Jock Jock wrote:Hell yeah! Y'all got Trumpton, you don't gunna get no bedder than that, don't need nothing else round those parts.Nirvana wrote: Screw the British Empire, screw US empire efforts, screw the Commonwealth whateverthefuck Club.
Why isn't the United States a member of the Commonwealth of Nations?
Bless.Nirvana wrote:The *wooshing* sound every time this discussion arises is how we as Americans just don't think about you (Brits) or our shared history. And smug 7th grade lectures about Abraham Lincoln, cringe-worthy washed up, has-been nostalgia for being a colonial power? You're no different than arrogant, nationalist Americans you love to hate so much.
Given the quibbling over why Brit involvement with *this* or *that* war wasn't that bad and the backward-ass pride for colonial past, I'm convinced the Brits are just fine with harmful international policy if they're the ones doing it. Had the British Empire reached it's peak in the information/social media age we wouldn't be as far removed from the destructive force you've been in the world. Instead you're lingering around like a stale fart chastising the US for a trend you started and things you'd be doing (and sometimes do) if your power hadn't waned long ago.
Screw the British Empire, screw US empire efforts, screw the Commonwealth whateverthefuck Club.
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And screw the fact that The U.S. Constitution does not guarantee equal rights for women.Nirvana wrote:
Screw the British Empire, screw US empire efforts, screw the Commonwealth whateverthefuck Club.
That must burn!
I blame the British actually, without US independence there wouldn't have been a US involvement in Indochina.jm wrote:Blame the French then. If they had stood back and let the Thais and Vietnamese carve up Cambodia none if this need happen. Better yet, blame the British for letting the French take Indochina.Jamie_Lambo wrote:lolHot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:The rise of communism in this part of the world was a bit different than elsewhere in that is started with the disillusioned children of the elite. Don't forget that most of them were on scholarships in France, drinking coffee in cafes when they came under the influence of left-wing ideologies. Bit hard to pin that on the Americans.Visser wrote: The rise of the Khmer Rouge was a direct result of US actions in the region, pretty hard to not blame this on the US.
the americans didnt help create the Khmer Rouge, and their ideology, no, youre right,
but if you think the results of America bombing Cambodia had little effect in the rise of the Khmer Rouge you need to re think your argument
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Can we not agree that it was Sihanouk who is ultimately responsible for the swell in ranks of the KR? He threw a right tizzy fit when the US deposed him through Lon Nol, and he called for every patriotic Cambodian to join the resistance.Jamie_Lambo wrote:i wasnt blaming anyone? i was saying the American Bombing helped greatly in the rise of the Khmer rougejm wrote:Blame the French then. If they had stood back and let the Thais and Vietnamese carve up Cambodia none if this need happen. Better yet, blame the British for letting the French take Indochina.Jamie_Lambo wrote:lolHot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:The rise of communism in this part of the world was a bit different than elsewhere in that is started with the disillusioned children of the elite. Don't forget that most of them were on scholarships in France, drinking coffee in cafes when they came under the influence of left-wing ideologies. Bit hard to pin that on the Americans.Visser wrote: The rise of the Khmer Rouge was a direct result of US actions in the region, pretty hard to not blame this on the US.
the americans didnt help create the Khmer Rouge, and their ideology, no, youre right,
but if you think the results of America bombing Cambodia had little effect in the rise of the Khmer Rouge you need to re think your argument
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Give it another 25 years and the US will be the new UK,Nirvana wrote:The *wooshing* sound every time this discussion arises is how we as Americans just don't think about you (Brits) or our shared history. And smug 7th grade lectures about Abraham Lincoln, cringe-worthy washed up, has-been nostalgia for being a colonial power? You're no different than arrogant, nationalist Americans you love to hate so much.
Given the quibbling over why Brit involvement with *this* or *that* war wasn't that bad and the backward-ass pride for colonial past, I'm convinced the Brits are just fine with harmful international policy if they're the ones doing it. Had the British Empire reached it's peak in the information/social media age we wouldn't be as far removed from the destructive force you've been in the world. Instead you're lingering around like a stale fart chastising the US for a trend you started and things you'd be doing (and sometimes do) if your power hadn't waned long ago.
Screw the British Empire, screw US empire efforts, screw the Commonwealth whateverthefuck Club.
None but ourselves can free our mind.
How bout we just acknowledge there was a complex web of contributing factors and actors involved, I think we all agree on what those were, I don't think trying to simplify that complexity by saying x was "chiefly" responsible is a useful exercise. Yes of course "it never would have happened" had Sihanouk not been Sihanouk, had the US never conducted its war in Vietnam, had the French not offered scholarships to Cambodian Marxists...Abou-Gor wrote:Can we not agree that it was Sihanouk who is ultimately responsible for the swell in ranks of the KR? He threw a right tizzy fit when the US deposed him through Lon Nol, and he called for every patriotic Cambodian to join the resistance.Jamie_Lambo wrote:i wasnt blaming anyone? i was saying the American Bombing helped greatly in the rise of the Khmer rougejm wrote:Blame the French then. If they had stood back and let the Thais and Vietnamese carve up Cambodia none if this need happen. Better yet, blame the British for letting the French take Indochina.Jamie_Lambo wrote:lolHot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:The rise of communism in this part of the world was a bit different than elsewhere in that is started with the disillusioned children of the elite. Don't forget that most of them were on scholarships in France, drinking coffee in cafes when they came under the influence of left-wing ideologies. Bit hard to pin that on the Americans.Visser wrote: The rise of the Khmer Rouge was a direct result of US actions in the region, pretty hard to not blame this on the US.
the americans didnt help create the Khmer Rouge, and their ideology, no, youre right,
but if you think the results of America bombing Cambodia had little effect in the rise of the Khmer Rouge you need to re think your argument
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Don't blame me I voted for Sanders
Why they hate us (II): How many Muslims has the U.S. killed in the past 30 years?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2009/11/30/why ... -30-years/“If the United States wants to improve its image in the Islamic world,” he said, “it should stop killing Muslims.”
Now I don’t think the issue is quite that simple, but the comment got me thinking: How many Muslims has the United States killed in the past thirty years, and how many Americans have been killed by Muslims? Coming up with a precise answer to this question is probably impossible, but it is also not necessary, because the rough numbers are so clearly lopsided.
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I agree but then the "google researchers" wouldn't be able to cherry pick "stuff on the internet" to justify their prejudices and bias.jm wrote: How bout we just acknowledge there was a complex web of contributing factors and actors involved..
My previous post was indeed from Google. I was asking myself the question, Who has killed more innocents, the US or the UK? I found the above link in that Google quest. I suspect seeing as the population has exploded since when the dollar took the place of the pound, it would be America.Hot_Pink_Urinal_Mint wrote:I agree but then the "google researchers" wouldn't be able to cherry pick "stuff on the internet" to justify their prejudices and bias.jm wrote: How bout we just acknowledge there was a complex web of contributing factors and actors involved..
There's just no keeping a good Cristian democrat down.
Oh, as far as US citizens to Muslims, its at least 1 US to 300 Muslims
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