walk a much easier route, strange enough, and don't need the last two documents. Instead, a legalized certificate of marriage will do. I know the government is changing this law, but as far as I know it hasn't passed yet. I guess there's not really a high priority for this kind of stuff back home.
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Barang_doa_slae wrote:Wouldn't that be because you failed to do so within the first month after birth ?Kachang wrote:Sure? I know for women having US nationality this is valid, since it's 100% sure it's their baby so it inherits nationality by birth, but maybe for men there's more to it than just taking the Cambodian birth certificate given out by the Sangkat to the embassy.....? Imagine all those Khmer women lining up for a passport for their baby with a US bloke's name in the certificate.... Claiming is one, I guess it's about having the right paperwork.Phuket2006 wrote:any child born of a US citizen anywhere, can claim US citizenship
Marriage is not a requirement.
I remember clearly to provide my daughter with my nationality (European, so no US, but yes I'm a man) I had to provide loads of paperwork (some of which MFA would not provide because we're not officially married, just like the OP) and even had to visit my home country to finalize the paperwork. All in all it took over 18 months time, several visits to MFA, a visit to the embassy in Bangkok (several due to my own mistake, one could have done) and visits to several government offices in my home country so sort it all out. Could have been faster, but no way I could have done it in a month or two.
And to the OP, go to the embassy and try to make an appointment for a conversation there to have yourself informed. Laws, esp. laws about immigration and visa, are not static, they change all the time and usually not in your favour. Most people here are referring to experiences in the past - situation might be different now.. Embassy should be able to to tell you.
In the mean time, you'd better look for a reliable hospital in Cambodia for your 'wife' to give birth. Chances are small she will give birth in the USA, and even if she does, place of birth is no reason for providing someone with a passport of that country. Even if born in the USA, you'd still have t present the same paperwork, whatever that is in your situation.
For french citizenship from father blood line, it goes from very easy with little paperwork if done immediately after birth to much more complicate if done within a year to even more complicate after that.
For me it was done in 10 minutes, on my own with the clinic birth certificate.
Phuket is quite correct. The parent claiming the ability to pass US citizenship to their child has the burden of proving the ability to do so (being a US citizen themselves) and I believe they have 18 years to do it. It is quite simple and marriage is not a requirement. Just schedule an appointment with the embassy to submit the proper forms and complete an interview of sorts.
The father or mother just needs to prove their US citizenship and connection to the child ie name on child's official birth certificate and sign an affidavit of financial support lasting 18 years. In some cases photos showing a relationship and/or a dna test can be required.
If the child seeks to do so on his/her own after they turn 18, then the process becomes a bit more protracted.
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Gavin, would you be a member of the tribe perchance? Your repeated usage of Yiddish would indicate an Ashkenazic lineage. If so, shalom.gavinmac wrote:I'd like to live here and shtup your daughter nightly.
As I am fascinated by your living arrangements. When encamped in Phnom Penh for any extended period and having procured your sexual entertainment for the evening (AKA bar-fined a prostitute), do you take her back to your primary living quarters or do you book a separate hotel room for such carnal activities, as to avoid any walk of shame?gavinmac wrote:I'm just fascinated by the living arrangements.
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Phnom Penh's American Embassy has the 4th highest rejection rate out of every US Embassy in the world in strict regards to the K1 visa. (my lawyervs words to my fiancee and I). It is complicated as all he'll and I can't imagine working FT and doing all this without a great attorney. I'd shoot for an American based immigration attorney.
Edit- the K1 visas are now averaging about 10-12 months from start to visa issuance.
Once the visa is issued, I do believe it's valid for 6 months. So you have 6 month max. To cross a US border. Probably best through the airport. Once accepted into America (fuck yeah!) , you and your Khmer fiancee have exactly 90 days to get legally married. Do that and then your lawyer can help you move onto getting her a green card so she can start to build a life.
Edit- the K1 visas are now averaging about 10-12 months from start to visa issuance.
Once the visa is issued, I do believe it's valid for 6 months. So you have 6 month max. To cross a US border. Probably best through the airport. Once accepted into America (fuck yeah!) , you and your Khmer fiancee have exactly 90 days to get legally married. Do that and then your lawyer can help you move onto getting her a green card so she can start to build a life.
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gavinmac got laid?gibbon arms wrote:As I am fascinated by your living arrangements. When encamped in Phnom Penh for any extended period and having procured your sexual entertainment for the evening (AKA bar-fined a prostitute), do you take her back to your primary living quarters or do you book a separate hotel room for such carnal activities, as to avoid any walk of shame?
That explains the recent sunspots.
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u really dont need a lawyer to help you with all this;
its very easy, step by step
do one step, they check it off an give you the next step.
get married at a justice of the peace very cheap
She can get a SS card right away after ur married an start work ( if she can find a job)
apply for green card, depends on which state u live in how long, Northern Ca , took my ex thai wife 18 months to get her green card.
its very easy, step by step
do one step, they check it off an give you the next step.
get married at a justice of the peace very cheap
She can get a SS card right away after ur married an start work ( if she can find a job)
apply for green card, depends on which state u live in how long, Northern Ca , took my ex thai wife 18 months to get her green card.
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How on earth... OP doesn't even have a job.... Soon he'll have a baby to support too.DetroitMuscle wrote:Phnom Penh's American Embassy has the 4th highest rejection rate out of every US Embassy in the world in strict regards to the K1 visa. (my lawyervs words to my fiancee and I). It is complicated as all he'll and I can't imagine working FT and doing all this without a great attorney. I'd shoot for an American based immigration attorney.
Edit- the K1 visas are now averaging about 10-12 months from start to visa issuance.
Once the visa is issued, I do believe it's valid for 6 months. So you have 6 month max. To cross a US border. Probably best through the airport. Once accepted into America (fuck yeah!) , you and your Khmer fiancee have exactly 90 days to get legally married. Do that and then your lawyer can help you move onto getting her a green card so she can start to build a life.
I did all this a while back (aside from getting her pregnant), been married a year now
K1 visa application was easier to complete than my taxes.
If you have a little reading comprehension, don't waste any money on a lawyer.
Your wife to be will need a police check $50 and the "Certificate of single status" $20, both of these were very painless to acquire, then you need them translated to the English $15.
Medical exam is also an easy process and another $100.
If you can get your Mom/Dad or a brother/sister to complete a co-sponsor form then you don't need to worry about showing income at the embassy interview. In lieu of income you can also show them savings acct. statements. Although it probably helps your cause if you can show them you're employed/making money.
http://www.visajourney.com/
K1 visa application was easier to complete than my taxes.
If you have a little reading comprehension, don't waste any money on a lawyer.
Your wife to be will need a police check $50 and the "Certificate of single status" $20, both of these were very painless to acquire, then you need them translated to the English $15.
Medical exam is also an easy process and another $100.
If you can get your Mom/Dad or a brother/sister to complete a co-sponsor form then you don't need to worry about showing income at the embassy interview. In lieu of income you can also show them savings acct. statements. Although it probably helps your cause if you can show them you're employed/making money.
http://www.visajourney.com/
Sublime- That was what I was hoping to hear, that it has actually been done recently, and is possible. That makes me feel a lot more confident about the situation. True that I am not currently working, but I do have a savings account, and retirement accounts. I will definitely go the co-sponsor route as well, in addition to going back to proper employment. I would imagine that this would be a more is better scenario. Very happy to get the positive feedback.
Just so nobody thinks I'm a deadbeat...After the sale of my home I felt that I was entitled to some time off, but will still have some money to get back on my feet, when I return to the U.S. for good. (I fully realize the responsibilities of raising a child, and will not be returning to support a family with no employment lined up, and just the clothes on my back.)
Just so nobody thinks I'm a deadbeat...After the sale of my home I felt that I was entitled to some time off, but will still have some money to get back on my feet, when I return to the U.S. for good. (I fully realize the responsibilities of raising a child, and will not be returning to support a family with no employment lined up, and just the clothes on my back.)
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Have you ever watched "90 Day Fiance" on the TLC channel? You can download both seasons off itunes, it's a great show. Most of the Americans importing foreign wives and husbands on that show were broke and I think they needed co-sponsors.
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