Really Alan, you are way further gone than i thought. Jeez its not like that it is more or less every single day that atrocities are happened/being reported on is it? Oh yeah it is. And it us not something to be excited about in any way. In fact I get so upset each time the latest atrocity is committed by militant extremists (these fuckers don't even deserve to be associated with any religion and that is saying something from someone whose opinion of religion is as low as mine) that I have to come on here and air my grievances wrong or right with complete and utter morons like you who are bordering on the edge of treachery.alanclarke72 wrote:Lucky Lucan wrote:I'm glad this litany of disasters is keeping Jock Jock and Fred Edwards et al very happy and smug with themselves. Every time there is a new attack it gives them an opportunity to gloat and feel satisfied about their simplistic "kill them all" non-solutions.
This. Did you notice how Fred was almost gagging with joy at the prospect that the Spalding killings might be shown to be Muslim related eventually: "only time will tell."
It was a middle class white man killing his wife and teenage daughter and then killing himself.
No doubt he once had a curry in a Bangladeshi owned restaurant though: fucking immigrants!
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You pretty much did say that Canada was perfect and that everyone should copy them, to be fair. Arrogant much?Jacked Camry wrote:Having been shown to have been using disingenuous at best sources and rhetoric, you now clutch at a single poll from 2013 as your evidence? Pathetic.Jock Jock wrote:To be honest I totally agree with you, Canada is the most liberal, peaceful and friendly country I have been to, but to say that the Canadian way of dealing with migrants is perfect and there isn't some degree of annoyance at the spread of Islam is short-sighted at best.Jacked Camry wrote:I didn't even know what you were talking about, so I googled it.Jock Jock wrote:So Canadians didn't vote overwhelmingly against the building of further Mosques in Quebec then, I must have dreamt it.Jacked Camry wrote:I've noticed that you claim to be resident in Toronto, where I am living, but appear to be from the UK. I didn't pay much attention to your ravings prior to this as I have no ties to the UK, but now that you're talking about my home turf...I can see why everyone thinks you're a nutter. The Canada that you describe bears no resemblance to the one I'm living in. You should get out a bit, would do you some good.Jock Jock wrote:Canada does NOT bend over backwards for Muslims, indeed people here in Canada are becoming more and more sick of Islamification, and the funny part is, they haven't barely had any yet.Jacked Camry wrote:I see. So if there is not complete unanimity, then it's meaningless? The majority of Canadians voted for this government and that is their policy. It's received widespread support and far more people have volunteered to open their homes to Muslim refuges than have joined minor protests in Quebec. So what's your point?Jock Jock wrote:Just saying, it's not as cut and dried in Canada as you think. Obviously there are plenty of people in Quebec who would prefer not to have more integration and more Mosques. Just saying.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Do you want Shariah law in Vancouver? In the UK we have loads of pockets of Shariah law, 96-odd acting Shariah councils I believe.
Basically, despite Canada's brave acceptance of 20,000 (the same number of migrants who enter the UK every 2 weeks) Muslim refuges (families only) , Canada really has no idea yet what it is getting itself into, yet already there are large groups who are refusing to allow Islam to grow in their country. How on earth do you think that your ideas of acceptance are going to work when your own country 1) Has no real idea what it is dealing with and 2) 's population has already had enough?
There is a simple answer, a global ban on ALL public practices of religion. The human race is rapidly growing out of religion anyway, what's the harm in speeding the process on a bit.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ ... -1.3616995
HOLY SHIT! "Of the 481 valid ballots cast, 290 people voted No in the referendum (60.5 per cent). Voter turnout rate was 43 per cent." Well, your point is proven. 290 people in Ahuntsic-Cartierville borough in Quebec voted not to let the local Muslims use the community centre as a place of worship versus the 191 people who voted for the measure. And of course 638 people couldn't be arsed to vote they cared so much about the Muslim menace. Oh, by the way, it appears the big issue was lack of parking, rather than fear of Sharia Law.
Aren't you embarrassed to claim what you just did? 290 people? Parking? Ahuntsic-Cartierville? And it wasn't to build a mosque, it was to use the community centre as a mosque. And it wasn't that you couldn't build any further mosques in Quebec, it was in one small township on the North Island of Montreal. You're a joke.
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/land-of-intolerance/
'...found that attitudes toward Islam have deteriorated markedly across the country over the past four years.'
I have not said Canada is perfect, nor have I said that some people there wouldn't get annoyed at Muslims on occasion. This is further sophistry on your part. Fact is that we welcome Syrian migrants and would welcome more, that our Muslim population is well integrated on the whole, and that there have been minimal incidents of both anti-Islamic behaviour and Islamic fanaticism or terrorism. There's something like 35 million people here, you'll get the occasional idiot. You're trying to paint a ridiculous picture that has no basis in fact of a country that does not exist, at least not where Canada is currently located. Get over it. Not everyone is an alarmist and has bought into the fear that the Right has been trying to inculcate. Pity that you have, you should be a bit braver - the odds of you getting affected by Islamic terrorism are less than being hit by lightning. Do you wander around afraid of the sky?
Fact, a very recent vote of Canadian citizens voted convincingly to reject plans for a new mosque. Regardless of the small size of the vote, that is a fact, Maybe you should have a word with the Quebeca? Oh but wait half of them want nothing to do with the rest of Canada either, hardly this Utopia you suggest is it?
Incidentally, I checked. Actually you are far , far , more likely to be killed in a terrorism related incident than by being struck by lightning.
But it is not about whether anyone is scared or not, is it? It is about having to see wanton destruction of human life played out on the news week after week. It's great to be all liberal and say I'm not scared and I won't let the terrorists alter my self-ingratiating left-wing opinion but whoever this week's dead people are, are still dead people who had families, kids, futures and dreams. And often there are a lot of them, just the last two weeks' attacks in Paris and Baghdad alone have claimed the lives of hundreds and hundreds of innocent people.
But week after week this goes on, week after week, month after month, year after year, and all the left does is fling the word racist or bigot in every direction but the right one.
Re Canada,
Yes she is great, very great, but nowhere is perfect hey.
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and lots of shoddy engineering worksJock Jock wrote: Re Canada,
Yes she is great, very great, but nowhere is perfect hey.
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Okay, prove it. Where did I say this?Jock Jock wrote:You pretty much did say that Canada was perfect and that everyone should copy them, to be fair. Arrogant much?
More sophistry - I never claimed Canada was Utopia, and your pathetic attempt to paint Canada as a nation verging on Islamophobia was absurd and you should be embarrassed for even attempting it. BTW, it's "Quebecois" for your future reference.Jock Jock wrote:Fact, a very recent vote of Canadian citizens voted convincingly to reject plans for a new mosque. Regardless of the small size of the vote, that is a fact, Maybe you should have a word with the Quebeca? Oh but wait half of them want nothing to do with the rest of Canada either, hardly this Utopia you suggest is it?
Here's a reasonable article that discusses how people become fraidy-cats like you. Read it and man up.Jock Jock wrote:Incidentally, I checked. Actually you are far , far , more likely to be killed in a terrorism related incident than by being struck by lightning.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... terrorist/
Yes, it IS about whether you're scared or not, that's the entire point of it. And yes, as AlanClarke has noted, you've swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Poor Jock Jock, such a multi-cultural, world-traveling, multiple-language-speaking pussy you are. It would be terrible to be constantly anxious about shit such that it turns you into a raving idiot and compromises your ability to make coherent arguments.Jock Jock wrote:But it is not about whether anyone is scared or not, is it? It is about having to see wanton destruction of human life played out on the news week after week. It's great to be all liberal and say I'm not scared and I won't let the terrorists alter my self-ingratiating left-wing opinion but whoever this week's dead people are, are still dead people who had families, kids, futures and dreams. And often there are a lot of them, just the last two weeks' attacks in Paris and Baghdad alone have claimed the lives of hundreds and hundreds of innocent people.
But week after week this goes on, week after week, month after month, year after year, and all the left does is fling the word racist or bigot in every direction but the right one.
Re Canada,
Yes she is great, very great, but nowhere is perfect hey.
Yeah, course mate, that's why I go and live in places like Saudi Arabia, you should step out of your comfort zone some time you might learn something , and no I don't mean those patronising trips to Cuba where you take your own cups and feel great about yourself for giving pencils to children.
Not about the fear, about all the dead people. I grew up with terrorism like the Arndale Centre bombing just down the street from me, I proper couldn't give a fuck, you go , you go. What I am sick of is seeing innocent human beings exploded, run down or hacked to pieces on a regular basis. Sorry if that offends your imbecilic simplistic notions and burning desire to shout racist at someone for no reason.
Incidentally regarding your so magnanimous offer that you would take a whole other 20,000 refugees (cherry picked of course), So , 40,000 in total, whoopee shit. The UK is currently taking in 30,000 migrants a month, and it has been every single month for the last two years. Now you are worldly enough to know that Canada is quite a big country right, I've been to bigger but that's another story. And I am guessing you are somewhat aware of the size of the UK right?
Ah well at least Canada and Canadians can feel better about their wonderful selves hey. Leave the proper housing of migrants, economic, refugees or otherwise to Europe and the Middle East whilst Canada spouts out advice about how simple and easy things are. Great that.
Not about the fear, about all the dead people. I grew up with terrorism like the Arndale Centre bombing just down the street from me, I proper couldn't give a fuck, you go , you go. What I am sick of is seeing innocent human beings exploded, run down or hacked to pieces on a regular basis. Sorry if that offends your imbecilic simplistic notions and burning desire to shout racist at someone for no reason.
Incidentally regarding your so magnanimous offer that you would take a whole other 20,000 refugees (cherry picked of course), So , 40,000 in total, whoopee shit. The UK is currently taking in 30,000 migrants a month, and it has been every single month for the last two years. Now you are worldly enough to know that Canada is quite a big country right, I've been to bigger but that's another story. And I am guessing you are somewhat aware of the size of the UK right?
Ah well at least Canada and Canadians can feel better about their wonderful selves hey. Leave the proper housing of migrants, economic, refugees or otherwise to Europe and the Middle East whilst Canada spouts out advice about how simple and easy things are. Great that.
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I see you've again failed to provide evidence of your previous claims - you state that I claimed Canada to be "perfect" and a "Utopia". I asked, reasonably, for you to demonstrate where I have ever said this. Well?Jock Jock wrote:Yeah, course mate, that's why I go and live in places like Saudi Arabia, you should step out of your comfort zone some time you might learn something , and no I don't mean those patronising trips to Cuba where you take your own cups and feel great about yourself for giving pencils to children.
Not about the fear, about all the dead people. I grew up with terrorism like the Arndale Centre bombing just down the street from me, I proper couldn't give a fuck, you go , you go. What I am sick of is seeing innocent human beings exploded, run down or hacked to pieces on a regular basis. Sorry if that offends your imbecilic simplistic notions and burning desire to shout racist at someone for no reason.
Incidentally regarding your so magnanimous offer that you would take a whole other 20,000 refugees (cherry picked of course), So , 40,000 in total, whoopee shit. The UK is currently taking in 30,000 migrants a month, and it has been every single month for the last two years. Now you are worldly enough to know that Canada is quite a big country right, I've been to bigger but that's another story. And I am guessing you are somewhat aware of the size of the UK right?
Ah well at least Canada and Canadians can feel better about their wonderful selves hey. Leave the proper housing of migrants, economic, refugees or otherwise to Europe and the Middle East whilst Canada spouts out advice about how simple and easy things are. Great that.
As to your "hatred" of people being violently killed, I take it that you're of the opinion that there shouldn't be wars in the Middle East and that nobody should be "retaliating" against the terrorism? That's at least a step in the right direction.
As to the UK, they have the right to make their own choices and I, as noted earlier, have no ties to the place although I've been there a number of times and have many friends from there. So you may carry on your rants in that thread without interference from myself. But I'll take care of refuting the shite you spout about Canada, eh?
Anyway, time for you to lock the doors and windows from the various boogeymen who haunt your imagination. Good luck on making it through another day!
Oh yeah the boogeymen, you know they are not real right? Nobody has ever been killed by a boogeyman. Just to make sure, Walking Dead, those aren't real either, reanimation as far as we know is actually impossible.
However tens of thousands of people are dying every year from militant terrorism, that is fact, not fiction. Your answer 'just be nice to Muslims like Canada does'. Well believe it or not, most of us are. I've personally been out sea fishing in the Gulf of Arabia , visited a camel and goat farm and sat on a winchester in the desert as the sun goes down dipping dates into camel's milk. Lost count of how many kabsa's I've been treated to my my Arabic muslim friends and how many epic games of football I have had with my Morrocan mates in Spain , many of whom I worked with and one of who I hired as a chef. Don't point your daft arse 'you're a racist fingers at me', as you are talking completely out of your arse.
I think I have voiced my opinion many times about Blair's war, I hope he is brought to justice soon. But it is what it is, we are where we are and maybe it is about time we put common sense before political correctness before the next atrocity is committed.
However tens of thousands of people are dying every year from militant terrorism, that is fact, not fiction. Your answer 'just be nice to Muslims like Canada does'. Well believe it or not, most of us are. I've personally been out sea fishing in the Gulf of Arabia , visited a camel and goat farm and sat on a winchester in the desert as the sun goes down dipping dates into camel's milk. Lost count of how many kabsa's I've been treated to my my Arabic muslim friends and how many epic games of football I have had with my Morrocan mates in Spain , many of whom I worked with and one of who I hired as a chef. Don't point your daft arse 'you're a racist fingers at me', as you are talking completely out of your arse.
I think I have voiced my opinion many times about Blair's war, I hope he is brought to justice soon. But it is what it is, we are where we are and maybe it is about time we put common sense before political correctness before the next atrocity is committed.
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I see your MO, it's to never respond to direct questions and avoid ever addressing points that are made that directly call you out for your exaggerations, misquotes and other bullshit. You may carry on without further response from me, I think I've played my small part in exposing your nonsense.Jock Jock wrote:Oh yeah the boogeymen, you know they are not real right? Nobody has ever been killed by a boogeyman. Just to make sure, Walking Dead, those aren't real either, reanimation as far as we know is actually impossible.
However tens of thousands of people are dying every year from militant terrorism, that is fact, not fiction. Your answer 'just be nice to Muslims like Canada does'. Well believe it or not, most of us are. I've personally been out sea fishing in the Gulf of Arabia , visited a camel and goat farm and sat on a winchester in the desert as the sun goes down dipping dates into camel's milk. Lost count of how many kabsa's I've been treated to my my Arabic muslim friends and how many epic games of football I have had with my Morrocan mates in Spain , many of whom I worked with and one of who I hired as a chef. Don't point your daft arse 'you're a racist fingers at me', as you are talking completely out of your arse.
I think I have voiced my opinion many times about Blair's war, I hope he is brought to justice soon. But it is what it is, we are where we are and maybe it is about time we put common sense before political correctness before the next atrocity is committed.
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Jock Jock, nobody has mentioned racism for a while, why do you keep going on about it? We have figured that some of your best friends are Muslims already.Don't point your daft arse 'you're a racist fingers at me', as you are talking completely out of your arse.
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Lucky Lucan wrote:Jock Jock, nobody has mentioned racism for a while, why do you keep going on about it? We have figured that some of your best friends are Muslims already.Don't point your daft arse 'you're a racist fingers at me', as you are talking completely out of your arse.
No problem. Incidentally a new Mosque has just opened up in Preston you might be interested in. Entirely funded by the Saudis. And it is a very impressive building indeed. Luckily for the Sauds they didn't chose to build one in Quebec hey, or it would just get turned down like the last one.Jacked Camry wrote:I see your MO, it's to never respond to direct questions and avoid ever addressing points that are made that directly call you out for your exaggerations, misquotes and other bullshit. You may carry on without further response from me, I think I've played my small part in exposing your nonsense.Jock Jock wrote:Oh yeah the boogeymen, you know they are not real right? Nobody has ever been killed by a boogeyman. Just to make sure, Walking Dead, those aren't real either, reanimation as far as we know is actually impossible.
However tens of thousands of people are dying every year from militant terrorism, that is fact, not fiction. Your answer 'just be nice to Muslims like Canada does'. Well believe it or not, most of us are. I've personally been out sea fishing in the Gulf of Arabia , visited a camel and goat farm and sat on a winchester in the desert as the sun goes down dipping dates into camel's milk. Lost count of how many kabsa's I've been treated to my my Arabic muslim friends and how many epic games of football I have had with my Morrocan mates in Spain , many of whom I worked with and one of who I hired as a chef. Don't point your daft arse 'you're a racist fingers at me', as you are talking completely out of your arse.
I think I have voiced my opinion many times about Blair's war, I hope he is brought to justice soon. But it is what it is, we are where we are and maybe it is about time we put common sense before political correctness before the next atrocity is committed.
http://www.arabnews.com/node/956651/saudi-arabia
Quite a good paper the Arab News, strangely it's green, but I guess that is the national colour.
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There would have, if they had tried to set it up in the local community center.Jock Jock wrote: Luckily for the Sauds they didn't chose to build one in Quebec hey, or it would just get turned down like the last one.
This is a great photo from the recent opening of a Mosque in Buckingham Green:
However, without any context it is meaningless. For example, they could have been laughing and joking for hours and then the photographer farted or something.
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