http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/j ... lism-begunWho can make this happen? In the old left project it was the industrial working class. More than 200 years ago, the radical journalist John Thelwall warned the men who built the English factories that they had created a new and dangerous form of democracy: “Every large workshop and manufactory is a sort of political society, which no act of parliament can silence, and no magistrate disperse.”
Today the whole of society is a factory. We all participate in the creation and recreation of the brands, norms and institutions that surround us. At the same time the communication grids vital for everyday work and profit are buzzing with shared knowledge and discontent. Today it is the network – like the workshop 200 years ago – that they “cannot silence or disperse”.
True, states can shut down Facebook, Twitter, even the entire internet and mobile network in times of crisis, paralysing the economy in the process. And they can store and monitor every kilobyte of information we produce. But they cannot reimpose the hierarchical, propaganda-driven and ignorant society of 50 years ago, except – as in China, North Korea or Iran – by opting out of key parts of modern life. It would be, as sociologist Manuel Castells put it, like trying to de-electrify a country.
By creating millions of networked people, financially exploited but with the whole of human intelligence one thumb-swipe away, info-capitalism has created a new agent of change in history: the educated and connected human being.
The End of Capitalism - Paul Mason
The End of Capitalism - Paul Mason
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Capitalism won't end. It's basic tenets are too closely aligned with primal human drivers - getting ahead, security, prospering etc. What it will do is what it has been doing ever since it came into being - it will adapt to reflect new realities, most likely driven by technology.
It is its innate adaptability that makes it prosper; in that regard it is the exact opposite of every alternative. The more rigid the dogma, the shorter it survives.
It is its innate adaptability that makes it prosper; in that regard it is the exact opposite of every alternative. The more rigid the dogma, the shorter it survives.
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Cold fusion and nano tech will change the model. Limitless energy and home manufacturing will reinvent it. Sorta a global cottage industrial revolution.
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Where is the god of tits and wine?
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I realize you're probably summarizing a whole bunch of reading, but do you have a link or two to these ideas. I find this scenario of the new cottage industrial revolution very appealing.Felgerkarb wrote:Cold fusion and nano tech will change the model. Limitless energy and home manufacturing will reinvent it. Sorta a global cottage industrial revolution.
"We want our country to develop step by step. But that is such a long way off . . . as far away as the stars."
Jobless father in documentary Cambodia: Country of Scars.
Jobless father in documentary Cambodia: Country of Scars.
Won't be allowed to happen for an other thousands years, until our current civilisation is destroyed.
Capitalism is the exploitation of the many for the benefit of the few. Just like every other system devised so far. Unrestrained it is no better than any other way. Coupled with socialism, it has the potential of increasing the few and decreasing the many. I'd love to see a utopian Star Trek Federation-like society, but it requires humans to overcome the instinct to control others. I'm not optimistic.
Cold fusion would be a large step towards Karl Marx' free machine, which is where the article is directed. That would be that freedom of information and the ease information can be copied with having the same effect on capitalism as free energy. That freedom cuts out the control of supply that drives market price and which keeps capitalism afloat.
Remove the illusion of value based on availability. The free machine bringing down the cost of anything it touches in any way.
A good read. Thanks.
Remove the illusion of value based on availability. The free machine bringing down the cost of anything it touches in any way.
A good read. Thanks.
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Did any of you bother to read that entire wall of text? What a wordy way to say a whole lot of nothing. An entire book of that would be torture.
..and if you disagree with me, you are one billion times WORSE than HITLER!!!
Yes I read it.
I found it interesting. Which nothing didn't you understand.
I found it interesting. Which nothing didn't you understand.
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PenhMan wrote:I realize you're probably summarizing a whole bunch of reading, but do you have a link or two to these ideas. I find this scenario of the new cottage industrial revolution very appealing.Felgerkarb wrote:Cold fusion and nano tech will change the model. Limitless energy and home manufacturing will reinvent it. Sorta a global cottage industrial revolution.
No. Just summarizing and putting my opinion on where I see things going...e.g. 3d printers and carbon nano tube tech/graphine mixed with free power. Endless possibilities.
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We are on the cusp of the next tech revolution, alternative energy with storage, self drive electric cars,drones and robots able to perform many tasks and who knows what else? It's going to be a hell of a ride.
Forgot to mention Elon Musc and the space x rocket that re entered the atmosphere the right way up after doing its somersault and landing vertically, perfectly. Cheap satellites are about to take off and revolutionise communications. Capitalism has its advantages.
Forgot to mention Elon Musc and the space x rocket that re entered the atmosphere the right way up after doing its somersault and landing vertically, perfectly. Cheap satellites are about to take off and revolutionise communications. Capitalism has its advantages.
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That may well be true, but I don't see how that or anything else mentioned here have anything to do with The End of Capitalism (as stated in the OP). There may (or may not) be the imminent demise of Big Energy or fossil fuels and some megasized, remotely located manufacturing hubs, but whatever will replace such things will still be capitalistic endeavors. Still, people won't be 3D printing car tires in their living rooms....and some capitalist corporation will still make the 3D printers even if they did. Energy might get cheaper and cleaner in the future (hopefully), but FREE? Come on. Everything requries basic raw materials and those aren't free even if the actual energy produced was.Felgerkarb wrote:PenhMan wrote:I realize you're probably summarizing a whole bunch of reading, but do you have a link or two to these ideas. I find this scenario of the new cottage industrial revolution very appealing.Felgerkarb wrote:Cold fusion and nano tech will change the model. Limitless energy and home manufacturing will reinvent it. Sorta a global cottage industrial revolution.
No. Just summarizing and putting my opinion on where I see things going...e.g. 3d printers and carbon nano tube tech/graphine mixed with free power. Endless possibilities.
Getting back to the article, a few minor outliers, like Wikipedia, do not herald in the end of capitalism...just the end of the already troubled, printed encyclopedia industry and print advertising. The "sharing economy" will not bring about the end of capitalism...only major disruption in, for example, the taxi and the hotel industries. Uber drivers and people with extra bedrooms for rent (air bnb) are capitalists in the purest form. Some people might be willing to create and give out free computer software for the common good, but not continually free hamburgers.
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I never said it would end, it will just redefine itself. Sure power will never be totally free, but the costs will drop very low. Tires? We will be flying around in EMDrive, fusion powered hover cars.
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Will fusion powered nano robots of the future plant rice?
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