Adoption of Khmer kid by foreigner
Adoption of Khmer kid by foreigner
Hello
I was married to a Khmer and it went tits up. She already had a daughter from a previous relationship (dad was some deadbeat who never met the kid or gave any support). Anyway even after the marriage ended I remain close with my ex stepdaughter, I'm the closest she has got to a dad.
Is there any possible way I can adopt this girl? I remember reading before it was banned because of all of the noncery. In our case it would be really useful for loads of things. She would benefit from my company medical insurance etc. Not only that but the ease of traveling to me or staying with me (I'm no longer in Cambo).
I cannot tell you how much it would mean to us if I could officially become her dad. And it would be a big relief because of the various ways it allows me to take care of her more. My ex thinks it's a good idea too but I don't know where to start.
Any input? tia
I was married to a Khmer and it went tits up. She already had a daughter from a previous relationship (dad was some deadbeat who never met the kid or gave any support). Anyway even after the marriage ended I remain close with my ex stepdaughter, I'm the closest she has got to a dad.
Is there any possible way I can adopt this girl? I remember reading before it was banned because of all of the noncery. In our case it would be really useful for loads of things. She would benefit from my company medical insurance etc. Not only that but the ease of traveling to me or staying with me (I'm no longer in Cambo).
I cannot tell you how much it would mean to us if I could officially become her dad. And it would be a big relief because of the various ways it allows me to take care of her more. My ex thinks it's a good idea too but I don't know where to start.
Any input? tia
It would be possible but a huge legal process in a Western country. Presumably similar in Cambodia. Legal advice is best left for legal eagles. Perhaps someone knows a Cambodian family lawyer?
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You couldve, shouldve and wasted the opportunity to adopt her when you were still with the mother.
Wait till shes 18yo then no need for adopt.
Wait till shes 18yo then no need for adopt.
Intercountry adoption of Cambodian children was banned in 2009 and as far as I know that has not changed.
Even if it did change, many countries restrict adoptions from Cambodia. For example the US, England and Australia.
Even if it did change, many countries restrict adoptions from Cambodia. For example the US, England and Australia.
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Did you ever legally adopt her when u were married to her mom> Cause being married to her mom had nothing to do with ur status with her daughter.
if not, ur not her dad nor step dad and ur chances are zip, sorry
If u care, perhaps set something up with the mom so you can contribute to giving her a better life, but knowing ur giving a better life to ur ex as well.
if not, ur not her dad nor step dad and ur chances are zip, sorry
If u care, perhaps set something up with the mom so you can contribute to giving her a better life, but knowing ur giving a better life to ur ex as well.
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I'm trying to be deliberately vague here, but I think it's important to understand how laws work. A friend of mine had been here since UNTAC. He ended up staying on here and married one of his staff. They both felt they were a bit old to try for a kid (late 40s) and ended up adopting her nephew, he was very young and the parents knew he would get better opportunities. Anyway, even though himself and his wife and the kid were able to visit this particular territory in the EU many times, when it came to direct lineage this was an issue. His kid had no actual EU DNA and was blocked. After about £40,000 in legal fees he was able to gain EU citizenship for the child, but not from his original home country. So for the OP, I think you are facing major hurdles that even reasonably large amounts of cash won't surpass.
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It's easy to mix up the (continuous) support with the legal situation.
My family has been "interested" (to put it that way), to take the kids I take care of to .eu, for a better future, etc. Also, the kids would love to do come to the .eu. Though, no way for me to consider that relocation. Apart from the formal legal aspects, the kids would be extremely lonely in a far-away and cold country, not to say, having to adapt to a completely different culture.
Better spent some more money to give support in a local environment, with sufficient Western influence (ehhh, the positive things), than trying to arrange something formal which is not allowed.
In case you want to arrange the inheritance items, think about gradually moving your possessions to Cambodia, where you much easier can "transfer" ownership to her. Just take care, you take your time to do so. Spread this over many, many years and things move easy. It's all about long-term planning. And the long-term aspect gives you also more control what is happening.
Just realize, you can not bring kids in 1 generation up to Western standards/capabilities. It needs at least 2 generations and even then, it'll be difficult.
My family has been "interested" (to put it that way), to take the kids I take care of to .eu, for a better future, etc. Also, the kids would love to do come to the .eu. Though, no way for me to consider that relocation. Apart from the formal legal aspects, the kids would be extremely lonely in a far-away and cold country, not to say, having to adapt to a completely different culture.
Better spent some more money to give support in a local environment, with sufficient Western influence (ehhh, the positive things), than trying to arrange something formal which is not allowed.
In case you want to arrange the inheritance items, think about gradually moving your possessions to Cambodia, where you much easier can "transfer" ownership to her. Just take care, you take your time to do so. Spread this over many, many years and things move easy. It's all about long-term planning. And the long-term aspect gives you also more control what is happening.
Just realize, you can not bring kids in 1 generation up to Western standards/capabilities. It needs at least 2 generations and even then, it'll be difficult.
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Can you explain why they're not able to come up to the western standards and capabilities....Ps. I love anti-fascist, right on left wing racist like you.
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Not right- or left-wing racist, just realism with experience.Fred Edwards wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:00 pmCan you explain why they're not able to come up to the western standards and capabilities....Ps. I love anti-fascist, right on left wing racist like you.
These kids do come with "experience", where they are ingrained to listen to "Grandma" with her old-fashioned methods. I still struggle to get Grandma to approve letting Junior ride his bicycle. He is 12 now. Or junior being an artist (drawing) and Grandma forbidding him to make drawings nowadays, simply because she considers drawings "only for children".
These kids did get raised to absolutely not speak-up towards parents/grand-parents, just to accept whatever they are told to do. That is so much ingrained, you don't get that out of them, it did just form their character (with subsequently mental issues coming with that, when such an approach is not fitting their natural character).
And, yep, it is very frustrating to see, how junior gets abused with these things.
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Quote : "After about £40,000 in legal fees he was able to gain EU citizenship for the child.."
Adopt a stray dog, i reckon.
Adopt a stray dog, i reckon.
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Not to say, I just got a call from Junior, in heavy distress with Grandma, he no longer wants to do Khmer school. So, yeah, even at 12, Grandma starts losing her game, of course, also given Junior does have emergency alternatives .......
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That sounds rather backwards. My kid is very close to his grandparents here but they are from the capital so perhaps are a bit more modern than that? His grandfather went to RUFA so the idea that "drawing is for kids" never came up, he just doesn't care much for it himself anyway. Anytime we've visited Europe he gets on fine and adults are usually surprised how confident he is with them. I don't believe there's any huge insurmountable barrier there, but of course it depends on the individuals.v12 wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:42 pmNot right- or left-wing racist, just realism with experience.
These kids do come with "experience", where they are ingrained to listen to "Grandma" with her old-fashioned methods. I still struggle to get Grandma to approve letting Junior ride his bicycle. He is 12 now. Or junior being an artist (drawing) and Grandma forbidding him to make drawings nowadays, simply because she considers drawings "only for children".
These kids did get raised to absolutely not speak-up towards parents/grand-parents, just to accept whatever they are told to do. That is so much ingrained, you don't get that out of them, it did just form their character (with subsequently mental issues coming with that, when such an approach is not fitting their natural character).
And, yep, it is very frustrating to see, how junior gets abused with these things.
Romantic Cambodia is dead and gone. It's with McKinley in the grave.
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I know of a kid of a Vietnamese hooker ( and there's nothing wrong in surviving ) who has a degree from a university in the UK. Doesn't take a generation if yer desperate, motivated or just plain wanting to.v12 wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 10:28 amIt's easy to mix up the (continuous) support with the legal situation.
My family has been "interested" (to put it that way), to take the kids I take care of to .eu, for a better future, etc. Also, the kids would love to do come to the .eu. Though, no way for me to consider that relocation. Apart from the formal legal aspects, the kids would be extremely lonely in a far-away and cold country, not to say, having to adapt to a completely different culture.
Better spent some more money to give support in a local environment, with sufficient Western influence (ehhh, the positive things), than trying to arrange something formal which is not allowed.
In case you want to arrange the inheritance items, think about gradually moving your possessions to Cambodia, where you much easier can "transfer" ownership to her. Just take care, you take your time to do so. Spread this over many, many years and things move easy. It's all about long-term planning. And the long-term aspect gives you also more control what is happening.
Just realize, you can not bring kids in 1 generation up to Western standards/capabilities. It needs at least 2 generations and even then, it'll be difficult.
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