Ha. A blast from the past :Jacked Camry wrote:Anyway, I am hoping that the black population in the US take the NRA at their word and start arming themselves to the teeth while walking around open carrying. That will surely make everyone feel safer and prouder still to be 'Merican.Pol Pothead wrote:I would say SOME might have lived... or at the very least in the process have killed more German soldiers, leaving that many fewer to continue the war. When looking at history, it's easy to gloss over numbers of dead as a rounded 6 million or whatever. Historians really don't care whether the exact number is 6,000,005 or 5,999,995 in the overall context. I try to place myself in the position of a Polish Jewish farmer who was faced with the individual decision to take defensive action or take none, knowing full well the odds of success being next to nil. That farmer doesn't care abut 20 million dead or 6 million dead. He might care about the number 5...being his wife and 4 kids. Can he possibly delay the inevitable and give his family one small chance to get away while he stands next to his fellow villagers and takes a stand...a stand not remotely possible without firearms.jm wrote:[ I'd disagree with those who would argue the dead would be less dead or that gun control had anything to due with Hitter's rise or the Jews' destruction. I understand you are not arguing that but Carson and his supporters seem to be.
My question is, did that farmer want a gun in his hand when the Germans started to arrive? We both agreed that he most probably did. But the greater topic is about whether he should have the right to possess such a firearm...or more importantly, do other people who may or may not face the same persecution or threats of violence as this farmer get to make laws stopping him from owning a firearm because those privileged people don't fully understand the threat or give a rat's ass about his particular predicament. I think those questions are as valid in 1940 Poland, or for a black American protecting his family from violent KKK lynchers in 1947 Mississippi, or a man seeing the potential need to protect his family from violent criminals anywhere today.
By the way, for while at least, the Detroit police force was officially saying the response time for 911 (emergency calls) was averaging 55 minutes. Seems a few people who can't relate to such conditions are the ones bemoaning gun ownership by others.
"The (Black) Panthers responded to racial violence by patrolling black neighborhoods brandishing guns -- in an effort to police the police. The fear of black people with firearms sent shockwaves across white communities, and conservative lawmakers immediately responded with gun-control legislation.
Then Gov. Ronald Reagan, now lauded as the patron saint of modern conservatism, told reporters in California that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons." Reagan claimed that the Mulford Act, as it became known, "would work no hardship on the honest citizen."