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Right. Maybe the chemicals are only dangerous when inhaled? Maybe they do just not have hazmat suits after years of being bombed and besieged?
Maybe Turkey has confirmed that autopsies show that chemical weapons were used?
Maybe Turkey has confirmed that autopsies show that chemical weapons were used?
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I'd also like to know how that Kim Jong-Nam geezer was killed with VX nerve agent - the most deadly thing known to man, where evidently one microscopic spec can kill you...and yet the girly bar looking ''assassins'' and everyone surrounding the crime scene walks away perfectly fine.AE86 wrote:As of now, I'm not even convinced that chemical weapons were involved. The video featured on the NY Times shows men without hazmat suits, masks or even gloves washing down a supposed victim...those men would be dead in 2 minutes. It's extremely sloppy journalism at best, featuring high shock value GIFs and pretty much nothing else. In this day an age everyone has a smartphone...you're telling me those are the only pictures and videos anyone has got?
Then considering that the story regarding Susan Rice was breaking about illegally spying on Trump, and then all of a sudden this happens...
Sorry, I don't buy it, way too many red flags going up...
Honestly it's enough to turn me into a nutty conspiracy theorist i swear.
Is there now like fake news and like official fake news...like?
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yes you obviously did miss the point, i never threw up a "chemicals vs bullets" argument...my point was very clearDetroitMuscle wrote:Jamie_Lambo wrote:your missing the point, as a civilian minding my own business id rather not die at all, whether it be chemicals or rockets or drones or bullets or someone slowly chopping my head off with a inadequate knifeDetroitMuscle wrote:That is simply not true Jamie. For a few reasons ,we ban chemical warfare. 1- It is a horrific way to die. Sure, people die in war from explosions and bullets. But would you rather choke to death on Sarin gas or be shot in the chest a few times and die fairly quickly. Death sucks but no, not all deaths are the same.Jamie_Lambo wrote:does it make a difference? death is death, killing civilians is the same whether its a bullet to the head or chemicals, theres no humane way of killing the innocentDetroitMuscle wrote: 2.5- Does ISIS use chemicals as a weapon?
This is the big one- Chemical warefare actually destroys our Earth. There are still places deemed unsafe in Europe from all the chlorine and chemicals used during WWI.
I am missing the point? I am not the only one here who took what you said to mean " Does it matter how they die, chemicals vs bullets" to which I responded. I didn't miss any point. Perhaps you didn't type out what you actually wanted to say very clearly. Anyways, doesn't matter much, just a discussion. I don't think most sane humans want civillians to die, especially women and children.
theres no humane way of killing the innocent
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Trump is quickly becoming the worst president ever. The only reason most people voted for him was to avoid a war with Syria and Russia. Now the Zionists are running the show and Bannon is being treated like the ugly girl at the dance. It is so obviously a false flag and there is not even compelling evidence that shows that sarin was used.
@Hanno, the tin foil hat non-argument doesn't negate any of my points. It's like how American liberals paint everyone racist or sexist to ignore the points brought up on real societal issues. It's the meme generation I call it, where everyone tries to explain the world in one picture.
Sarin is deadly through skin exposure, not just inhalation. Hazmat suits may be in short supply, but gloves? In a hospital? Maybe the average guy on the street doesn't understand nerve gas and it's effects, but a medical worker of a country being bombed by nerve gas certainly would. Bare hands.
And again, why not more video? Why not more pictures? Why not more evidence? You're telling me the NY Times, the media giant, can not post anything more than a few GIFs and pics with no discernable landmarks? It's like a bloody facebook post from a duck faced instagram girl. If that's the best mainstream media can do, they're either lazy or dishonest.
And assuming it is nerve gas that was used, why are people blaming Assad when the "moderate" rebels were responsible for past nerve gas attacks?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... sads-regi/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria ... 9Z20130505
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/06/world ... sarin.html
There's a lot more questions I have, but unless those get answered very quickly, I can only be led to believe the "evidence" still has not been produced and santised yet.
This is from the Orlando shooting in 2016. Start at 0:42 and watch these guys carrying their friend who was supposedly shot in the leg, and then set him down like it was a shoot for a movie.
Sarin is deadly through skin exposure, not just inhalation. Hazmat suits may be in short supply, but gloves? In a hospital? Maybe the average guy on the street doesn't understand nerve gas and it's effects, but a medical worker of a country being bombed by nerve gas certainly would. Bare hands.
And again, why not more video? Why not more pictures? Why not more evidence? You're telling me the NY Times, the media giant, can not post anything more than a few GIFs and pics with no discernable landmarks? It's like a bloody facebook post from a duck faced instagram girl. If that's the best mainstream media can do, they're either lazy or dishonest.
And assuming it is nerve gas that was used, why are people blaming Assad when the "moderate" rebels were responsible for past nerve gas attacks?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... sads-regi/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria ... 9Z20130505
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/06/world ... sarin.html
There's a lot more questions I have, but unless those get answered very quickly, I can only be led to believe the "evidence" still has not been produced and santised yet.
I know what you mean. I want to believe what I am told and think that media is telling me the truth, but when videos like this happen, you can't help but wonder.spitthedog wrote: Honestly it's enough to turn me into a nutty conspiracy theorist i swear.
Is there now like fake news and like official fake news...like?
This is from the Orlando shooting in 2016. Start at 0:42 and watch these guys carrying their friend who was supposedly shot in the leg, and then set him down like it was a shoot for a movie.
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hahaAE86 wrote: This is from the Orlando shooting in 2016. Start at 0:42 and watch these guys carrying their friend who was supposedly shot in the leg, and then set him down like it was a shoot for a movie.
going to message some friends who are usually up to date with the conspiracies to see if theyve found anything yet
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You literally said "death is death, killing civilians is the same whether its a bullet to the head or chemicals".Jamie_Lambo wrote:yes you obviously did miss the point, i never threw up a "chemicals vs bullets" argument...my point was very clearDetroitMuscle wrote:Jamie_Lambo wrote:your missing the point, as a civilian minding my own business id rather not die at all, whether it be chemicals or rockets or drones or bullets or someone slowly chopping my head off with a inadequate knifeDetroitMuscle wrote:That is simply not true Jamie. For a few reasons ,we ban chemical warfare. 1- It is a horrific way to die. Sure, people die in war from explosions and bullets. But would you rather choke to death on Sarin gas or be shot in the chest a few times and die fairly quickly. Death sucks but no, not all deaths are the same.Jamie_Lambo wrote:does it make a difference? death is death, killing civilians is the same whether its a bullet to the head or chemicals, theres no humane way of killing the innocentDetroitMuscle wrote: 2.5- Does ISIS use chemicals as a weapon?
This is the big one- Chemical warefare actually destroys our Earth. There are still places deemed unsafe in Europe from all the chlorine and chemicals used during WWI.
I am missing the point? I am not the only one here who took what you said to mean " Does it matter how they die, chemicals vs bullets" to which I responded. I didn't miss any point. Perhaps you didn't type out what you actually wanted to say very clearly. Anyways, doesn't matter much, just a discussion. I don't think most sane humans want civillians to die, especially women and children.theres no humane way of killing the innocent
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yeah, exactly, you said "Does ISIS use chemicals as a weapon?" making it sound like oh ISIS dont use chemicals so its alright, or its not as bad because they just shoot them or chop off their heads all quick and painless like,DetroitMuscle wrote:You literally said "death is death, killing civilians is the same whether its a bullet to the head or chemicals".Jamie_Lambo wrote:yes you obviously did miss the point, i never threw up a "chemicals vs bullets" argument...my point was very clearDetroitMuscle wrote:Jamie_Lambo wrote:your missing the point, as a civilian minding my own business id rather not die at all, whether it be chemicals or rockets or drones or bullets or someone slowly chopping my head off with a inadequate knifeDetroitMuscle wrote:That is simply not true Jamie. For a few reasons ,we ban chemical warfare. 1- It is a horrific way to die. Sure, people die in war from explosions and bullets. But would you rather choke to death on Sarin gas or be shot in the chest a few times and die fairly quickly. Death sucks but no, not all deaths are the same.Jamie_Lambo wrote:does it make a difference? death is death, killing civilians is the same whether its a bullet to the head or chemicals, theres no humane way of killing the innocentDetroitMuscle wrote: 2.5- Does ISIS use chemicals as a weapon?
This is the big one- Chemical warefare actually destroys our Earth. There are still places deemed unsafe in Europe from all the chlorine and chemicals used during WWI.
I am missing the point? I am not the only one here who took what you said to mean " Does it matter how they die, chemicals vs bullets" to which I responded. I didn't miss any point. Perhaps you didn't type out what you actually wanted to say very clearly. Anyways, doesn't matter much, just a discussion. I don't think most sane humans want civillians to die, especially women and children.theres no humane way of killing the innocent
no civilians should be killed, period, no matter which way, shape or form, thats the point i was making,
death is death,
if some bloke is pissed off with his wife,
comes home from work and slips a deadly poison in her cup of tea and kills her,
or if he comes home with a gun and puts a bullet straight in her head,
do you think he will be seen any less of a murderer if he used the gun instead of the poison? because at least she didnt suffer...
no, thats the point...
not that hard to understand mate
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AE86 wrote:As of now, I'm not even convinced that chemical weapons were involved. The video featured on the NY Times shows men without hazmat suits, masks or even gloves washing down a supposed victim...those men would be dead in 2 minutes. It's extremely sloppy journalism at best, featuring high shock value GIFs and pretty much nothing else. In this day an age everyone has a smartphone...you're telling me those are the only pictures and videos anyone has got?
Then considering that the story regarding Susan Rice was breaking about illegally spying on Trump, and then all of a sudden this happens...
Sorry, I don't buy it, way too many red flags going up...
Oh for the love of God. Another god poster gone loopy after years in South East Asia. What is it about being in this part of the world that makes people so prone to nonsense conspiracy theories?
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Good move & perfect timing, covers all bases.
Iran, South China seas, North Korean missile testing & the innuendo of Russian puppetry on the home front.
The dangerous part is if Russia cuts flight path communications, not only would that be extremely stupid but would create the perfect platform for conflict!
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... a-46648923
The world police is supposed to be that useless organization called the United Nations where all the players are being continuously trumped by Russia & China!
Iran, South China seas, North Korean missile testing & the innuendo of Russian puppetry on the home front.
The dangerous part is if Russia cuts flight path communications, not only would that be extremely stupid but would create the perfect platform for conflict!
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... a-46648923
The world police is supposed to be that useless organization called the United Nations where all the players are being continuously trumped by Russia & China!
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tbh i was far more of a conspiracy theorist when i lived back in England and was bombarded with (false) news and media every dayThis Charming Man wrote:AE86 wrote:As of now, I'm not even convinced that chemical weapons were involved. The video featured on the NY Times shows men without hazmat suits, masks or even gloves washing down a supposed victim...those men would be dead in 2 minutes. It's extremely sloppy journalism at best, featuring high shock value GIFs and pretty much nothing else. In this day an age everyone has a smartphone...you're telling me those are the only pictures and videos anyone has got?
Then considering that the story regarding Susan Rice was breaking about illegally spying on Trump, and then all of a sudden this happens...
Sorry, I don't buy it, way too many red flags going up...
Oh for the love of God. Another god poster gone loopy after years in South East Asia. What is it about being in this part of the world that makes people so prone to nonsense conspiracy theories?
that is one of the main reasons i loved being out here, im completely free of all the media bullshit apart from what i see on facebook every now and again or the odd time on here
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Tear gas is internationally banned in warfare ,yet the US police use it on their civilian population routinely.
Nice one Jamie ,ha ha like it.
Jamie_Lambo wrote:tbh i was far more of a conspiracy theorist when i lived back in England and was bombarded with (false) news and media every dayThis Charming Man wrote:AE86 wrote:As of now, I'm not even convinced that chemical weapons were involved. The video featured on the NY Times shows men without hazmat suits, masks or even gloves washing down a supposed victim...those men would be dead in 2 minutes. It's extremely sloppy journalism at best, featuring high shock value GIFs and pretty much nothing else. In this day an age everyone has a smartphone...you're telling me those are the only pictures and videos anyone has got?
Then considering that the story regarding Susan Rice was breaking about illegally spying on Trump, and then all of a sudden this happens...
Sorry, I don't buy it, way too many red flags going up...
Oh for the love of God. Another god poster gone loopy after years in South East Asia. What is it about being in this part of the world that makes people so prone to nonsense conspiracy theories?
that is one of the main reasons i loved being out here, im completely free of all the media bullshit apart from what i see on facebook every now and again or the odd time on here
Nice one Jamie ,ha ha like it.
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