And this guy is President FFSricecakes wrote:TRUMP: ‘THIS ISN’T A GUNS SITUATION’
US President Donald Trump, currently in Japan, said the gunman was suffering from mental health problems. “Mental health is your problem here,” Mr Trump said during a news conference Monday in Tokyo with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. “This isn’t a guns situation.”
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Yeah that's right you utter fucktard...the guy used bananas to kill them all.
'At least 27 people killed' at a Texas church and multiple people injured
Happy to have a wager that nothing will happen after the next massacre either - if Sandy Hook wasn't enough to make change, nothing is.Hanno wrote:... and nothing happening until the next massacre.
Sadly mother nature isn't helping either - Birth rate: 13.2, Mortality rate 8.4 (per 1,000) - seems Team USA is still providing enough ammunition, no pun intended, for this to continue for a good while yet. If it were a birth rate/mortality rate like Monaco you could probably put a date on when it would end naturally as there would literally be nobody left to shoot & the problem finally solved - without any NRA twats having to give up their guns. I'm guessing last man standing would top himself in time old "angry white guy" shooter style, whilst cursing the evil British empire with a "You'll never take my guns while I'm alive!" speech.
Meum est propositum in taberna mori,
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
ut sint Guinness proxima morientis ori.
tunc cantabunt letius angelorum chori:
"Sit Deus propitius huic potatori."
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Senses?Miguelito wrote:What will it take for Americans to come to their senses
They have senses?
Did you enjoy Optimism 401?
This shooter had a beard. The guy running over people in a truck last week has a beard. Ban beards too.
"The final straw actually involved my mortal enemy vladimir, who you may or may not know is an insufferable, overposting asshat."
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lightweight should have had a bazooka, that way he could have dealt with those lovely, lovely man that chased him off with their lawfully obtained forearms.
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Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
Why are the gods such vicious cunts?
Where is the god of tits and wine?
No it means,Kuz wrote:
Toasters don't toast toast, people toast toast.
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Well this took the predictable 48 hours to be said:
"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) views the deadliest mass shooting in his state’s history as evidence that more church parishioners should carry guns for self-protection."
HuffPost
"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) views the deadliest mass shooting in his state’s history as evidence that more church parishioners should carry guns for self-protection."
HuffPost
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I don't have any strong opinions on guns or Islam. Neither play any significant role in my life, or the lives of those around me, so why should I care? But what is fascinating to me is how logically contradictory the position of people on either sides of this argument are.
The logical position, is that you either believe the state should be able to impinge on the rights of a majority in the name of public safety because of the behaviour of a minority, or you don't.
But yes, I hear you say. Islam is a religion and a guns are a constitutional right. Religion trumps constitutional rights surely? (unless you're white Christian of course, in which case it's evil) Really.... So I guess secularism wasn't a good thing then...?
But Muslims are people and guns are objects. Muslims are people as are gun owners. A gun is an object, as is the Quran. Whatever significance your brain places on either object is your own personal perception and interpretation.
The fact is, the distinction is irrelevant as both groups are highly delusional. One group believes that a "well armed militia" can overthrow the US military complex should it one day (not said with a hint of irony) become tyrannical. The other group think we should all follow to the letter a book that written 1400 years by a man called Mohammed who had the content directly dictated to him by God.
Now reread that sentence and replace "guns" with "Islam". So one group believes that we should be able to impinge on the rights of the majority in the name of public safety, because of the actions of a minority. And, the other groups also believes that we should be able to impinge on the rights of the majority in the name of public safety, because of the actions of a minority.The same people that are so defensive of [Islam], are the same people that are so strongly apposed to [guns]
The logical position, is that you either believe the state should be able to impinge on the rights of a majority in the name of public safety because of the behaviour of a minority, or you don't.
But yes, I hear you say. Islam is a religion and a guns are a constitutional right. Religion trumps constitutional rights surely? (unless you're white Christian of course, in which case it's evil) Really.... So I guess secularism wasn't a good thing then...?
But Muslims are people and guns are objects. Muslims are people as are gun owners. A gun is an object, as is the Quran. Whatever significance your brain places on either object is your own personal perception and interpretation.
The fact is, the distinction is irrelevant as both groups are highly delusional. One group believes that a "well armed militia" can overthrow the US military complex should it one day (not said with a hint of irony) become tyrannical. The other group think we should all follow to the letter a book that written 1400 years by a man called Mohammed who had the content directly dictated to him by God.
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Whether it's the constitution or the Quran. Both groups place great value on a document written hundreds of years ago by men with big beards.
Both guns and the Quran are very dangerous when placed in the hands of the wrong people. Perhaps we should only allow the [Quran/guns] to be issued to people over the age of 18 after a thorough background check. Or maybe completely ban [the Quran / guns]. Or perhaps we should only allow access to low powered firearms or the Penguin children's illustrated edition of the Quran?
Both guns and the Quran are very dangerous when placed in the hands of the wrong people. Perhaps we should only allow the [Quran/guns] to be issued to people over the age of 18 after a thorough background check. Or maybe completely ban [the Quran / guns]. Or perhaps we should only allow access to low powered firearms or the Penguin children's illustrated edition of the Quran?
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I also think part of the reason nothing will happen with gun control right now is that the huge financial institutions - the lobbyists, the fund raisers etc, and the top few percent who pay a large percentage of the tax revenues are the ones who really control legislation and the law makers.
And with the push for tax cuts it's clear these same people want nothing to derail the fragile recovery since the GFC, and trip up corporate America in any way.
Maybe in a way inequality go's hand in hand with loose gun control?
And with the push for tax cuts it's clear these same people want nothing to derail the fragile recovery since the GFC, and trip up corporate America in any way.
Maybe in a way inequality go's hand in hand with loose gun control?
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You always hear how powerful the gun lobby is, etc, but they actually have a very small budget. They will aggressively attack their own when they vote for gun control, but surely Bloomberg's own organization, and the liberal Hollywood elite alone, could outspend the NRA quite easily.spitthedog wrote:I also think part of the reason nothing will happen with gun control right now is that the huge financial institutions - the lobbyists, the fund raisers etc, and the top few percent who pay a large percentage of the tax revenues are the ones who really control legislation and the law makers.
And with the push for tax cuts it's clear these same people want nothing to derail the fragile recovery since the GFC, and trip up corporate America in any way.
Maybe in a way inequality go's hand in hand with loose gun control?
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The simple answer must be that there isn’t the appetite for change.Miguelito wrote:You always hear how powerful the gun lobby is, etc, but they actually have a very small budget. They will aggressively attack their own when they vote for gun control, but surely Bloomberg's own organization, and the liberal Hollywood elite alone, could outspend the NRA quite easily.spitthedog wrote:I also think part of the reason nothing will happen with gun control right now is that the huge financial institutions - the lobbyists, the fund raisers etc, and the top few percent who pay a large percentage of the tax revenues are the ones who really control legislation and the law makers.
And with the push for tax cuts it's clear these same people want nothing to derail the fragile recovery since the GFC, and trip up corporate America in any way.
Maybe in a way inequality go's hand in hand with loose gun control?
We (non-yanks) see the extreme militia types and think they are the only ones in favour of guns and think moderate people must see sense.
Those ‘moderates’ have to be as much to blame.
Seemingly, life is cheap for Americans.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/us/t ... hurch.htmlthe Air Force admitted on Monday that it had failed to enter the man’s domestic violence court-martial into a federal database that could have blocked him from buying the rifle he used to kill 26 people.
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